Sick of RGIII

[khiladi]

Yeah, on the second TD to go up 14-0 is when he injured his knee even further and he stayed in the game and continued playing at what looked like about 30%. Then obviously it eventually gave out completely.

BS... He chucked a horrible PI downfield after pump-faking and avoiding the rush without any leg issues on the second drive after the re-injury. The problem is, it was a horrible read and Earl Thomas read RG3s eyes all the way and ran across the field to INT it. Even Troy Aikman mentioned it as a bad play on RG3. On the first drive after the injury, RG3 got hit for a loss behind the LOS, when Seattle blew threw the line. The Commanders then ran twice and were in 3rd and 2 and RG3 was avoiding the rush, checking down to his 3rd WR across the field, because of excellent coverage. He had to throw across his body and missed him on a very tough angle, meaning he was contorting his body just fine.

Seattle just started to dominate the game. In fact, it could have been much worse if Seattle didn't fumble when right about to score on the opening drive of the 3rd period. They started to control the clock and lock down on the Commanders, after spotting them a 14 point lead because of jitters, including giving the Commanders good field position on the second drive,

 

[Irvin88_4life]

When a QB has a won a Heisman followed by an NFL rookie of the year award and helped lead their team that was 5-11 the year prior to a season finale win that had a playoff birth and a division title on the line you can't say they haven't won anything. There's a lot of things that constitutes being a "winner." If I said Romo wasn't a "winner" because of his 1-3 playoff record I would be torpedoed. The regular season has to count for something and so do division titles. If you say a QB isn't a "winner" strictly off their playoff record then you're pinning every loss entirely on the QB. RG3 exhibits qualities of a "winner" which is why he was successful in college and so far has been successful in the NFL. He has intangibles associated with a "winner."

He displays leadership and is able to raise the level of play of this teammates and he excites the fans. He has a swagger/confidence about him and I honestly believe barring further injuries he's going to be a great player for a number of years. If his knees (health) holds up Washington is going to dominate the NFC East for a number of years. By the time RG3 is reaching his prime (27-28) Romo will be done and the Cowboys will be looking for another QB. With RG3, Kaepernick and Russell Wilson you won't have a prayer of reaching the SB without a comparable QB. It's a QB driven league and barring serious injury Washington, SF and Seattle are set for the next decade at QB.

All 3 QB's are dynamic players at the position who will continue to improve and if you don't have a QB who can compete with them you'll never get past them when it matters most. If the Cowboys are going to make waves they better start making it happen soon because Romo at 33 isn't going to get any better and those other QB's are just scratching the surface on their potential. As for RG3 wouldn't surprise me if he gets off to a slow start this season and possibly has a down year. Not playing in any preseason games to gain some confidence on his repaired knee was a big mistake in my opinion.

He might have won rookie of the year because he is too hyped. Luck and Wilson was much better then RG the turd. Without Alfred Morris having a phenomanal season Commanders don't make playoffs. There was games Griffin threw 10 passes or less, Luck carried his team.

 

[KJJ]

He might have won rookie of the year because he is too hyped. Luck and Wilson was much better then RG the turd. Without Alfred Morris having a phenomanal season Commanders don't make playoffs. There was games Griffin threw 10 passes or less, Luck carried his team.

Referring to RG3 as the "turd" clearly shows you have a bias against him which discredits anything you say about him. Luck also had a lot of hype he was the #1 overall pick. RG3 may have had games where he threw 10 passes or less but he produced 4015 total yards passing/rushing. He did a lot damage with his legs his 815 rushing yards was a rookie record for a QB. His TD to turnover ratio was 20-7 and he had a passer rating of 102.4.

He also completed 65..6 percent of his passes and his 7 rushing TD's were 3 more than any of the Cowboys RB's. Granted Morris played a big part in Washington's success last season but the Skins go nowhere without RG3 which is why he was named rookie of the year. RG3 made that offense go and once his knee gave out vs Seattle it was season over for Washington.

 

[Shunpike]

I liked the guy even though he played for Commanders. Common enemy.

But last year after he got injured, he showed his true colors. "I am RG3 and things have to be my way". Same attitude continued in the off season and his latest clash with Shanahan solidified my opinion.

I don't like the guy. Not because he is playing for a division rival, but because he is a bad person.

Now onto Romo. I like the guy a lot. I respect him a lot even though he plays for Cowboys. He has done nothing wrong in front of the media and took some cheap shots yet stayed classy.

