Should we trade Leary in the offseason

[Kaiser]

On a team where they run the ball significantly more than they pass it and every scout from Egypt to the Moon agreed he would be better suited inside. He is not an NFL offensive tackle. He doesn't have the leg kick or the lateral quickness. He would get eaten alive.

In other words, you made it up.

I'm not going to spend time on it but the first link when you google "La'el Collins Scouting Report" is the NFL.com link, It ends with this:

BOTTOM LINE
Brawling right tackle or guard prospect in the NFL who has had a level of success in hyper-competitive SEC West.

 

[texbumthelife]

I think DE's in the NFL would run right around him. He has had trouble with DT's that flash across him quickly and that is a much more confined space where he has help.

Maybe he wouldn't be a disaster, that might have been hyperbole, as I forgot how anal the armchair scouts around here are, but he is an elite offensive guard talent. I would rather have him there and not create another hole by moving him to RT. You don't create one hole to fill another, particularly when that player has elite skills for the position he is in.

I guess the fact that the Dallas coaches didn't have him practice a single snap at tackle in camp is all I really need to cite, but I'm sure you know more than them too.

 

[lostar2009]

Tender him. If someone bits ship him out but he would be good for depth. Possible RT candidate?

 

[Kaiser]

Maybe he wouldn't be a disaster, that might have been hyperbole, as I forgot how anal the armchair scouts around here are,

If you post a stupid opinion and get called on it, it doesn't make anyone else anal retentive. It just means you make a stupid statement that was factually wrong.

 

[Kaiser]

I guess the fact that the Dallas coaches didn't have him practice a single snap at tackle in camp is all I really need to cite, but I'm sure you know more than them too.

Playing him only at OG could mean a lot of things. It could mean that Leary's health is worse than the public knew but the team saw it coming.

It could also mean Dallas decided early on that LG was the easiest transition for Collins as a rookie. OL is the hardest position to play as a rookie in the NFL and when Dallas drafted Tyron Smith, they played him at RT his rookie year because that was the position he was used to playing in college at USC. They moved him to LT in his second year - and I'm sure someone on this board back then predicted that would be a disaster

 

[AzorAhai]

I think DE's in the NFL would run right around him. He has had trouble with DT's that flash across him quickly and that is a much more confined space where he has help.

Maybe he wouldn't be a disaster, that might have been hyperbole, as I forgot how anal the armchair scouts around here are, but he is an elite offensive guard talent. I would rather have him there and not create another hole by moving him to RT. You don't create one hole to fill another, particularly when that player has elite skills for the position he is in.

I guess the fact that the Dallas coaches didn't have him practice a single snap at tackle in camp is all I really need to cite, but I'm sure you know more than them too.

I thought they did have him practice a little at RT whwn Free was out early in camp? Maybe it was during OTAs. I don't know if he can play outside or not. When I was doing my armchair scouting before the draft I thought he could be a good RT, but elite OG and thats where I would play him. I've seen nothing to change my mind. I'm not saying he can't play RT, but unless they know he can, leave him be.

 

[mattjames2010]

Collins played LT at LSU at a high level for two seasons. How exactly would him playing RT be a disaster?

Cool, as did Martin. Collins is a Guard in the NFL.

They had him at RT at one point in camp, he didn't impress, he's impressing at guard. Nothing about him says he's a starting RT in this league.

You don't take someone who has a ceiling to become elite at one position and move him to a position where he'd only be average to above average. Just look for a dang RT in free agency or the draft.

 

[mattjames2010]

Playing him only at OG could mean a lot of things. It could mean that Leary's health is worse than the public knew but the team saw it coming.

It could also mean Dallas decided early on that LG was the easiest transition for Collins as a rookie. OL is the hardest position to play as a rookie in the NFL and when Dallas drafted Tyron Smith, they played him at RT his rookie year because that was the position he was used to playing in college at USC. They moved him to LT in his second year - and I'm sure someone on this board back then predicted that would be a disaster

What?

 

[Kaiser]

They had him at RT at one point in camp, he didn't impress,.

Do you have a link or is this more of that hyperbole stuff I've been hearing about.

 

[speedkilz88]

If he improves his technique he has the athletic ability to play RT.

 

[The Natural]

If you can get something for him, yea

 

[Wood]

He is going to be a back up next year. He will cost the amount of at least a 2nd round tender. He can probably get a mid round pick back in trade.

Do you think we should trade him in the off season

He might be your starter next year. I would not trade him.

 

[mattjames2010]

Do you have a link or is this more of that hyperbole stuff I've been hearing about.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/2...tarting-out-right-tackle-eager-get-acclimated

I'm not going to sift through all the Broaddus reports and the find the one where he talked about Collins struggles at RT. But Collins is a guard in the NFL and that's where he'll be staying unless there is an emergency.

 

[IrishAnto]

He is going to be a back up next year. He will cost the amount of at least a 2nd round tender. He can probably get a mid round pick back in trade.

Do you think we should trade him in the off season

Keep him.

We need all the decent players we can lay our hands on.

 

[Fredd]

if it ain't broke....

...now, back on topic, it would be tough to move leary as teams would be "leery" of his knee, so not sure what pick could be had an if it is worth creating another hole on the team, albeit for one season

 

[FaSho]

Moving Collins to right tackle would be an absolute disaster. I can't even comprehend anyone thinking that's a good idea. He is perfectly suited to play guard and play it at a high level for a long time. Leave him where he is.

THANK YOU.

 

[Jarv]

Tender him. If someone bits ship him out but he would be good for depth. Possible RT candidate?

I agree, I was thinking the 2nd round tender.

 

[conner01]

He is on a one year deal, but will be a RFA.
So if we lose him to FA if tendered and offer, we will get a draft pick, or picks.
So a trade would only happen if he signs his tender I believe.

A player on a one year tender who was passed up by every team in the draft because of fears of his knee doesn't seem to me to be a guy who will bring much. So the question becomes is that late round pick worth more than the depth

 

[Future]

This is probably Bernadeau's last year on the team. Leary would be great depth if he can learn the C position, too.

I think that would be ideal, but, all things considered, I bet Bern is back next year at a much cheaper rate than Leary and we get the comp/RFA pick.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I would LOVE to start him at LG or RG and move whichever out to RT and replace Doug Free.

The more he plays and the bigger deal he gets the better the compensation when he leaves. Leary is a better OG when healthy than what we're getting from Free at tackle. He requires constant help right now.

That's my general feeling as well.

The only thing for me is I was disappointed how he looked this year. I know he had a groin injury, but the play wasn't very inspiring at all.





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