Should Commanders Rescind Franchise Tag On Kirk Cousins?

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Daillest88

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I wouldn't say he did nothing for us. Did he earn his $7 million per season....probably not. But come on man, let's not act like this was a blockbuster Brandon Carr contract.

it wasn't. but still a big deal for a guy who was 32 years old by time the season started.
 

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it wasn't. but still a big deal for a guy who was 32 years old by time the season started.

We will just agree to disagree. We have 3-4 DE's and OLB's making $4 million more in 1 year than Hatcher did for 2 years. DLine contracts have been ludicrous the last few years and 2 year $14 million.....
 

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This is the first time he's considered paying age a huge sum of money? Well then, you're probably good. I think things are definitely changing in WAS.

Cousins timed the market perfectly. The Sk*ns were smart to franchise him, but they're definitely overpaying for a year for the opportunity to see if he can play consistently. My guess is he plays well enough that you can't let him walk, but not well enough to justify the big contract he's going to get because he's the right combination of age and ability. They were smart to handcuff the RGIII trade, at least.

I could definitely see that happening with Cousins, although I hope he builds off last season of course.

McCloughan has been consistent in stating his philosophy is renting free agents, but building the team through the draft. And he will be only dole out big money contracts for players who he thinks are proven. I wouldn't have signed Norman to that contract, not because I don't think he's worth the money, it's because I'm concerned whether we'll be able to retain Jordan Reed next year.
 

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no Snyder is not jerry jones.. hes much worse. this is mccloughans 2nd year.. had a feeling they would go to there old ways sooner or later.. does he even fit in the Commanders scheme?

Does one contract signal a team going back to their old ways? Ever since Bruce Allen was hired as Team President, this team has not engaged in the type of buffonery we saw from the Giants GM. The signing of Desean and Norman were about taking advantage of premier talent at a great time. If Norman was available in March, McCloughan likely wouldn't have even made an offer. But with the draft a week away, and most teams already used up the cap space they'd designed for free agents, McCloughan could go after Norman without too many suitors driving the price up.

As far as scheme goes, Carolina plays a lot of Cover 3 and so does DC Joe Barry.
 

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I know what he was brought in for, I saw what he did in a 3-4 for us.. I also know he was over 30.. paying an aging lineman an average 7 million per year isn't smart.. especially having a breakout year during contract year.. lol he pretty much did nothing for you guys..

His 2014 season was pretty good, and his 2015 year was just average. His contract never prevented us from attaining any of the talent we wanted. Not really that big of a deal.
 

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I thought once Kirk Cousins signed the contract it was a done deal. The money is guaranteed. It cannot be rescinded by the Commanders without Cousins' approval and why would he give up the guaranteed money?
 

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Does one contract signal a team going back to their old ways? Ever since Bruce Allen was hired as Team President, this team has not engaged in the type of buffonery we saw from the Giants GM. The signing of Desean and Norman were about taking advantage of premier talent at a great time. If Norman was available in March, McCloughan likely wouldn't have even made an offer. But with the draft a week away, and most teams already used up the cap space they'd designed for free agents, McCloughan could go after Norman without too many suitors driving the price up.

As far as scheme goes, Carolina plays a lot of Cover 3 and so does DC Joe Barry.

He fits your scheme then..BUT he doesn't have half the supporting cast he had in carolina.. And that contract is crazy.. This is a move Danny boy would of done also and this is what you Commander fans were raving about when you signed your GM in hopes he doesn't make these moves. You guys were in the perfect spot in the draft to get a good corner.. You guys also need a DT right? One of the deepest drafts ever at DT.. I'm glad we don't go down this road anymore
 

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The Skins fell in love with a player that dominated a Dez Bryant that was 50% healthy and think they found their answer to counter Bryant.
 

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The Skins fell in love with a player that dominated a Dez Bryant that was 50% healthy and think they found their answer to counter Bryant.

Well considering how an old deangelo Hall and a once rookie brashaud breeland have both shut Dez down before, I don't think McCloughan was even thinking about Dez when he signed him. Most likely OBJ and the other WRs we wil face this season.
 

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Well considering how an old deangelo Hall and a once rookie brashaud breeland have both shut Dez down before, I don't think McCloughan was even thinking about Dez when he signed him. Most likely OBJ and the other WRs we wil face this season.

Wrong. Dez is one if the most dominating WR in the league. Believe me. He was a huge factor in the decision to sign Norman. Maybe the biggest.
 

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Well considering how an old deangelo Hall and a once rookie brashaud breeland have both shut Dez down before, I don't think McCloughan was even thinking about Dez when he signed him. Most likely OBJ and the other WRs we wil face this season.

Dez Bryant's has had big games vs the skins..
 

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Dez Bryant's has had big games vs the skins..

Yeah, two. Since 2010. Tell me how that would make McCloughan think about Dez while trying to sign Norman? Meanwhile, the best we've done against OBJ is hold him to 7 rec for 79 yards and a TD. The other two games he was 140+ yards and TDs. Yeah, the fact that Norman is in OBJ's head and he's killed us consistently was a bigger concern than Dez.
 

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Yeah, two. Since 2010. Tell me how that would make McCloughan think about Dez while trying to sign Norman? Meanwhile, the best we've done against OBJ is hold him to 7 rec for 79 yards and a TD. The other two games he was 140+ yards and TDs. Yeah, the fact that Norman is in OBJ's head and he's killed us consistently was a bigger concern than Dez.

That's a game I'm sure obj will learn from lol.. He still had a good game against Norman.. He even burnt him from what would of been an 80 yard TD.. Yea I'm also sure he is worried about dez lol. Who wouldn't be? His last big game against y'all was just in 2014 week 17, 4 catchs 99 yards 2 tds..
 

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Obviously you don't understand how contracts work. It was actually a 4 year $27.5 million dollar contract but in all reality it was a 2 year $14 million dollar contract. Yeah man, $14 million for 2 years is just so crazy for a guy coming off an 11 sack season. Nice try.

Yes he had an 11 sack season playing DT in a 4-3 defense. And before that he had 16 sacks in 7 years (his best season being 4.5 sacks) playing end in a 3-4. On top of that, he turned 32 before his first season ever started with the Skins.

The quintessential one year wonder who was already on the wrong side of 30 and whos only season with more than 4.5 sacks came from a different defensive alignment than the Commanders use. If you were using him as a 3 tech like Dallas did the season he had those 11 sacks you may have a point. But you didn't, you moved him back to a position where he averaged 2.25 sacks a year for 7 years. You can sugar coat it all you want but 4/27 or 2/14 was a horrible contract given all that easy to gather information.

One 11 sack season was such a small part of that of details of that signing but... Nice try.
 
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All i sense is a bunch of jealousy in this thread...None of the Commanders CB's are worried about Dez..Breeland shut him down his rookie year..Than Dallas had to move Dez to the opposite side of Breeland to have any impact..Your receiving corps as a whole is complete garbage..Why do you think Romo holds the ball so long and gets sacked?
 
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