Similarities to the 90s team

[LocimusPrime]

I'm going to invent a time machine just so those teams can all play each other.

I say the 92 Cowboys crush everyone.

I got shotgun on your time machine. Can we stop in 2007, I need to slap someone

 

[haleyrules]

1993 DEs

• Charles Haley
• Jim jeffcoat
• Tony Tolbert

1993 DTs

• Russell Maryland
• Leon Lett
• Tony Casillas
• Chad Hennings
• Jimmie jones

Now thats a defense.

 

[xwalker]

I got shotgun on your time machine. Can we stop in 2007, I need to slap someone

Sure.

Then we can go back and bring some players to current day from when they were in their prime.

Erik Williams
Darren Woodson
Haley
Deion
Irvin

Give me those 5 on the current team and the Cowboys will never lose a game.

Erik Williams
Zack Martin
Fred
La'el
Tyron

 

[Knotamus]

there is an uncanny similarities between this team and the team of the 90's and how it was built. obviously in the 90's we didn't have salary cap to deal with and trades were more frequent (and more willing partners), but Johnson completely turned over the roster and built a deep, talented young team through the draft. even down to the players and positions. I am stating the obvious, but aikman, emmitt....dak zeke. a brash experienced WR in Irvin and suddenly Bryant is the sr. member of the trio with the passion and fiery attitude. and similarly this team has been built through the draft.

aikman and emmitt were just having fun and seems the same with Zeke. the great OL of the 90's and that's what we have and that line was built before arrival of the triplets. a deep Wr group, that although none would be a primary receiver are capable of hurting the defense and need to be accounted for. even Beasley, a smallish WR with speed is similar to Kevin Williams in the 90's. and of course Novaceck compared to Witten. both Sr. members of the teams.

and now the defense is eerie similar. the secondary was deep and this secondary seems the same way. the strength was in Woodson, a heady cover safety who Byron Jones reminds me of. and the DL, deep. people forget how we continuously rotated the DL in the 90's wearing out offenses as opposed to the Offense wearing out the defense. 4th quarters was when we closed deals and we saw some of that last year. the one missing ingredient then was a dominant pass rusher and we got Haley. seems like we are in the same place and trying to swing for the fences with Taco Charlton.

and I think this team, despite the ending grew up a lot last year. they learned to win games. they learned they are able to come from behind and win. they learned they can close games. they started to believe in themselves. and we lost in the playoffs in 91, to Detroit. a team we had faced earlier in the year. the team grew up in that playoff year.

Does this guarantee a superbowl appearance, or win this coming year? no. playoffs are playoffs. there are no guarantees and plus this is the salary cap era, the all teams are equal era. but I can't help to see the uncanny similarities between the two team and how they were put together.

and the last point is on garrett, which I am sure will stir emotions. Johnson was a geat coach, but he also had a great staff. great coordinators, Turner, Butch Davis, Dave Wandstedd, a lot of whom went on to become head coaches, although not seeing the same success, they were great coordinators. Johnson was more of a manager, maestro than involved in game planning, play calling, etc. he put his staff together and he trusted them. He managed the team culture, the vision, players and made sure it was all about competition and football.

Garrett is in similar position, he has two former head coaches, who didn't succeed as head coaches, but were great coordinators. he is now more of a manager and maestro. He has learned to trust his coaching staff, has created a vision and build a culture around competition and football. We should expect that, as he played and learned under Johnson.

hopefully, this team learned from their playoff loss last year and will show the ability to get over the hump and bring home the 6th trophy. there is just this feeling about this team. they are just having fun playing football.

I agree with most of what your saying and have thought the very same thing. The defense is obviously the only thing that's holding this team back from reminiscing the glory days of the 90s. Although I could project certain players to fit the 90's mold, they just haven't proven it... yet. As an optimist, I hope they turn that corner this year.

