Should the quarterback position be devalued?

[leeblair]

With the NFL going overboard to protect quarterbacks, today's quarterbacks don't have to do as much as quarterbacks in the past did.
Troy Aikman suffered concussions from the hits he took while making big plays for the Cowboys, as did many quarterbacks back in the early nineties and before.
Today the quarterbacks are basically playing two hand touch. Any contact with them more than that usually results in a huge penalty and sometimes a fine.
With the quarterback position being so much easier to play, shouldn't their position be devalued , giving teams more money to spread around to guys who actually do the heavy hitting?

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

It already is being devalued by about 10% of the posters here.

 

[KJJ]

With the NFL going overboard to protect quarterbacks, today's quarterbacks don't have to do as much as quarterbacks in the past did.
Troy Aikman suffered concussions from the hits he took while making big plays for the Cowboys, as did many quarterbacks back in the early nineties and before.
Today the quarterbacks are basically playing two hand touch. Any contact with them more than that usually results in a huge penalty and sometimes a fine.
With the quarterback position being so much easier to play, shouldn't their position be devalued , giving teams more money to spread around to guys who actually do the heavy hitting?

You continue to show you have zero clue about NFL football. To say QBs are being devalued is hilarious. QBs have to domore these days than they ever did decades ago. It’s a passing league and everything revolves around the QB. There’s a reason QB salaries continue to skyrocket. Many of the QBs today are dual threat QBs who put up passing and rushing yards. They account for a high percentage of their teams offense. QB’s today throw the ball more than they ever did decades ago because RB’s have been devalued. You score with the passing game. Just because the rules protect QBs more these days than they did years ago doesn’t mean they’re not doing as much. You need to start getting with the program.

 

[jazzcat22]

QB is still the most important position on any football team. Regardless of the rule changes.

They are the only player that handles the ball on every offensive snap of the game. Unless a wild cat type play obviously.

This is where his decisions take note over any other player. Calls the plays, audibles, RPO's. Then reading a defense to make those decisions as well, where to throw the ball.

So no, it should not be devalued. I get the question, because the contracts have exploded, and will continue that way.
However, the play is still the same as it always has been for the basics.

 

[ChuckA1]

You continue to show you have zero clue about NFL football. To say QBs are being devalued is hilarious. QBs have to do a lot more these days than they did decades ago. It’s a passing league and everything revolves around the QB. There’s a reason QB salaries continue to skyrocket. Many of the QBs today are dual threat QBs who put up passing and rushing yards. QB’s today throw the ball more than they ever did decades ago because RB’s have been devalued. You score with the passing game. Just because the rules protect QBs more these days than they did years ago doesn’t mean they’re not doing as much. You need to start getting with the program.

There were always "passing" teams throughout the history of the NFL. And, there were always dual threat QB's, Warren Moon and Steve Young come to mind. The QB's of old did the same stuff as today with the potential of getting creamed. Maybe you need to start getting with the program.

 

[Nav22]

With the NFL going overboard to protect quarterbacks, today's quarterbacks don't have to do as much as quarterbacks in the past did.
Troy Aikman suffered concussions from the hits he took while making big plays for the Cowboys, as did many quarterbacks back in the early nineties and before.
Today the quarterbacks are basically playing two hand touch. Any contact with them more than that usually results in a huge penalty and sometimes a fine.
With the quarterback position being so much easier to play, shouldn't their position be devalued , giving teams more money to spread around to guys who actually do the heavy hitting?

QBs "don't have to do as much"...., because they don't take huge hits like they did in the '90s?

You say this with a straight face and expect to be taken seriously?


How many QBs passed for 4,000 yards last season? How many times did Aikman do that in his career?

Embarrassing take.

 

[DallasEast]

Well, the owners have never thought of this idea. The players union can breathe a sigh of relief when the next collective bargaining agreement is negotiated in 2031.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

No, it’s the opposite. With how QBs are coddled, they have a much bigger impact on the result of games… making their value higher now than ever.

 

[fivetwos]

The only way to devalue the position is to have more than 32 capable QBs available at one time.

Guys being forced to play before they are ready due to the current system makes that unlikely.

People are crying for a QB cap. I’d rather see an agreed upon redshirt situation which allows teams to let them sit without risking losing them near the same time they are finally ready.

 

[LonnieElam]

All the rules regarding injury are overboard. These players are making millions, and they know what they signed up for.

 

[KJJ]

There were always "passing" teams throughout the history of the NFL. And, there were always dual threat QB's, Warren Moon and Steve Young come to mind. The QB's of old did the same stuff as today with the potential of getting creamed. Maybe you need to start getting with the program.

