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You'll see. Kiffin loves Church, as the Cowboys already did. Thinks he can do what John Lynch did. He hand-picked Allen, who Steelers fans were really upset to lose. And Wilcox is the star in waiting. He's the only player the coaches were high-fiving over during the draft.

Enjoy Cutler. The modern version of Jeff George.

Enjoy Cutler? I am not a Bears fan, I live in the Chicago area.
 

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You'll see. Kiffin loves Church, as the Cowboys already did. Thinks he can do what John Lynch did. He hand-picked Allen, who Steelers fans were really upset to lose. And Wilcox is the star in waiting. He's the only player the coaches were high-fiving over during the draft.

Enjoy Cutler. The modern version of Jeff George.

To be fair.. i don't think there is any way we can say we have "good" safeties yet.

Yes, everyone seems to love Church.. but he hasn't proven anything on the field yet.

Allen was a backup on the Steelers last year, who only got to start because of injury, and in his last go round on Kiffin's team, he was benched by him.

I think it will be a servicable tandem, but i wouldn't call them good just yet.
 

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I have to say I'm pretty happy with the current situation at Safety and I think the Cowboys have added young players who will help make the position stronger as they gain more experience. I think Allen experience will help cut down on the confusion since he does understand the system and is a good player.

I agree we have some good young talent there. Im excited to see what a combo of Matty J and Wilcox could do together in a year or two if Matt can keep himself on the field.
 

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I have to say I'm pretty happy with the current situation at Safety and I think the Cowboys have added young players who will help make the position stronger as they gain more experience. I think Allen experience will help cut down on the confusion since he does understand the system and is a good player.

I really want to understand what you are excited about. I feel, that comparisions are usually accurate, and you occasionally have an outlier.

For example: Players that are 2-sport athletes who pick baseball, then comeback and want to play in the NFL never are successful(Hutchinson/Hensen), but the outlier is Bo Jackson. Or players that go from offense to defense, never really become anything more than average, with an exception of a Mark Tunei. The problem is, is that they are few and far between.

So with Wilcox, I believe who played RB and switched to safety, Chruch who is coming off a devastating injury, and Allen who is a journeyman on the wrong side of 30, and was a backup with the Steelers, can you explain what you are happy with?
 

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I would.. what was i supposed to see in there to say otherwise?

I didn't see confident listed as a synonym at all.. for obvious reasons.

I saw self-confident as a related word. when things are "completely different", they would show up as near antonyms, not related words.
 

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I really want to understand what you are excited about. I feel, that comparisions are usually accurate, and you occasionally have an outlier.

For example: Players that are 2-sport athletes who pick baseball, then comeback and want to play in the NFL never are successful(Hutchinson/Hensen), but the outlier is Bo Jackson. Or players that go from offense to defense, never really become anything more than average, with an exception of a Mark Tunei. The problem is, is that they are few and far between.

So with Wilcox, I believe who played RB and switched to safety, Chruch who is coming off a devastating injury, and Allen who is a journeyman on the wrong side of 30, and was a backup with the Steelers, can you explain what you are happy with?

Church is playing well so this crap about he is coming off and injury? Yes and so what he is showing he is ready to go. Allen he has had a good camp and a very steady player who brings experiance as for Wilcox again he is showing it in practice and game that he can play the position at this level. I'm happy because of what I see not some nay sayer or critics comments like he played offense and now defense how can you be happy it is by watching him here and now claiming Hutchinson or Henson is rediculas they had their chance to show they failed Wilcox is showing he can. Not every situation is the same you take it individually each player is his own man not some fricken clone based on what someone else did or did not do.
 

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Church is playing well so this crap about he is coming off and injury? Yes and so what he is showing he is ready to go. Allen he has had a good camp and a very steady player who brings experiance as for Wilcox again he is showing it in practice and game that he can play the position at this level. I'm happy because of what I see not some nay sayer or critics comments like he played offense and now defense how can you be happy it is by watching him here and now claiming Hutchinson or Henson is rediculas they had their chance to show they failed Wilcox is showing he can. Not every situation is the same you take it individually each player is his own man not some fricken clone based on what someone else did or did not do.

