Skins Fans starting to see the light: Romo vs JC

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yennor24;1638600 said:
whats funny is nobody was saying the Giants Defense sucked before we played them and put up 45, yet The Colts put up 40 on the Saints and I dont hear people saying that the Saints D sucks....

Just remind Skins fans that while their team had a good game against that "sucky" defense at the end of last season, their numbers weren't NEAR as good as what the Cowboys racked up on them Sunday night...

The Boys gained 478 yards on 55 plays (8.7 yards per play), the Skins gained 393 on 61 (6.4 yards per play)...
 

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redster;1638714 said:
Even a monkey as a quarterback could score 40 points against the putrid Giants defense. Guess what, Campbell was playing excellent in the final game against the giants as well last year. Sure, we lost,and he threw one interception, but he threw for 200+ yards.

220 yards... compared to the 354 that Romo put on them...

And he put up 28 points on that putrid defense... does that mean he's not good enough to be called a "monkey"??

LOL...

The reason Romo struggled late last year was because people realized what he could do and couldn't do.

The reason he struggled last year was he started turning the ball over... even then, there were games where he played well enough that the Boys certainly SHOULD have won based on his play, but the defense let them down...

And if the league now has this "book" on Romo, how do you explain him having his best game ever for the Cowboys Sunday night?? Guess the Giants didn't buy one of those "books"... :D


BTW, I was listening to Gibbs talking about Mark Rypien, and to paraphrase, he mentioned that Rypien threw beautiful deep passes, but his medium and short passes were just horrible. Campbell, as far as I can tell, seems to throw good deep passes. His short/medium passes are suspect, no doubt about it.

So why then is Gibbs not tailoring his passing offense around Campbell's strong suit, rather than trying to turn him into a black, right handed version of Mark Brunell?? It doesn't make sense, to draft a QB in the first round that you KNOW isn't particularly accurate on the short stuff, but is rather at his best when he takes shots downfield, then try to turn him into a dink and dunker... it's taking a round peg and trying to fit it into a square hole...

So, either Gibbs is a senile idiot who's lost his coaching magic, or there is another, tangible, logical reason why he's doing that... I hold that there IS a reason-- he and his staff don't have confidence in their offensive line as a pass-blocking unit, so they're more or less afraid to have Jason use too many 5 or 7 step drops in the course of a game... that theory was reinforced when I saw the way the Skins took the air out of the ball after Campbell's second int early in the 4th quarter... at that point, they'd been a rather balanced offense, 22 rushes and 18 passes, and they'd even let Jason take his shots downfield... but after the int, it was 5 passes and 19 rushes the rest of the way... 4 of those 5 passes were of the very short variety (completions of 2, 8 and 10 yards), the other was that fluke Hail Mary at the end of regulation...

Yup, it sure looked to me like the Skins lost confidence in Campbell, and decided they weren't gonna let him lose the game...

Also, let's face it, Gibbs hasn't really relied on elite quarterbacks to win superbowls. Only Dallas needs elite quarterbacks. We have hardly ever had elite quarterbacks.

Those quarterbacks weren't elite, but they had one thing in common-- they were downfield passers, not dink and dunkers... Campbell is best suited to be a downfield passer, but the Skins aren't letting him do what comes most naturally to him...

I still think that Jason Campbell can be a nice QB in the NFL, but I doubt it'll happen with the Skins... I think he'll wind up not developing rapidly enough to suit them, and going on to another team... if he goes to one that employs a vertical passing game, and has a quality offensive line to give him the time to let patterns develop downfield, he might well be fairly successful before his career is over...
 

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redster;1638714 said:
Also, let's face it, Gibbs hasn't really relied on elite quarterbacks to win superbowls. Only Dallas needs elite quarterbacks. We have hardly ever had elite quarterbacks.

Wow, Gibbs must be a real MAGICIAN... first, you Skins fans tell us all offseason that he doesn't need a good defensive line to win, now you're telling us he doesn't need a good quarterback...