 

[DanteEXT]

The year before RG3 arrived in Washington the Commanders were a 5-11 team. They hadn't made the playoffs since 07. Until last season Washington hadn't won 10 games since 05. With the style of QB RG3 is having a leg injury is a big disadvantage but even on a bad knee he was able limp for 63 yards vs the Cowboys in the season finale picking up some key 3rd downs. RG3 has played only one season in the NFL and won 10 games and got his team into the playoffs despite being injured. He was 10-3 his final season at Baylor so he does win games. Of course RG3 has a ways to go to be considered a "winner" you took my comment too literally.

The year before Pierre Garcon arrived in Washington the Commanders were a 5-11 team. They hadn't made the playoffs since 07. Until last season Washington hadn't won 10 games since 05. With the style of WR Garcon is having a foot injury is a big disadvantage but even on a bad wheel he was able limp for 46 yards vs the Cowboys in the season finale picking up some key 1st downs. Without Garcon in the lineup Washington only managed 1 win in 6 games. Garcon has played only one season for Washington and won 9 games and got his team into the playoffs despite being injured.

Hehe... that was fun.

 

[KJJ]

The year before Pierre Garcon arrived in Washington the Commanders were a 5-11 team. They hadn't made the playoffs since 07. Until last season Washington hadn't won 10 games since 05. With the style of WR Garcon is having a foot injury is a big disadvantage but even on a bad wheel he was able limp for 46 yards vs the Cowboys in the season finale picking up some key 1st downs. Without Garcon in the lineup Washington only managed 1 win in 6 games. Garcon has played only one season for Washington and won 9 games and got his team into the playoffs despite being injured.

Hehe... that was fun.

Have another one on me...cheers!

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Referring to RG3 as the "turd" clearly shows you have a bias against him which discredits anything you say about him. Luck also had a lot of hype he was the #1 overall pick. RG3 may have had games where he threw 10 passes or less but he produced 4015 total yards passing/rushing. He did a lot damage with his legs his 815 rushing yards was a rookie record for a QB. His TD to turnover ratio was 20-7 and he had a passer rating of 102.4.

He also completed 65..6 percent of his passes and his 7 rushing TD's were 3 more than any of the Cowboys RB's. Granted Morris played a big part in Washington's success last season but the Skins go nowhere without RG3 which is why he was named rookie of the year. RG3 made that offense go and once his knee gave out vs Seattle it was season over for Washington.

Yea I might agree if Cousins had not came in and put up great stats as well. Luck or Wilson goes down their teams don't make the playoffs. That's nice because I said turd means I know nothing.....ok yea buddy oh great and all knowing

 

[Califan007]

Yea I might agree if Cousins had not came in and put up great stats as well.

And Matt Flynn put up great stats when he played for Aaron Rodgers.

I love Cousins as our backup but using his single game in an effort to somehow devalue RG3's entire season is, well, asinine. Nothing that Cousins did last season takes anything away from what Griffin did.

 

[KJJ]

Yea I might agree if Cousins had not came in and put up great stats as well. Luck or Wilson goes down their teams don't make the playoffs. That's nice because I said turd means I know nothing.....ok yea buddy oh great and all knowing

Referring to a player as a "turd" means you don't like that player so how honest an opinion can you give of them when it's clear you don't like them? Why is he a "turd" because he's good and he plays for a rival? Some of you can't stop being a FAN for one minute. If Romo had accomplished as rookie what RG3 did you certainly wouldn't be trying to discredit him. Not once have you given RG3 an once of credit but passed out plenty to Morris and Andrew Luck.

I'm no RG3 fan but I can look at his game objectively and give an honest opinion that isn't influenced by my dislike for the Skins. Cousin's only played one full game in week 15 after Washington had already established themselves as a good team. Had Cousin's started the season or Washington was forced to finish out the season with him in weeks 16 and 17 they may never have made the playoffs. You're just looking for anything you can to discredit the season RG3 had last year. You can't make it anymore obvious.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Referring to a player as a "turd" means you don't like that player so how honest an opinion can you give of them when it's clear you don't like them? Why is he a "turd" because he's good and he plays for a rival? Some of you can't stop being a FAN for one minute. If Romo had accomplished as rookie what RG3 did you certainly wouldn't be trying to discredit him. Not once have you given RG3 an once of credit but passed out plenty to Morris and Andrew Luck.

I'm no RG3 fan but I can look at his game objectively and give an honest opinion that isn't influenced by my dislike for the Skins. Cousin's only played one full game in week 15 after Washington had already established themselves as a good team. Had Cousin's started the season or Washington was forced to finish out the season with him in weeks 16 and 17 they may never have made the playoffs. You're just looking for anything you can to discredit the season RG3 had last year. You can't make it anymore obvious.

