SI.com Truth & Rumor: Dallas shipping off J. Jones

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BouncingCheese;1460405 said:
NO WAY are Maroney and Marion Barber in the same talent level as each other. I don't even need to discuss thier prospect profiles, you will see who is more talented http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2005/barber_marion
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2006/maroney_laurence

Maroney is more explosive, can take the ball to the outside as well as inside, is a decent if not semi-polished reciever, and overall a better athlete. Maroney was also able to hold down the starting role of setback in Minn(showing his durability, something the coaching staff in Dallas will be questioning this year still in regards to MBIII), something MBIII was never able to do during his tenure. Barber is talented, but he plays like mauler, even though he obviously has the physique better suited as a cutback dude. Finally, if they were even identical, they would have gone during similar picks, not Maroney in the 1st round, and MBIII in the fourth.

Barber cannot take it to the house like JJ, which is the only reason why we even put JJ back there. I think we will not move JJ, which is wise, considering I think Jerrah knows the window to do damage in the playoffs is now, not in a few years when we draft and groom a setback for the future.

We are stuck with Julius. Marion Barber is what he is, a grinder who can't move laterally. get over it

I love these world according to Garp posts................

Get over what? I stated my opinion, which I still stand by. Those stats hold as much value to me as a bucket full of holes. What, exactly, are they supposed to tell me? I see the same styles when I watch them play. Marion can and has shown the ability to take the ball to the outside.
Can't move laterally..........:lmao:
He can also catch the ball which is clearly stated in your link. Thanks for the JJ update. I would have never noticed had you not enlightened me. You're a smart one, you.
 

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eduncan22;1461486 said:
Why would we want to trade one of our young stars for a draft pick?

....must be the off-season.


I hope he becomes a "star" if he stays here, but so far "mediocre" should be his middle name.
 

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Seven;1461985 said:
I love these world according to Garp posts................

Get over what? I stated my opinion, which I still stand by. Those stats hold as much value to me as a bucket full of holes. What, exactly, are they supposed to tell me? I see the same styles when I watch them play. Marion can and has shown the ability to take the ball to the outside.
Can't move laterally..........:lmao:
He can also catch the ball which is clearly stated in your link. Thanks for the JJ update. I would have never noticed had you not enlightened me. You're a smart one, you.

Stay by your ignorant opinion, Seven. It is irrelevant to me. If anyone agreed with you, (such as real GM's who actually draft players) Barber would have been drafted just as high as Maroney. If you were actually watching games (which I highly doubt) you would notice Maroney is the shiftier, faster back. When did you ever see Barber run to the outside on a sweep or counter, if at all, effectively? Thought so. Maroney can take it to the outside as well as inside. Because of this, he is bieng groomed to be the starting setback for the Pats, while Barber is BEHIND JJ of all people;come to think of it I wonder if you've ever watched any footbal games rather than troll forums! Ignorant people like you might confuse Barber with Maroney because of the braids!:lmao2: So, yeah. "Get over" yourself.
 

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Bleu Star;1461694 said:
This resurrection should give us a nice 20 page long thread leading up to the draft.

Funny stuff, and true. LOL
 

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BouncingCheese;1462336 said:
Stay by your ignorant opinion, Seven. It is irrelevant to me. If anyone agreed with you, (such as real GM's who actually draft players) Barber would have been drafted just as high as Maroney. If you were actually watching games (which I highly doubt) you would notice Maroney is the shiftier, faster back. When did you ever see Barber run to the outside on a sweep or counter, if at all, effectively? Thought so. Maroney can take it to the outside as well as inside. Because of this, he is bieng groomed to be the starting setback for the Pats, while Barber is BEHIND JJ of all people;come to think of it I wonder if you've ever watched any footbal games rather than troll forums! Ignorant people like you might confuse Barber with Maroney because of the braids!:lmao2: So, yeah. "Get over" yourself.



What's next? Your dad could beat up my dad? I'm rubber you're glue? Raise your standards a little you may get an intelligent response. You seem to want to incite rather than debate. Go ahead and take your dolls and go home because nobody wants to play what you what to play.:jerk:


Looks like I've stumbled into Hos' version of Banned AND Nors all rolled into one. Lucky me.
 