Problem here is.. when you compare the Great 90's teams/players to modern day, folks lose their minds. Even though, it is only natural to compare past to present as a 'measuring stick' for today's Cowboys. As great as the triplets were, it's was our defense (Haley, Tolbert, Woodson, Brown, Marion, Sanders, Maryland, etc) that helped beat the 49ers and GB in the playoffs and propelled us to the Super Bowl. I'm happy to see the improvements we made defensively last year, but they have to prove it in the playoffs to be legit.

As far as the offense is concern, an argument can be made that the 2016 team was better than any of the 90s teams.

QB- Aikman is the man, no doubt. He was a General and leader on the field..and probably the real glue of 90s teams. Although he didn't put up gaudy yards, he was considered one of the more accurate passers of his time. That said, no rookie QB has ever done what Dak did last year. For that matter, Aikman statistically never had a season like that his entire career. Dak hasn't won a SB(or three)though, but last years lost to GB definitely wasn't his doing either. His future is definitely brighter than Aikmans rookie season. The projections are limitless.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AikmTr00.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01.htm

RB- Both Emmitt and Zeke have/are benefiting from the best OL of their times. Both are outstanding at what they do. Hindsight is 20/20 when it comes to Emmitts performances, But Zeke could easily become the next great Cowboys RB if last year is any indication. Zeke had 1994 yards from scrimmage and was held out the final game of the season. Emmitt broke 2k yscm twice his career. Zeke avg over 5ypc.. Emmitt, only once in his career.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitEm00.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/ElliEz00.htm

TE- as much as I loved Novacek in the past, there's no comparison to Witten. IMO, Witten is the goat.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NovaJa00.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WittJa00.htm

WR- as far as the Dez and Irvin comparison, Irvin has that locked down. Although, both players have similar intangibles or 'heart' as most would say. Irvin just knew how to stay on the field. But there is a reason why Irvin himself calls Dez his son. Definitely comparable.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/I/IrviMi00.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BryaDe01.htm

OL- Well, i won't compare the two because there's really no need. Both groups are considered the best of their respected era's

I understand that some won't see it this way, but that's ok. It's just opinions either way. At the end of the day, I see improvements happening every year. We have a very good, very young, very motivated team right now. That alone gets me excited for the season. Add are modern day triplets and OL to and improved defense and we might be lifting hardware by seasons end.

 

[Silver N Blue]

In all do respect I am done with this comparison. I've posted many many many times where there have been comparisons based on my opinion how this team relates to one of those years..but now the more I think about it every comparison is a disservice to the team of the 90s. We are talking about HOF'ers with the 90s teams, the league creating FA as we know it today because those teams were 4 legit starters deep, and a coaching staff which brought forth future coaches and philosophies. While the current regime has had some nice seasons and some great players have emerged with some HOFers like Witten and Ware...nothing great has transpired...yet...no title, no dominance in the playoffs, no coaches leaving to be head coaches for the first time with other teams, no league wide change pointing back to this organization. I get the comparison I really do and want it in the most way.... Don't get me wrong this team has some very very promising players which very well could be HOFers in their own right. I'm waiting, I'm hoping, I just can't put this team or current regime in the same class as where this organization was back then. It's almost like this organization right now is a zerox machine and trying to copy something from the past or how the Patriots manage their organization. I get this as well..copy cat league...for me its time to capture their own identity like the great organizations do. Especially the ones who become a dynasty. Create your own identity current Dallas Cowboys organization and step away from the past success and copy cat mentality and stand up and be great on your own. It's time to move away from the shadow this great organization has created from past successes and put the league on notice you are in deed back and its time for the Pats dynasty and philosophies to come to an end. The only comparison worth making for me anymore will be the number of trophies you hold over your head. Put up or shut up time. Can you take it to the next level...I'm ready, this great fan base is ready, and frankly some of us have grown weary of living in the 90s....bring it home!!

 

[waving monkey]

I swear I will shoot up a daycare if someone compares Garrett to Jimmy.

Garrett is bet.....

 

[L-O-Jete]

Sure.

Then we can go back and bring some players to current day from when they were in their prime.