But he hasn't had a good defensive line these last few years, or an elite quarterback, and he doesn't seem to be winning a whole lot...

Curiouser and curiouser... perhaps you and your fellow Skins fans are putting JUST a wee bit too much faith in the old coach...
 

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redster;1638731 said:
Well, guess what, if we had the type of defense we had in 2005, we would have won more games than we lost.

And if my aunt had testicles, she'd be my uncle...
 

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yennor24;1638796 said:
I've heard all you skins fans say that about the 400 yds on Miami and yet you went to overtime with them...

When the final play of regulation was snapped, the Skins' offense had 288 yards, on 53 plays... then they hit on a fluke, garbage Hail Mary for 54 yards, and in overtime went something like 58 yards...

Yeah, that 400 yards that Skins fans keep woofing about is mostly smoke and mirrors... for 99 per cent of regulation, their offense was kept effectively in check by that Miami defense...
 

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redster;1638714 said:
From what I can see, Romo throws short to medium passes. His deep passes are extremely inaccurate. Hell, he doesn't even have the arm to throw deep passes.

And yet, of the quarterbacks who threw at least 300 passes in 2006, and had a quarterback rating of 75 or better, only three of them completed more passes for 40 yards or more than Romo did... Tony hit on 9 plays of 40 plus in 337 attempts, 1 in every 37.6 attempts... Drew Brees hit on 1 in every 30.8, Carson Palmer hit on 1 in every 34.6, Donovan McNabb hit on 1 in every 22.6, best in the NFL... Campbell didn't make this list because he didn't throw 300 passes, but he hit on 1 forty yarder for every 69.0 attempts (207 attempts, 3 completions of 40 plus)...

Peyton Manning hit on 1 in every 79.6 attempts, Marc Bulger 1 in 58.8, Phillip Rivers 1 in 92.0, Tom Brady 1 in 64.5, JP Losman 1 in 42.9, Jake Delhomme 1 in 61.6, Chad Pennington 1 in 53.9, Steve Mcnair 1 in 156.0, David Carr 1 in 147.3, Jon Kitna 1 in 198.7, Eli Manning 1 in 65.3, Matt Hasselbeck 1 in 74.2, Michael Vick 1 in 48.5, Ben Roethlisberger 1 in 69.9 and Alex Smith 1 in 53.3... Romo hit on more deep passes than all of these passers...

So, of the top 20 rated QBs with over 300 attempts, Romo is the 4th MOST effective passer when it comes to throwing the ball deep...

Once again, you don't seem to be able to see what's happening with any clarity at all... :D
 

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BigDFan5;1639027 said:
I love this post

Romo goes for 345 and 5 TDs. wins a game and he has no arm and is not that good


Campbell goes for 200 yards and an INT in a loss and he played excellent

It's called Commanders Logic, perhaps the greatest example of the oxymoron the world has ever seen...
 

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Bizwah;1639053 said:
I'm in awe......

I can't believe anyone could look at Romo's performance and not consider it to be very good at least.

I can't believe all the "dink and dunk" crud the Skins' fans are throwing out.

What about the first completion to TO? That occured 18 yards downfield on the opposite hash.

What about the slant to Hurd? That pass was on a rope 15 yards down the field.

Dink and dunk is what WCOs do. Garrett's offense requires downfield passing.

Our RBs caught all of two passes in the game, hardly the hallmark of a dink and dunk offense... out TEs (in the form of Jason Witten) DID catch six balls, but most of them were actually downfield, as evidenced by Jason's 19.3 yards per reception average...

Romo had completions of 51, 47, 38, 29 and 25 among his 15 completions... that's a LONG way from "dink and dunk"...
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1639187 said:
IF...pigs would fly out of my backside I wonder if that skins fan would eat the pork chops made from them.

Naw, they'd just lick them clean...
 
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