I’m with the program but from reading your post you’re another fan who’s not. The QBs of yesteryear never had to do as much as the QBs routinely have to do today. Even the QBs you mentioned never threw the ball near as much as the QBs today and the passing numbers back that up. Warren Moon played 17 years in the NFL and had only four seasons that were comparable to the passing yards we see from QBs today. 4200-4500 passing yards are common for QBs today. Steve Young only had a couple of 4000 yard seasons during his career. His most productive passing season was just over 4100 yards. That’s routine for a lot of QBs today. There were a few dual threat QBs during the 80s and 90s such as Steve Young and Randall Cunningham, but most of the QBs today can run, providing a dual threat. Justin Fields and Lamar Jackson have had 200 yard rushing games, which was unheard of decades ago for QBs.

 

[Adreme]

There were always "passing" teams throughout the history of the NFL. And, there were always dual threat QB's, Warren Moon and Steve Young come to mind. The QB's of old did the same stuff as today with the potential of getting creamed. Maybe you need to start getting with the program.

They did stuff but not nearly as well. The accuracy demanded of the position is higher. Passing attacks are far more complex than they have ever been. Steve Young as a runner was an exception and now you want QBs with that skill set.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

It already is being devalued by about 10% of the posters here.

And devalued by 100% of the Dallas Cowboys owners/GMs

 

[Blitzen]

With the NFL going overboard to protect quarterbacks, today's quarterbacks don't have to do as much as quarterbacks in the past did.
Troy Aikman suffered concussions from the hits he took while making big plays for the Cowboys, as did many quarterbacks back in the early nineties and before.
Today the quarterbacks are basically playing two hand touch. Any contact with them more than that usually results in a huge penalty and sometimes a fine.
With the quarterback position being so much easier to play, shouldn't their position be devalued , giving teams more money to spread around to guys who actually do the heavy hitting?

The game has changed so much, but in my opinion the biggest change for the QB position is how much officials focus on illegal contact and pass interference. Those calls have become such enormous game changers with regards to how the game is so much more pass heavy, and running the ball is devalued in regards to how to get points.

It is much more difficult to build a high end defense now because of how teams must account for these rule changes and how pre snap motion can affect the way a defense adjusts to actual game speed. There are fewer contested passes now overall. Lots of wide open receivers-and definitely more when the defense is not elite. Even though there are more exotic coverage schemes, the problem that plagues a modern defense is how easy teams figure out the weakest link and exploit it in a variety of ways.

Teams that are the best and most adaptable have high end rushing attacks and great offensive lines-but they also have at least 1-2 high end receiving weapons. Detroit is providing Goff with an offense that is reminiscent of the Dallas 2016 offense-though with multiple running backs. They did it using high picks on linemen, and parlayed the Rams’ picks into building the line of scrimmage. When you have elite line play, the QB is more easily replaced though teams don’t want too much turnover when the SB seems so close.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

There is talk of changing salary cap to account for QB salaries, so teams CAN keep building the team around him

 

[KJJ]

Maybe you need to start getting with the program.

The OP claimed QBs are being devalued. Do you agree with that? He seems to think because the rules are protecting QBs from being hit as violently that they’re not having to do as much.

 

[Blitzen]

They did stuff but not nearly as well. The accuracy demanded of the position is higher. Passing attacks are far more complex than they have ever been. Steve Young as a runner was an exception and now you want QBs with that skill set.

No the passing game requires less accurate ball placement than ever. Receivers can run their routes mostly unimpeded now. Accuracy and timing and ball placement were paramount in earlier generations where secondary could mug the receiver before the ball was in the air.

 

[zrinkill]

With the NFL going overboard to protect quarterbacks, today's quarterbacks don't have to do as much as quarterbacks in the past did.

 

[Adreme]

No the passing game requires less accurate ball placement than ever. Receivers can run their routes mostly unimpeded now. Accuracy and timing and ball placement were paramount in earlier generations where secondary could mug the receiver before the ball was in the air.

Not even a little accurate. They took out hand fighting on both sides (as a lot of what Jerry Rice did in his prime would be considered OPI today), but that is not what boosted the required accuracy. The reason what defines an accurate QB has changed from 60% to 70% and that being a gunslinger is now out of style is all because of evolutions of how to play QB. Before you could have a canon of an arm throw it 40 yards and trust your guy to come down with it or break it up. It did not have to be that accurate as your guy could adjust in the air. Now the NFL is all about the precise 10-15 yard throws, even on the move. I put a lot of this on Payton and what he did with Brees because a lot of teams saw that and realized that if they can have their QB be more accurate, turn the ball over less, then they can lean on a bunch of medium throws and methodically drive down the field.

The removal of hand fighting and pushing from both sides really just meant that now the QB has to be able to accurately place the ball because there is a lot less room for your WR to fix your error.

 

[Coogiguy03]

League needs to take a stance on how much they make!! Pretty soon the Sanders kid or someone else will make 100 million a year