Erik Williams
Darren Woodson
Haley
Deion
Irvin

Give me those 5 on the current team and the Cowboys will never lose a game.

Erik Williams
Zack Martin
Fred
La'el
Tyron

If you're bringing Williams might as well bring LA... forget Collins.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

1. The only similarities I want to see is back to back super bowl wins. I really see it and believe Dak will help lead us to Super Bowls.

2. If that happens and we are in position to win 3 straight.... Jerry has a responsibility, a duty..... HECK, HE OWES US for blowing that opportunity back in 90s... to get that first ever three peat in NFL.

 

[CowboyRoy]

there is an uncanny similarities between this team and the team of the 90's and how it was built. obviously in the 90's we didn't have salary cap to deal with and trades were more frequent (and more willing partners), but Johnson completely turned over the roster and built a deep, talented young team through the draft. even down to the players and positions. I am stating the obvious, but aikman, emmitt....dak zeke. a brash experienced WR in Irvin and suddenly Bryant is the sr. member of the trio with the passion and fiery attitude. and similarly this team has been built through the draft.

aikman and emmitt were just having fun and seems the same with Zeke. the great OL of the 90's and that's what we have and that line was built before arrival of the triplets. a deep Wr group, that although none would be a primary receiver are capable of hurting the defense and need to be accounted for. even Beasley, a smallish WR with speed is similar to Kevin Williams in the 90's. and of course Novaceck compared to Witten. both Sr. members of the teams.

and now the defense is eerie similar. the secondary was deep and this secondary seems the same way. the strength was in Woodson, a heady cover safety who Byron Jones reminds me of. and the DL, deep. people forget how we continuously rotated the DL in the 90's wearing out offenses as opposed to the Offense wearing out the defense. 4th quarters was when we closed deals and we saw some of that last year. the one missing ingredient then was a dominant pass rusher and we got Haley. seems like we are in the same place and trying to swing for the fences with Taco Charlton.

and I think this team, despite the ending grew up a lot last year. they learned to win games. they learned they are able to come from behind and win. they learned they can close games. they started to believe in themselves. and we lost in the playoffs in 91, to Detroit. a team we had faced earlier in the year. the team grew up in that playoff year.

Does this guarantee a superbowl appearance, or win this coming year? no. playoffs are playoffs. there are no guarantees and plus this is the salary cap era, the all teams are equal era. but I can't help to see the uncanny similarities between the two team and how they were put together.

and the last point is on garrett, which I am sure will stir emotions. Johnson was a geat coach, but he also had a great staff. great coordinators, Turner, Butch Davis, Dave Wandstedd, a lot of whom went on to become head coaches, although not seeing the same success, they were great coordinators. Johnson was more of a manager, maestro than involved in game planning, play calling, etc. he put his staff together and he trusted them. He managed the team culture, the vision, players and made sure it was all about competition and football.

Garrett is in similar position, he has two former head coaches, who didn't succeed as head coaches, but were great coordinators. he is now more of a manager and maestro. He has learned to trust his coaching staff, has created a vision and build a culture around competition and football. We should expect that, as he played and learned under Johnson.

hopefully, this team learned from their playoff loss last year and will show the ability to get over the hump and bring home the 6th trophy. there is just this feeling about this team. they are just having fun playing football.

The similarities stop with the offense. The defense was head and shoulders better then the one we have now and Jimmy Johnson and the hapless Garrett are simply not comparable on any level.

 

[CowboyRoy]

And a head coach.

 

[mattjames2010]

Great offensive line with an RB and QB with upside. That's where it ends.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Great offensive line with an RB and QB with upside. That's where it ends.

people forget the 91 team's defense was 17th in the league giving up 19.5 pts/game and almost 320 yds/game. it wasn't dominant until 92, where they made the big leap. it just so happened that in 92 we got Charles haley and that kind of rounded out the defense.

again, similarities, not equalities. its a big difference. and we don't have a "Charles Haley". and its a big missing ingredient.

obviously this team needs to get over the hump and win a superbowl. its not easy. but right now they feel like the 91 team.