And you can't be anymore more wrong, show me where I said Griffin had a terrible season. I said he was over hyped which he is and that Morris was a huge factor with their sucess. To think other wise...well is overhyping Griffin. I will call him whatever I want doesn't mean I make up things. To me Luck and Wilson was better players and with out them wouldn't have gone as far. Cousins is a guy that can produce wins for that team without Robert Griffin the Turd

 

[Irvin88_4life]

And Matt Flynn put up great stats when he played for Aaron Rodgers.

I love Cousins as our backup but using his single game in an effort to somehow devalue RG3's entire season is, well, asinine. Nothing that Cousins did last season takes anything away from what Griffin did.

Again I said Morris and Cousins could have lead the Commanders to the play offs. Take it however you want, can't debate with people like you because its your right and everybody is wrong. In my opinion Griffin is over hyped and Luck is still the better QB and should have been rookie of the year. Morris over Griffin as well, 1600 yards is great take that to under 1000 Griffin don't make the play offs

 

[KJJ]

And you can't be anymore more wrong, show me where I said Griffin had a terrible season. I said he was over hyped which he is and that Morris was a huge factor with their sucess. To think other wise...well is overhyping Griffin. I will call him whatever I want doesn't mean I make up things. To me Luck and Wilson was better players and with out them wouldn't have gone as far. Cousins is a guy that can produce wins for that team without Robert Griffin the Turd

You couldn't be more wrong I never claimed you said RG3 had a terrible season I said you haven't given him an ounce of credit. You keep pointing to other players on his team for the success Washington had. Are you going to tell me that RG3 wasn't a huge factor in Washington's success last season? Doubt you would be saying the same things about Luck and Wilson if they were in the NFC East and one of them helped knock the Cowboys out of the playoffs in week 17.

So you're saying Cousin's can produce just as many wins and Washington doesn't need RG3? You made that determination from the ONE full game Cousin's played? That's almost like saying The Packers didn't need Rodgers with Matt Flynn who put up 480 yards and a franchise record 6 TD's vs Detroit in 2011. LOL You sound like a typical armchair FAN.

 

[KJJ]

Again I said Morris and Cousins could have lead the Commanders to the play offs. Take it however you want, can't debate with people like you because its your right and everybody is wrong. In my opinion Griffin is over hyped and Luck is still the better QB and should have been rookie of the year. Morris over Griffin as well, 1600 yards is great take that to under 1000 Griffin don't make the play offs

That's just you continuing to take credit away from RG3. Morris didn't produce without RG3. Defenses were able to zero in on him not having to worry about the duel threat of RG3. In the one full game RG3 missed vs Cleveland Morris rushed for only 87 yards averaging 3.2 a carry. I agree that Luck is the better QB and it could be argued he should have been named rookie of the year but RG3 is a terrific player and Washington doesn't go 10-6 and win the NFC East without him. Cousins was terrible replacing RG3 vs Seattle in the playoffs he was 3-10 and had a passer rating of 40.0

 

[Califan007]

Again I said Morris and Cousins could have lead the Commanders to the play offs. Take it however you want, can't debate with people like you because its your right and everybody is wrong. In my opinion Griffin is over hyped and Luck is still the better QB and should have been rookie of the year. Morris over Griffin as well, 1600 yards is great take that to under 1000 Griffin don't make the play offs

1) you didn't say that in the post I quoted.

2) This was my only post in this thread lol...how the (censored) did you reach the conclusion that I think I'm right and everybody else is wrong?

3) If you feel RG3 is overrated because you think the Skins could have made the playoffs with Cousins and Morris due to one game against the Cleveland stinkin' browns, what's your opinion of Romo when Kitna took over for 10 games, put up the same stats as Romo, and had a better win/loss record than Romo?

 

[gambit187]

I'm here in DC, been here since 95. Why does this feel like a set up, I have feeling is whole tenure with the Commanders is going to be full of controversy

 

[Teren_Kanan]

Still not as bad as Tebow, that guy STILL gets coverage and he can't even make a team...

 

[Teren_Kanan]

There is certainly some unjustified hate on RGIII's game though. The guy produces, I don't understand how anyone could knock em. He wins AND has the stats. Whats to hate?

My only beef with RGIII is it's never going to last. It never does. The league will eventually break him, like every QB of his type.

 

[fifaguy]

So tired of it... And I live right outside Washington, DC. I hear it 24/7 haha

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

Eh.

If he played for the Cowboys, I'd be eating it up.

 

[KJJ]

He wins AND has the stats. Whats to hate?

He wins and has the stats plus he plays for Washington that's why there's hate.