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BouncingCheese;1461832 said:
Yeah, I remember that 40 time, it was on a fast track . I don't count those. with pads/on grass, it was about 4.5.( For example, Anthony Gonzalez had a blazing speed on the fast track, but on grass, it is almost pedestrian comparatively). Anyways, its irrelevant anymore. Peterson won't be availible to us. I think we should try to keep JJ so we can have two vets in the backfield, regardless of JJ's/Barbers' limitations. Maybe if San Diego does not franchise Turner, we will pick him up in next offseason. ( I don't really want him, but there really isn't a whole lot of other setbacks to choose from worth bank IMO.


That just sounds stupid. So you know everyone's 40 time with and without pads, and you have determined that Tomlinson is slower than Peterson with pads on???? Suuuuuuuuure.

Just admit it...you didn't know Tomlinson's 40 time and you were talking out of your ***.
 

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If a scout wrote this on Jones while he was in college maybe we should look into hiring him to scout talent for the Cowboys! LOL :laugh2:

From NFL.com





Prospect Profiles
Julius Jones
Position: Running Back Julius Jones
College: Notre Dame
Height: 5-9
Weight: 217
Hometown: Big Stone Gap, Va.

Analysis | Agility | High School | Personal
OVERVIEW
Highly respected athlete who returned to the team with a banner senior campaign after sitting out the 2002 campaign due to academic ineligibility … Earned All-America mention as a senior, joining his brother, Thomas, who earned All-America honors as a senior in 1999 while leading Virginia in rushing with 1,798 yards (163.45 per game to rank third nationally) that set an Atlantic Coast Conference record. Thomas was the sixth pick in first round of 2000 National Football League draft by the Arizona Cardinals, played for Tampa Bay in 2003 and recently signed with the Chicago Bears … Julius started 17 of 45 games for the Irish, carrying 634 times for 3,018 yards (4.8 avg.) and 26 touchdowns, joining Vagas Ferguson (3,472, 1976-79), Allen Pinkett (4,131, 1982-85) and Autry Denson (4,318, 1995-98) as the only players in school history to gain over 3,000 yards rushing in a career … His 634 rushing attempts rank fourth in school annals … Added 250 yards and a score on 28 catches and 426 yards with a touchdown on 38 punt returns (11.2 avg.) … Also had 72 kickoff returns for 1,678 yards (23.3 avg.) and a score, breaking the old Irish all-time record of 1,613 yards by Tim Brown (1984-87) … His total kick return yards of 2,104 broke Brown's previous school record of 2,089 … His 5,372 all-purpose yards topped the old Notre Dame all-time record of 5,327 by Denson.
ANALYSIS
Positives: Has an athletic, cut body with well-defined upper- and lower-frame muscles … Has quick feet and sudden moves coming out of his stance … Fast-twitched through the holes, showing the vision to pick and slide as he finds the rush lanes … His burst allows him to squeeze through holes, as he stays at the proper pad level to gain leverage … Has enough power to be adequate running inside … Has the body control to turn the corner, showing good hip swerve to elude and get up field … Has the vision to read blocks in space … Effective on screen passes, but has a small window to catch … Shows a good feel for the underneath pass … Willing blocker with face-up ability, good toughness and good anchor to sustain … Can make the big play if given protection until he hits the perimeter … Good at getting his shoulders square to get up field … Patient runner who uses his blocks well … His balance and ability to spot the small seams makes him effective as a returner.

