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BigDFan5;1564453 said:
He has missed 21 out of 144 games (not counting 2006) that means he missed just under 15% of his games

counting last year 30 of 160 which is 17.5%

Sorry but missing 15% of your games IS injury prone

he hasnt played a 16 game season since the year 2000

You damn well better hope he stays healthy cause he is still the best you got. Smoot is garbage, Rogers needs to improve alot, and macklin? LOL that guy that got toasted at arizona? lol

Actually, as a #4, Macklin (by all accounts) is expected to do well.




BigDFan5;1564453 said:
13 is still a horrible number from a 43 DLine

Granted, but if Carter continues his production from last december up, that number would jump up to about 20. Which is where the 2004's DL was at.






BigDFan5;1564453 said:
Losing Ellis hurt our pass rush, not adjusting killed the defense, and that mediocre starter would be one of the better starters for your team

Oh okay dude. Where would he fit in? He MAY take over Daniels spot, but that's because Daniels is probably the worst starter on the team. Ellis wouldn't take any of our LBs spots, he's considerably worse then they are.



BigDFan5;1564453 said:
You would

Roy >Taylor

Newman > Springs

Henry = Rogers (cept Henry can catch)

Hamlin > Landry (until Landry you knows actually plays or maybe signs a contract)

You can keep Roy, I'd take Taylor. newman is better then Springs, and Rogers had a freaking hand surgery (like TO), so if you think TO will do better, then by associative logic, then Rogers will too.

Hamlin is a retread, Landry is a stud. The comparison is not even close.



BigDFan5;1564453 said:
Spencer is not a sure thing but one sentence above you use Landry as part of your argument that the skins have a better seconday LMAO

I knew you were going to say that. Do you think I didn't notice??? Landry, picked at #6 and called the most complete D player by numerous sources is considerably more of a "lock" then #28 picked Spencer, who had a couple of players, at his position, selected before him...
 

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adamknite;1564468 said:
Garcia found Owens deep down the left side, and he took the ball over Springs for the score.

:shush:

Wow, he caught a TD. Good job TO! I didn't say he was impeccible, I said SOLID.
 

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tomson75;1564462 said:
Your knowledge of nothing is truly impressive. I hope you stick around until this December.

The simple fact is (and you probably can't comprehend this due to your inability to acknowledge what team depth means) we took five (5) players in the draft that contributed on a team that went to the playoffs. How many did your 5-11 team draft? Fact is, Skyler Green contributed more than your 1st rounder in 2006, and we got rid of him.

I was around last year when you beat us. I can, at least, man up to my mistakes.

You took 5 players that contributed in an extremely small way to a team that couldn't do jack in the playoffs against a horribly depleted Seahawks team. Good freaking job. If only we could draft like that.

If your referring to Rocky Mac, I think it's safe to say the future looks a lot brighter from Rocky then it does Skyler Green. Hell, the future looks better for Rocky then it does for Bobby Carpenter.
 

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firehawk350;1564479 said:
Wow, he caught a TD. Good job TO! I didn't say he was impeccible, I said SOLID.

You told us to do the freaking research and BigDfan did. Now you say the research isn't good enough!? You are crazy dude.

Quit making stupid comments if you don't want people to expose them it's plane and freaking simple. Also I love how you direct your quote at me instead of the guy who just complete owned your arse. Nice try.
 

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firehawk350;1564445 said:
How did your team's draft go last year???

Hmmm, Bobby Carp (back-up), Anthony Fasano (I don't remember him ever making an impact play), Jason Hatcher (intriguing, I'll give you that), Skyler Green (didn't play a down), Pat Watkins (you picked up Hamlin because of his play), Montavious Stanley (cut, then picked up by another team, then cut and then picked up by you) and Pat McQuistan (we'll see).


Damn right, good young players! Thanks...!

Don't be scared, OK?


;)
 

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adamknite;1564483 said:
You told us to do the freaking research and BigDfan did. Now you say the research isn't good enough!? You are crazy dude.