 

[mattjames2010]

people forget the 91 team's defense was 17th in the league giving up 19.5 pts/game and almost 320 yds/game. it wasn't dominant until 92, where they made the big leap. it just so happened that in 92 we got Charles haley and that kind of rounded out the defense.

again, similarities, not equalities. its a big difference. and we don't have a "Charles Haley". and its a big missing ingredient.

obviously this team needs to get over the hump and win a superbowl. its not easy. but right now they feel like the 91 team.

Our defense in 91 had a few pieces we got in a great train robbery of 89 and then the draft of 91 that you could point to that had high potential. We also took advantage of a FA system that is different than now.

This defense is full of far too many question marks for me to say it's anywhere near or ever will be near one of the greatest teams in NFL history. The expectations right now, based on what we have, should be our QB continues to grow, Zeke stays healthy and consistently produces, and HOPE our D is middle of the road again because they sure as hell aren't elite.

I need to be able to point to players and compare to what was happening in 1991 (again, a lot of that is hindsight and revisionist "feelings") for me to say it compares.

 

[Verdict]

there is an uncanny similarities between this team and the team of the 90's and how it was built. obviously in the 90's we didn't have salary cap to deal with and trades were more frequent (and more willing partners), but Johnson completely turned over the roster and built a deep, talented young team through the draft. even down to the players and positions. I am stating the obvious, but aikman, emmitt....dak zeke. a brash experienced WR in Irvin and suddenly Bryant is the sr. member of the trio with the passion and fiery attitude. and similarly this team has been built through the draft.

aikman and emmitt were just having fun and seems the same with Zeke. the great OL of the 90's and that's what we have and that line was built before arrival of the triplets. a deep Wr group, that although none would be a primary receiver are capable of hurting the defense and need to be accounted for. even Beasley, a smallish WR with speed is similar to Kevin Williams in the 90's. and of course Novaceck compared to Witten. both Sr. members of the teams.

and now the defense is eerie similar. the secondary was deep and this secondary seems the same way. the strength was in Woodson, a heady cover safety who Byron Jones reminds me of. and the DL, deep. people forget how we continuously rotated the DL in the 90's wearing out offenses as opposed to the Offense wearing out the defense. 4th quarters was when we closed deals and we saw some of that last year. the one missing ingredient then was a dominant pass rusher and we got Haley. seems like we are in the same place and trying to swing for the fences with Taco Charlton.

and I think this team, despite the ending grew up a lot last year. they learned to win games. they learned they are able to come from behind and win. they learned they can close games. they started to believe in themselves. and we lost in the playoffs in 91, to Detroit. a team we had faced earlier in the year. the team grew up in that playoff year.

Does this guarantee a superbowl appearance, or win this coming year? no. playoffs are playoffs. there are no guarantees and plus this is the salary cap era, the all teams are equal era. but I can't help to see the uncanny similarities between the two team and how they were put together.

and the last point is on garrett, which I am sure will stir emotions. Johnson was a geat coach, but he also had a great staff. great coordinators, Turner, Butch Davis, Dave Wandstedd, a lot of whom went on to become head coaches, although not seeing the same success, they were great coordinators. Johnson was more of a manager, maestro than involved in game planning, play calling, etc. he put his staff together and he trusted them. He managed the team culture, the vision, players and made sure it was all about competition and football.

Garrett is in similar position, he has two former head coaches, who didn't succeed as head coaches, but were great coordinators. he is now more of a manager and maestro. He has learned to trust his coaching staff, has created a vision and build a culture around competition and football. We should expect that, as he played and learned under Johnson.

hopefully, this team learned from their playoff loss last year and will show the ability to get over the hump and bring home the 6th trophy. there is just this feeling about this team. they are just having fun playing football.