Negatives: Not really a self-motivated player and does not take well to hard coaching … Is just a little too lazy digesting the playbook … Has adequate power, but not enough to take on defenders one-on-one … Not mentally tough, letting minor injuries linger … Just used on screens, as he is a marginal route runner who looks late for the ball … Needs to protect the ball better and show better anticipation for contact … Will sometimes run up the back of the offensive lineman, but has enough pick-and-slide agility to gain yards inside … Prone to go down from the initial tackle, especially when defenders attack his feet … Has good foot quickness and change-of-direction agility, but is not sudden off cuts, gathering himself before accelerating.
AGILITY TESTS
4.47 in the 40-yard dash … 345-pound bench press … Bench presses 225 pounds 16 times … 37-inch vertical jump … 4.16 20-yard shuttle … 31 1/8-inch arm length … 9¼-inch hands … Right-handed … Wears contacts.
HIGH SCHOOL
Attended Powell Valley (Big Stone Gap, Va.) High, playing for coach Phil Robbins … Honorable mention USA Today All-American, listed No. 88 nationally on the Chicago Sun-Times' list of top 100 players, rated one of top 40 players in Virginia and one of top six running backs by Richmond Times-Dispatch and named to Orlando Sentinel All-Southern team … Rushed for 2,564 yards and 36 touchdowns as senior … Earned four letters in football, captaining the team as a senior … Virginia Group A Offensive Player of the Year in '97 and '98 by the Associated Press and Virginia High School Coaches Association … Virginia Region D and Lonesome Pine District Player of the Year as junior and senior … His career totals included 614 carries for 5,803 yards and 86 touchdowns … Intercepted 10 career passes as a safety … Helped Powell Valley to 28 straight victories and Virginia Group A-Division 2 state titles in 1997 and 1998 … Set the Virginia record with 321 rushing yards in one state playoff game (on 19 carries) while also scoring five TDs … Selected for the Virginia High School Coaches Association all-star game … Won four letters in basketball, serving as captain as senior and leading team to league titles as sophomore and junior … Added four letters in track, captaining the team as a senior and earning all-state honors his last three seasons while competing in hurdle and jump events … Helped the team to four straight conference titles in track … Set a state record with 38.7 in the 300 hurdles in '98 and has run a 14.2 in the 110 hurdles.
PERSONAL
Sociology major, enrolled in the College of Arts and Letters … Brother, Thomas, earned All-America honors as senior in 1999 while leading Virginia in rushing with 1,798 yards (163.45 per game to rank third nationally) that set an Atlantic Coast Conference record … Thomas was the sixth overall pick in the first round of the 2000 National Football League draft by Arizona Cardinals and also played for Tampa Bay before recently signing with the Chicago Bears … Twin sister, Knetris, attended Virginia as well … Born Julius Andre Maurice Jones on Aug. 14, 1981 … Resides in Big Stone Gap, Va.
 

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<Apr. 20> There continue to be rumblings that a few teams have inquired about the availability of Jones, who is coming off a 2006 season in which he posted a career-best 1,084 yards rushing, writes Len Pasquarelli. It's not the first time such rumors have surrounded Jones. There was talk before last year's draft that he might be swapped to the New York Jets. Jones is a tough, pinball-style runner, but there are concerns about his long-term durability. And although backup Marion Barber hasn't yet carried more than 150 times in a season, the suspicion is that some Dallas officials feel he is ready to take over the No. 1 role.
 

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Where there's smoke there's usually fire. And in this case in point, we're practically gagging off the smoke. In fact, name the last time at Valley Ranch when there was smoke this thick and a short while later the building wasn't up in "flames"? I just love the continued doubt of some fans, it's like nothing about the cowboys is known. The same ones that say Parcells could never coexist with Jerry, that TO won't ever be a cowboy, that there's noway we'd invest so much in Drew Henson and then just let him go. Well when those things happen, yknow when hell has frozen over, please let me know and I'll put on my doubter glasses and join yall in denial land.

JuJo is being shopped and shipped out before the month ends, I'd bet it all. Now go ahead, type your fingertips bloody, tell me and the whole world, for the zillionth time, how that's never gonna happen in a million years.
 

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i read a rumor julius will be our starting rb this coming season.. just a rumor though
 

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RealCowboyfan;1463082 said:
Julius Jones
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Dallas dangling Jones?
<Apr. 20> There continue to be rumblings that a few teams have inquired about the availability of Jones, who is coming off a 2006 season in which he posted a career-best 1,084 yards rushing, writes Len Pasquarelli. It's not the first time such rumors have surrounded Jones. There was talk before last year's draft that he might be swapped to the New York Jets. Jones is a tough, pinball-style runner, but there are concerns about his long-term durability. And although backup Marion Barber hasn't yet carried more than 150 times in a season, the suspicion is that some Dallas officials feel he is ready to take over the No. 1 rolequote]

:rolleyes: That says so much about the credibility of the person who originally wrote this.
 
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