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[firehawk350]

One thing I find "********" is you making statements without knowing all the facts. Roy didn't land on TO when he broke his leg.

What's funny about this picture? I don't know? Maybe the fact that Roy isn't on TO? Yeah that could be it. See that's how you lose, you made a statement without knowing the facts, I corrected you and restated my point.

It seems to me that Roy's left knee is pretty damn close to TO's left ankle. Is that, perchance, the broken bone? Too bad you don't have depth perspection, I need to see another view to really tell.

Anyways, your arguing semantics. My very basic point is TO wasn't out because of some great hit by Roy, it was just an ackward tackle.

 

[5Stars]

Oh okay... And that matters here and now??? You somehow get a pass into the playoffs based on, well they were good last year???

Not at all...what I'm saying is that you are crying about injuries to your team, then come back and bring Ellis into the argument. Pathetic of you...also, it must suck to have injuries to fall back on because your team does not have any good backups.

Now, some Cowboy fans claime the same thing about Ellis getting injured and the defense went South...which is not the case. The defense went South when Ellis went down because NO exposed Parcells scheme because of Sean Payton...and our backups for Ellis are YOUNG DRAFTED players...

How did your team's draft go these past few years?

Nevermind, stupid question!


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[5Stars]

One thing I find "********" is you making statements without knowing all the facts. Roy didn't land on TO when he broke his leg.

What's funny about this picture? I don't know? Maybe the fact that Roy isn't on TO? Yeah that could be it. See that's how you lose, you made a statement without knowing the facts, I corrected you and restated my point.

What did you expect, adamkite? You do know who you are talking too, right?


:laugh2:

 

[BigDFan5]

Our D didn't "lack talent". We relied on Springs to stay healthy (probably not a good idea) and when he didn't, threw Rogers to the dogs. Then, because we had Rogers and Wright starting, had to move back into a cover-2 and completely f-ed our run defense (which was actually pretty stout heading into week 4 or 5) up.

Let's look at the facts. Springs was never healthy, and accordingly, the entire defense suffered. We also had other players in and out due to injury, but whatever, we'll just focus this. Springs is, arguably, the best player on our D.

Ellis exits due to an achilles problem. The decline of the defense, at that point, put Dallas as the worst D in the league (30.6 points given up a game). Ellis is probably your 4th or 5th best player on D.

So, in summary, you lose your 4th or 5th best player and become a worse defense then Washington (who lost their best) and yet, you are stacked on paper???

Interesting logic...

you do realize how silly yu sound right? Even after our D tanked at the end of the year due to lack of adjustments they STILL finished ranked WAY higher than washington.

See the difference was Dallas had a top 10 D all year until the last few games

Washington stunk from game 1 on

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't know why Redstink fans didn't learn their lesson from last offseason

let's look on how majorly wrong they were then...

Archuleta
Brandon Lloyd
Sean Taylor
playoffs

anything else that I missed?

edit: forgot about Al Saunders

 

[firehawk350]

you forget that you didn't have pass-rushers and finished '06 w/ only 19 team sacks, and because your pass-rush sucked, your cover-2 got exposed, which caused you to allow a boatload of big plays in the passing game, and frankly, Springs is an injury-prone player, I don't know why you're relying on him to stay healthy

Go ahead, do some research and tell me this, how many games has Springs missed, discounting last season, due to injury??? He's not as fragile as some would like you to believe. Anyways, we aren't relying on Springs being healthy this season.

And if you look, 13 of those sacks came from our DL. The lack of sacks came from little blitzing (because GW had no faith in Rogers/Wright) and one of our top pass-rushers being injured (that's Marcus Washington).

wait, we lost Ellis? he's going to get beat out by Anthony Spencer anyways

hell, Ware had only 8 1/2 less sacks than your team, by himself, and then we added a very good pass-rusher in Spencer, w/ Ellis coming in on passing situations, combine that w/ our better secondary, and well, you get the picture...

and even if we lose Ellis, which we haven't, one player isn't going to tank our D to Commander level

You lost Ellis last year (stay on freakin' topic dude), and then everyone moans that was the reason your defense went downhill. If losing a mediocre starter does that, wow, I wonder what will happen if, say, a key player missed time.

