Signs out of San Diego point to Norv

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BigDFan5;1345031 said:
They do have a choice though. San Diego does not have to let them go

Just like we didnt have to let Haley and Palmer go


Haley would have been overkill with Sparano/Garrett and he got a "promotion" to to be the OC in AZ.

Palmer's contract was up.

On top of that Haley was a hot head and thought to be the "leak" inside VR.
 

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BigDFan5;1345038 said:
name one that is avaliable right now


I don't have to "name one".

I'll see the performance on the field.

Where in God's name do you think "name" coordinators come from? They don't just "pop-up" as name coordinators.

Sometimes BDF5 you have to do the dirty work and develop your own just like other teams do.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1345050 said:
I keep asking the question but I don't seem to get an answer.

Why are we bringing in Norv to tutor/groom JG if the HC is not to be worried about the X's and O's like you feel is for a HC that is known for Defense?

How do you know that he isn't being groomed from the HC aspect?

Why are you assuming that he's being groomed in "X's and O's"?

I've not seen one report that that states Garrett needs mentoring in "X's and O's"-- not one.
 

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BigDFan5;1345026 said:
Yes they can stop Manusky from interviewing, and if they werent sure if Phillips was coming back they wouldnt have allowed him to interview with the 9ers

As I said this isnt definite just "signs"
They can stop a coach from interviewing for a non-lateral move?
 

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MichaelWinicki;1345069 said:
How do you know that he isn't being groomed from the HC aspect?

Why are you assuming that he's being groomed in "X's and O's"?

I've not seen one report that that states Garrett needs mentoring in "X's and O's"-- not one.

I have not seen one report that Norv is being brought in because of his superior HC abilities...not one.

Come on Mike, we all know why Norv is being brought in, even if you like the hire you know why he is being brought in and that is to mentor Garrett to take over as HC down the road.
 

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theogt;1345071 said:
They can stop a coach from interviewing for a non-lateral move?
I think if you're under contract they can - but it's a prick move, and noone does.
 

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superpunk;1345049 said:
and if you don't know either way, it would be a jerk move to prevent a member of your staff from interviewing for a better position, because something MAY happen. We didn't prevent anyone we wanted to stay from interviewing for better jobs.

We turned down people who wanted to interview Sparano and Bowles

We did it last year too


Its business you dont potentially hurt your team by letting someone leave a few days before you know if you need him. You make him wait the few days then if Phillips stay you give him permission
 

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BigDFan5;1345079 said:
We turned down people who wanted to interview Sparano and Bowles

We did it last year too


Its business you dont potentially hurt your team by letting someone leave a few days before you know if you need him. You make him wait the few days then if Phillips stay you give him permission

Did we do it for non-lateral moves? Sparano and Bowles were our coordinating staff - short of head coach, we could deny no problem. I'm just saying man, this is a stretch of a connection. Might be right, but it's a stretch.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1345067 said:
I don't have to "name one".

I'll see the performance on the field.

Where in God's name do you think "name" coordinators come from? They don't just "pop-up" as name coordinators.

Sometimes BDF5 you have to do the dirty work and develop your own just like other teams do.


You're the one that said all you have to do is hired a "skilled Dcoord"

I just want to know who this guy is? Easy to say just find one, but not realistic IMO
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1345074 said:
I have not seen one report that Norv is being brought in because of his superior HC abilities...not one.

Come on Mike, we all know why Norv is being brought in, even if you like the hire you know why he is being brought in and that is to mentor Garrett to take over as HC down the road.


If Garrett is that weak on X's and O's why bother interviewing Phillips or any other present defensive coordinator?
 

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theogt;1345071 said:
They can stop a coach from interviewing for a non-lateral move?


Yes, the only interview you cant stop are if they are interviewing for the head coaching position
 

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MichaelWinicki;1345086 said:
If Garrett is that weak on X's and O's why bother interviewing Phillips or any other present defensive coordinator?
Cuz Sparano totally kicks ***!

Ask me more. These are easy.
 

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theogt;1345071 said:
They can stop a coach from interviewing for a non-lateral move?

Yes, you can. The only exception is if you are interviewing the coach for a head coaching position. For example, the Dolphins denied permission for at least two other teams to interview Garrett to be their OC until Dallas came knocking.

The lateral move rule was changed because teams kept using phony titles like "assistant head coach / outside linebackers" to get around the rule.
 

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superpunk;1345083 said:
Did we do it for non-lateral moves? Sparano and Bowles were our coordinating staff - short of head coach, we could deny no problem. I'm just saying man, this is a stretch of a connection. Might be right, but it's a stretch.


We stopped Sparano for interviwing for OCood jobs

I dont think its much of a stretch to believe that San Diego may want to keep the likely successor to Phillips if they thought he was leaving in just a couple days
 

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BigDFan5;1345096 said:
We stopped Sparano for interviwing for OCood jobs

I dont think its much of a stretch to believe that San Diego may want to keep the likely successor to Phillips if they thought he was leaving in just a couple days
He is an offensive coordinator for us. That is not a step up.

What San Diego might want to do, and what they realistically would do to a guy being offered a better job, are entirely different. It's a big stretch.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1345086 said:
If Garrett is that weak on X's and O's why bother interviewing Phillips or any other present defensive coordinator?

If he is so good why are we interviewing Norv Turner.

This is fun.

I know you are but what are you....or I am rubber you are glue, what you say bounces off me and sticks to you.

So there...what do you think of that you mustached bully. :p:

This is my line of thinking.

If they think Jason is good on his own and does not need Help they will hire Wade.

If they think Jason needs help they will hire Norv.

Right or wrong...that is the way I see it...with a tie going to Norv because Jerry knows him better.
 

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BigDFan5;1344996 said:
http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/default.asp?item=461024

Manusky is very highly regarded by Marty and would probably be bumped to DC if Phillips left.

Them giving permission to the 9ers to interview him for their DC job tells me they already know Phillips isnt leaving


Funny enough this is a guy Hostile and I have spoken about coming over with Phillips if he was hired

maybe this means that norv could possibly bring singletary with him. win win scenario if u ask me
 
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