BigDfan posted a story of a single play that TO beat Springs on. Wow... By that definition, does Mike Williams own Newman???

adamknite;1564483 said:
Quit making stupid comments if you don't want people to expose them it's plane and freaking simple. Also I love how you direct your quote at me instead of the guy who just complete owned your arse. Nice try.

I directed them at you because that was the post I happened to hit quick reply to. Nice try.
 

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5Stars;1564485 said:
Damn right, good young players! Thanks...!

Don't be scared, OK?


;)

Oh yeah, Bobby Carpenter... Wow... I mean, he's the most ferocious bench-warmer in the league. That bench won't even know what sat on it when Carp is done.
 

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firehawk350;1564487 said:
BigDfan posted a story of a single play that TO beat Springs on. Wow... By that definition, does Mike Williams own Newman???



I directed them at you because that was the post I happened to hit quick reply to. Nice try.

Look again my friend, he posted two. One against your team. You've failed again.

You said do the research, are we supposed to take that as we must research every play of ever year where Springs is lined up on Owens? :laugh2:
 

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firehawk350;1564491 said:
Oh yeah, Bobby Carpenter... Wow... I mean, he's the most ferocious bench-warmer in the league. That bench won't even know what sat on it when Carp is done.


You got that! The bench has already been taking care of...by all the players! Don't worry...these players won't come try and in and hurt your team...OK? It's OK...
 

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adamknite;1564497 said:
Look again my friend, he posted two. One against your team. You've failed again.

You said do the research, are we supposed to take that as we must research every play of ever year where Springs is lined up on Owens? :laugh2:
Your right dude, two TDs in the course of 3-4 years.
 

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firehawk350;1564475 said:
Actually, as a #4, Macklin (by all accounts) is expected to do well.

If Springs go down as usual do you really like the lineup of Rogers, Smoot, and Macklin? Come on man honestly?





Granted, but if Carter continues his production from last december up, that number would jump up to about 20. Which is where the 2004's DL was at.

Do you honestly think Carter is going to get 13 sacks?







Oh okay dude. Where would he fit in? He MAY take over Daniels spot, but that's because Daniels is probably the worst starter on the team. Ellis wouldn't take any of our LBs spots, he's considerably worse then they are.


he would fit in fine at Rockys spot seeing as Rocky has proven nothing and Ellis proved he can get about 6-8 sacks a year

Definately take over for Daniels

he is aboout on par with Carter




You can keep Roy, I'd take Taylor.
That would be your mistake


newman is better then Springs,

agreed

and Rogers had a freaking hand surgery (like TO), so if you think TO will do better, then by associative logic, then Rogers will too.

With the exception that TO has been all pro and proven he can be great, Rogers has shown nothing like that. So sorry that doesnt fly



Hamlin is a retread, Landry is a stud. The comparison is not even close.


Archuletta was a stud to remember? As of right now Hamlin > Landry may not remain that way but right now its the truth and any objective skins fan is not gonna say different



I knew you were going to say that. Do you think I didn't notice??? Landry, picked at #6 and called the most complete D player by numerous sources is considerably more of a "lock" then #28 picked Spencer, who had a couple of players, at his position, selected before him...

blah blah Tim Couch was picked #1 Brady round 6

Spencer was pick 26 how can I take you serious when you get such an easy detail wrong?

Also Spencer was dubbed the best pass rusher in the draft for a tweener and was talked about as just behind Gaines adams as a passrusher
 

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5Stars;1564498 said:
You got that! The bench has already been taking care of...by all the players! Don't worry...these players won't come try and in and hurt your team...OK? It's OK...

Good thing you reassured me. I was getting worried there...
 

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firehawk350;1564458 said:
One of the greatest D minds in the game, are you ****** kidding me? Who said that?! He's got a good mind for defense, but he's definitely not one of the greatest.

he's thought by many to be one of the best 3-4 minds, 2nd to LeBeau IMO

firehawk350 said:
Is this from the same system that rated Newman as overrated??? If you want to go that route...

yep, at least it's something other than your opinion, and Hamlin didn't lead the league in missed tackles and TDs given up

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According to the coach who has watched him practice for 20 minutes total?

wow, mini-camps?
 