Anyways, who the hell said you had a better secondary? I'd take Taylor over Hamlin, Rogers over Henry and Landry over Williams.

Anyways, you can't count on an injured ellis to come in on passing situations and Spencer isn't a sure thing. He may be good, he may not.

 

[Smashmouth24]

I don't know why Redstink fans didn't learn their lesson from last offseason

let's look on how majorly wrong they were then...

Archuleta
Brandon Lloyd
Sean Taylor
playoffs

anything else that I missed?

pre-season doesn't matter / we're hiding our offense

 

[5Stars]

If Springs is healthy, I have absolutely no fear of TO. TO has never done anything against Springs.

Oh...so Springs is the big, bad guy that stops T.O., huh? :laugh2:

Amazing, fireSquawk...simply amazing!

 

[adamknite]

It seems to me that Roy's left knee is pretty damn close to TO's left ankle. Is that, perchance, the broken bone? Too bad you don't have depth perspection, I need to see another view to really tell.

Anyways, your arguing semantics. My very basic point is TO wasn't out because of some great hit by Roy, it was just an ackward tackle.

And what has been my point this whole time? Taylor's "hit" wasn't a big bad hit either. It was just Taylor tackling him from behind with him landing awkwardly, but yet you feel the need to argue with me. It didn't knock him out of the game just made him take a breather because he landed funny, but yet to you Commander fans this is proof that Taylor is an incredable safety.

 

[firehawk350]

How did your team's draft go these past few years?

Nevermind, stupid question!

How did your team's draft go last year???

Hmmm, Bobby Carp (back-up), Anthony Fasano (I don't remember him ever making an impact play), Jason Hatcher (intriguing, I'll give you that), Skyler Green (didn't play a down), Pat Watkins (you picked up Hamlin because of his play), Montavious Stanley (cut, then picked up by another team, then cut and then picked up by you) and Pat McQuistan (we'll see).

 

[firehawk350]

Oh...so Springs is the big, bad guy that stops T.O., huh? :laugh2:

Amazing, fireSquawk...simply amazing!

Look it up dude, Springs has typically been very solid against TO.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Go ahead, do some research and tell me this, how many games has Springs missed, discounting last season, due to injury??? He's not as fragile as some would like you to believe. Anyways, we aren't relying on Springs being healthy this season.

he's missed games the last 2 years...injury prone

and let's be real, Springs is just good

And if you look, 13 of those sacks came from our DL. The lack of sacks came from little blitzing (because GW had no faith in Rogers/Wright) and one of our top pass-rushers being injured (that's Marcus Washington).

you blitzed little because teams burnt you w/ the short-passes, which caused you to back up to protect your porous secondary who had 1 player who could cover

You lost Ellis last year (stay on freakin' topic dude), and then everyone moans that was the reason your defense went downhill. If losing a mediocre starter does that, wow, I wonder what will happen if, say, a key player missed time.

well, that mediocre player had only a half sack less than your best pass-rusher, in less games, and keep ignoring that we drafted a very good pass-rusher who by the HC's account, who btw, is one of the greatest D minds in the game, and Ware's, is farther along than Merriman and Ware were as rookies

I didn't address the Ellis excuse because I'm not using it

Anyways, who the hell said you had a better secondary? I'd take Taylor over Hamlin, Rogers over Henry and Landry over Williams.

:laugh1: wow, Hamlin's metrics ranked higher than Taylor's last year, Rogers is burnt toast and Landry is a rookie

Anyways, you can't count on an injured ellis to come in on passing situations and Spencer isn't a sure thing. He may be good, he may not.

Ellis' injury result came back NEGATIVE! and again, Spencer is farther along than Merriman and Ware were as rookies

 

[firehawk350]

Not at all...what I'm saying is that you are crying about injuries to your team, then come back and bring Ellis into the argument. Pathetic of you...also, it must suck to have injuries to fall back on because your team does not have any good backups.

I seem to remember a very similiar argument being spouted last year by Boys fans. How pathetic of you.

Now, some Cowboy fans claime the same thing about Ellis getting injured and the defense went South...which is not the case. The defense went South when Ellis went down because NO exposed Parcells scheme because of Sean Payton...and our backups for Ellis are YOUNG DRAFTED players...

