Grossman threw 4 ints against the Eagles--I would say that is a pretty good reason to bench him. Following the Panthers game, Grossman was hospitalized with pneumonia. I don't think he was available for 2 weeks. And these are his numbers from that year: 57.9% comp. 3151 yards, 16 TDs 20 INTs in 13 games. Let me reiteriate with some emphasis--he through 20 INTs in 13 games. That's not "good." Beck was worse, but lets be honest, Grossman wasn't good either.
And Grossman DID start against Miami--and threw 2 picks and no TDs.
Lavar Arrington rips Shanahan for everything. It's his schtick. And he's an idiot--he didn't even know our record last year--saying the team wasn't that good.
Finally, Shanahan made the comment this past year about people playing for their jobs--and it was the catalyst behind the 7 game winning streak.
You might want to do some research before posting next time.
I fail to see your point:
1. So was Shanny the catalyst before the 7 game win streak or was RG3? They were 3-6 with RG3 as their starter. The difference between 2011 a 2012 is that in 2012, the Commander were still in the division race, cause the whole NFC East blew chunks in terms of records at that time. What exactly is your point in comparing the two, especially when in 2011, Shanny actually did start playing with next season in mind.
2. Wait, you bench QB when you start off 3 and 1, because of one bad game, for an unproven bust like John Beck. And that too, when your leading the division? The point I was making is not that RG was all-world,
but that he was playing well as the wijns indicae, you know the contention of difference between 2011 season and 2012 per the person I was respondin too. RG is what he is, but he was getting the job done, which was winning games. The idea that one uses 5-11 as some sort of benchmark, without taking into account the totally un-called for play by Shanny is utterly absurd. John Beck absolutely sucked. Unless your trying to argue that the Commanders were better off with Jeff Beck and would not have won more games if they never benched RG. Is that what your arguing?
3. 13 games is the FULL SEASON, after the fact. That has little relevance to what happened when Jeff Beck was first inserted into the line-up. I had already stated that the Commanders threw in the towel once they moved to the bottom of the division. As far as Beck, we can see why they inserted him per KYLE'S own words:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/sh...-era-begins-for-the-Commanders?urn=nfl,wp9947
"So they asked me who I'd pick if I had the 10th pick in the draft. I told them Beck. They said he's not worth the 10th pick in the draft. I was standing on the table for him. I've never seen a guy play that well in college."
So your still going to argue that Beck played over RG, because of pneumonia, which he did get after he benching. Well, let's see how RG understood the benching:
"I'm a professional. I'm going to go about my business the same way," he said. "I know this offense. If I do get back in there, I'm gonna feel real good about it. I'm gonna feel real good about where I'm at. Just try to get better and build on the things I did well. Having success and winning games will propel my confidence, if I do get back in there. Obviously, there's things I need to clean up, but for the most part, I'll be in a good frame of mind."
4. And RG threw the ball over sixty times more that RG3 in 2 less gas of the regular season and got about the same yardage, meaning Shanny wasn't attacking downfield with RG3 like he was with RG. Thus, it is only logical his INTs would go up.
5. Again, as I stated,
In fact, I think Shanny made comments that time that people were playing for their jobs next season and he started play them accordingly.
I wouldn't really call them a 5-11 team in actuality. They could have at least 2 wins during that stretch Beck started, one against the Bills who were just awful, the other against Miami. And that would have most definitely altered the way they played the rest of the season, meaning another win was more than likely.
Even if one says LaVar hates, as I stated before that:
That year, living in DC, I know how fickle the fans were and how much they called for his head and how much they regretted it afterwards.
It was just LaVar blasting Shanny, it was all of DC. Your seriously not going to contend with me that people weren't calling for Shanny's head, especially when they were claiming that Shanny made no QB improvements, and went with RG and Beck that year, knowing what RG was. We don't even have to go to Mike, we can go to Kyle Shanahan and how DC was trashing him.