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firehawk350;1564479 said:
Wow, he caught a TD. Good job TO! I didn't say he was impeccible, I said SOLID.


actually I posted links to 3 games where TO caught a total of 4 TDs


considering he only played Springs 7 times thats pretty good right there
 

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firehawk350;1564502 said:
Good thing you reassured me. I was getting worried there...


You're welcome to come in out of the cold...:star:
 

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firehawk350;1564475 said:
Actually, as a #4, Macklin (by all accounts) is expected to do well.

average corner at best

firehawk350 said:
Granted, but if Carter continues his production from last december up, that number would jump up to about 20. Which is where the 2004's DL was at.

big if, Carter has been average for awhile now


firehawk350 said:
Oh okay dude. Where would he fit in? He MAY take over Daniels spot, but that's because Daniels is probably the worst starter on the team. Ellis wouldn't take any of our LBs spots, he's considerably worse then they are.

LOL, Ellis is not a 4-3 LB, compare him to Carter

firehawk350 said:
You can keep Roy, I'd take Taylor.

why? what has Taylor done besides being one of the most burnt secondary players for his career

firehawk350 said:
Rogers had a freaking hand surgery (like TO), so if you think TO will do better, then by associative logic, then Rogers will too.

LOL, Rogers has done NOTHING up to this point in his career, that's like trying to compare Brandon Lloyd w/ TO

firehawk350 said:
Hamlin is a retread, Landry is a stud. The comparison is not even close.

Hamlin made more plays than anyone in your secondary last year, Landry is a rookie protected by a piss-poor pass-rush


firehawk350 said:
I knew you were going to say that. Do you think I didn't notice??? Landry, picked at #6 and called the most complete D player by numerous sources is considerably more of a "lock" then #28 picked Spencer, who had a couple of players, at his position, selected before him...

you're comparing 2 different positions here, but let's do it anyways, Spencer is being predicted by at least 2 people that I have seen to win DROY

Landry hasn't even been mentioned in the discussion
 

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firehawk350;1564480 said:
I was around last year when you beat us. I can, at least, man up to my mistakes.

Then man up when you're proven wrong on this board.

You took 5 players that contributed in an extremely small way to a team that couldn't do jack in the playoffs against a horribly depleted Seahawks team. Good freaking job. If only we could draft like that.

We took a LB that contributed heavily in the last four games of the year and shows a lot of potential. He would've started on your team. We took a TE that has also shown potential. He'd be a starter on many teams, and couldn't possibly be knocked for not starting behind a pro bowler in Witten. He'll be a regular contributor this year, and will create matchup problems for nearly every team we face this year. We took a flyer on a tremedously athletic DE that is proving to be worth his pick. He was a solid contributor last year, and would expect him to do the same this year. We took a 5th round FS that was thrown into the fire quickly and was forced to start very early, and with the exception of three awful games, he did fairly well. We then took an OL with the 7th that many believe will start in the NFL, sooner rather than later.

So, I'm just curious as to how this was a bad draft. Could we have done better? Absolutely. Hindsight is 20/20. However, insinuating that this was a poor draft is premature, and stupid.

If your referring to Rocky Mac, I think it's safe to say the future looks a lot brighter from Rocky then it does Skyler Green. Hell, the future looks better for Rocky then it does for Bobby Carpenter.

I wasn't refering to Rocky Mac, but then I would'nt expect you to catch the sarcasm. I was refering to the fact that you didn't even have a 1st in 2006. However, you're probably right that your so-so Rocky Mac will have a better career then our fifth rounder in 2006. Congratulations.

It does not, however, look better than Carpenter's. Again, your inability to grasp the concept of depth hinders your argument.

Have fun with your delusions. I sure am.
 
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