Yeah, great. Your young drafted players sucked so bad, that when plugged into a starter's spot, with 10 other starters, they caused the great, dominant Cowboy's defense to become miserably horrible and spanked by the Lions

 

[BigDFan5]

Go ahead, do some research and tell me this, how many games has Springs missed, discounting last season, due to injury??? He's not as fragile as some would like you to believe. Anyways, we aren't relying on Springs being healthy this season.

He has missed 21 out of 144 games (not counting 2006) that means he missed just under 15% of his games

counting last year 30 of 160 which is 17.5%

Sorry but missing 15% of your games IS injury prone

he hasnt played a 16 game season since the year 2000

You damn well better hope he stays healthy cause he is still the best you got. Smoot is garbage, Rogers needs to improve alot, and macklin? LOL that guy that got toasted at arizona? lol

And if you look, 13 of those sacks came from our DL. The lack of sacks came from little blitzing (because GW had no faith in Rogers/Wright) and one of our top pass-rushers being injured (that's Marcus Washington).

13 is still a horrible number from a 43 DLine

You lost Ellis last year (stay on freakin' topic dude), and then everyone moans that was the reason your defense went downhill. If losing a mediocre starter does that, wow, I wonder what will happen if, say, a key player missed time.

Losing Ellis hurt our pass rush, not adjusting killed the defense, and that mediocre starter would be one of the better starters for your team

Anyways, who the hell said you had a better secondary? I'd take Taylor over Hamlin, Rogers over Henry and Landry over Williams.

You would

Roy >Taylor

Newman > Springs

Henry = Rogers (cept Henry can catch)

Hamlin > Landry (until Landry you knows actually plays or maybe signs a contract)

Anyways, you can't count on an injured ellis to come in on passing situations and Spencer isn't a sure thing. He may be good, he may not.

Spencer is not a sure thing but one sentence above you use Landry as part of your argument that the skins have a better seconday LMAO

 

[firehawk350]

he's missed games the last 2 years...injury prone

and let's be real, Springs is just good

Springs is good to great, depending. He can be great, but last year, he was just good.

you blitzed little because teams burnt you w/ the short-passes, which caused you to back up to protect your porous secondary who had 1 player who could cover

I've already said that.

well, that mediocre player had only a half sack less than your best pass-rusher, in less games, and keep ignoring that we drafted a very good pass-rusher who by the HC's account, who btw, is one of the greatest D minds in the game, and Ware's, is farther along than Merriman and Ware were as rookies

One of the greatest D minds in the game, are you ****** kidding me? Who said that?! He's got a good mind for defense, but he's definitely not one of the greatest.

wow, Hamlin's metrics ranked higher than Taylor's last year, Rogers is burnt toast and Landry is a rookie

Is this from the same system that rated Newman as overrated??? If you want to go that route...

Ellis' injury result came back NEGATIVE! and again, Spencer is farther along than Merriman and Ware were as rookies

According to the coach who has watched him practice for 20 minutes total?

 

[BigDFan5]

Look it up dude, Springs has typically been very solid against TO.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4196/is_20021015/ai_n10822274

 

[tomson75]

How did your team's draft go last year???

Hmmm, Bobby Carp (back-up), Anthony Fasano (I don't remember him ever making an impact play), Jason Hatcher (intriguing, I'll give you that), Skyler Green (didn't play a down), Pat Watkins (you picked up Hamlin because of his play), Montavious Stanley (cut, then picked up by another team, then cut and then picked up by you) and Pat McQuistan (we'll see).

Your knowledge of nothing is truly impressive. I hope you stick around until this December.

The simple fact is (and you probably can't comprehend this due to your inability to acknowledge what team depth means) we took five (5) players in the draft that contributed on a team that went to the playoffs. How many contributors did your 5-11 team draft? Fact is, Skyler Green contributed more than your 1st rounder in 2006, and we got rid of him.

 

[BigDFan5]

Look it up dude, Springs has typically been very solid against TO.

http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content_box.asp?ID=1193

 

[adamknite]

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4196/is_20021015/ai_n10822274

Garcia found Owens deep down the left side, and he took the ball over Springs for the score.

:shush:

 

[tomson75]

Look it up dude, Springs has typically been very solid against TO.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4196/is_20021015/ai_n10822274

pwned...again.

...and again, and again, and again....