Yes there are a lot of similarities between those two squads. Fredbeard is a better center than the 90s center. Martin is better than anything on the 90s line other than Larry Allen. I think Eric Williams vs Tyron is probably a wash although Tyron is more athletic.

Dak is more athletic than Aikman. Zeke is more athletic than Emmitt. Irvin was mentally stronger than Dez. We have more overall receiving talent now than the 90/s. Witten isn't as good now as Novacek was then. He has a lack of speed like he is running in quicksand.

The defensive line of the 90s had a better pedigree, but this might be the year that the current DL closes the gap. The 90s defenses had more experience but that doesn't mean that they can't play up to their level. Time will tell.

 

[viman96]

Amen. Bryant doesn't care about anything but money, sad is BS Agent thinks this wsy....Too bad about Bryant. Not very bright.

Dez read your post? And then wanted to prove you wrong?! LOL...

Watch Dez challenge the DBs before practice like Irvin used to do

 

[xwalker]

If you're bringing Williams might as well bring LA... forget Collins.

I thought about it.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

I swear I will shoot up a daycare if someone compares Garrett to Jimmy.

 

[dallasdave]

there is an uncanny similarities between this team and the team of the 90's and how it was built. obviously in the 90's we didn't have salary cap to deal with and trades were more frequent (and more willing partners), but Johnson completely turned over the roster and built a deep, talented young team through the draft. even down to the players and positions. I am stating the obvious, but aikman, emmitt....dak zeke. a brash experienced WR in Irvin and suddenly Bryant is the sr. member of the trio with the passion and fiery attitude. and similarly this team has been built through the draft.

aikman and emmitt were just having fun and seems the same with Zeke. the great OL of the 90's and that's what we have and that line was built before arrival of the triplets. a deep Wr group, that although none would be a primary receiver are capable of hurting the defense and need to be accounted for. even Beasley, a smallish WR with speed is similar to Kevin Williams in the 90's. and of course Novaceck compared to Witten. both Sr. members of the teams.

and now the defense is eerie similar. the secondary was deep and this secondary seems the same way. the strength was in Woodson, a heady cover safety who Byron Jones reminds me of. and the DL, deep. people forget how we continuously rotated the DL in the 90's wearing out offenses as opposed to the Offense wearing out the defense. 4th quarters was when we closed deals and we saw some of that last year. the one missing ingredient then was a dominant pass rusher and we got Haley. seems like we are in the same place and trying to swing for the fences with Taco Charlton.

and I think this team, despite the ending grew up a lot last year. they learned to win games. they learned they are able to come from behind and win. they learned they can close games. they started to believe in themselves. and we lost in the playoffs in 91, to Detroit. a team we had faced earlier in the year. the team grew up in that playoff year.

Does this guarantee a superbowl appearance, or win this coming year? no. playoffs are playoffs. there are no guarantees and plus this is the salary cap era, the all teams are equal era. but I can't help to see the uncanny similarities between the two team and how they were put together.

and the last point is on garrett, which I am sure will stir emotions. Johnson was a geat coach, but he also had a great staff. great coordinators, Turner, Butch Davis, Dave Wandstedd, a lot of whom went on to become head coaches, although not seeing the same success, they were great coordinators. Johnson was more of a manager, maestro than involved in game planning, play calling, etc. he put his staff together and he trusted them. He managed the team culture, the vision, players and made sure it was all about competition and football.

Garrett is in similar position, he has two former head coaches, who didn't succeed as head coaches, but were great coordinators. he is now more of a manager and maestro. He has learned to trust his coaching staff, has created a vision and build a culture around competition and football. We should expect that, as he played and learned under Johnson.

hopefully, this team learned from their playoff loss last year and will show the ability to get over the hump and bring home the 6th trophy. there is just this feeling about this team. they are just having fun playing football.

Nice write up !!!!

 

[dallasdave]

Triple hammer comes out

 

[dallasdave]

Exactly. We haven't for 2 decades. Yet we blame everyone else...

Cowboys have to dig deep and get what it takes to win !!!!