I think, other than safety and the Offense, we agree that the rest of the D is set up to be successful. I think track records give you more of an accurate prediction of what is going to happen than not.
 

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In common usage for our purposes, I would say "confident" means a player knows he can do the job and is ready to go out and prove it, while "smug" would mean he feels he has already shown what he can do and doesn't need to prove anything.
 

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I saw self-confident as a related word. when things are "completely different", they would show up as near antonyms, not related words.

We're really getting technical now.. lol.

It really isn't that big a deal.

Self confidence and self satisfaction are two different things, imo.

I'll leave it at that.
 

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In common usage for our purposes, I would say "confident" means a player knows he can do the job and is ready to go out and prove it, while "smug" would mean he feels he has already shown what he can do and doesn't need to prove anything.
I would say, although they are very similar, smug takes on a negative connotation, but they are not completely different.
 

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I would say, although they are very similar, smug takes on a negative connotation, but they are not completely different.

I think and example of Smug:

Mike Martz thinking he could make any offense successful with his system, and not realizing you need certain players for it to be successful.

Where as, anyone who has implemented the Tampa-2 knows you need the right personal to make your system successful.

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After watching the pre season games the thing that stood out to me, something that we really haven't had, is a healthy Miles Austin AND Dez Bryant. If these two guys stay on the field, our offense will be hard to stop, very hard. I know that sounds simplistic but if these two guys stay healthy we can overcome whatever our Defense lacks. I guess I forgot just how good Miles is when fully healthy......
 

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I don't want the players to think they are nothing.. i want them to think this team is nothing. I want them to be confident, but realize that if you want respect, you need to go out and earn it. Just because you had a good preseason means nothing. If you sit around all satisfied, thinking you've accomplished something already.. you're going to be in for a rough season.

We need to go out there and not ever be satisfied with what we've accomplished.. not anytime this year, until we've gone all the way and won it all.

Jerry has been smug for years about this team.. Rob Ryan brought that "smugness" and "arrogance" to this defense supposedly.. how'd that all work out for us?

Around this time of year, hope always springs eternal for our Cowboys, which is why I remain cautiously optimistic. I will say, of all the encouraging sights we saw Saturday night, the reoccurence of 3rd and 3 was refreshing. Too many times we say drives prematurely ended as a result of poor run blocking, stupid penalties, etc in 2012. The question is rather or not that play will carry over into the regular season. Here's hoping...
 

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This is the first time in a number of years that I actually think things are starting to fall into their designed places. Now if we can get a little luck from the injury gods and have a healthy roster for the season, I foresee only good thing happening to this club.
 

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I think, other than safety and the Offense, we agree that the rest of the D is set up to be successful. I think track records give you more of an accurate prediction of what is going to happen than not.

Some one elses succuess or failure has nothing to do with the success or failure of another. Hutchinson and Henson may have played baseball and failed John Elway also played baseball and was a success. Every person is not the same you judge each man on his own merits not the merits of others. Wilcox started off on offense in college he was moved to defense where he had very good success and thus far has done well. He has a lot to learn but the guy is more than willing to learn and has an instict that you can't teach.
 

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I just don't think im on the same page with some of you on what ya'll think "smug" means.

A smug player, to me, would imply someone who makes a good play and then thinks they can coast the rest of the game. Someone who thinks their level of play is good enough and they don't need to work hard every day, every second to get better. Someone who doesn't think there's always something they can improve on in their game, etc..

Players like Sean Lee are guys that we all want because they are NEVER smug, they are NEVER satisfied, and they know they can always get better at something and improve themselves as a player day after day, no matter how many Pro Bowls or All Pro awards they win.

Roy, I'm not taking sides in anything. I thought I understood both initial posts and from my perspective of that agreed with you both. Mox nix.
 

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I think and example of Smug:

Mike Martz thinking he could make any offense successful with his system, and not realizing you need certain players for it to be successful.

Where as, anyone who has implemented the Tampa-2 knows you need the right personal to make your system successful.

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A good coach adjust the system to fit the personnel. I think what Kiffin is brining to the defense will be successful having guys flying to the ball using the team speed we have on defense using very active LB which I think we will see a lot in our blitzs
 
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