Skins Want Gruden/Cowboys Interested In Holmgren??

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Here's the article with the Dallas blurbs.


http://www.sfexaminer.com/spor...8-64019622.html
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Rick Snider » Sources: Gruden atop Snyder's wish list

Examiner Staff Writer
October 13, 2009

Former Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden is on top of Commanders owner Dan Snyder's list to be the team's next head coach, according to Examiner columnist Rick Snider. (Getty Images)
Jon Gruden appears to be the frontrunner in Dan Snyder's offseason search for his seventh coach in 11 seasons.

Sources close to Snyder say he began considering options to replace coach Jim Zorn after losing to Detroit on Sept. 27; a victory that ended the Lions' 19-game losing streak. The Commanders loss to Carolina on Sunday was its second in three games to a winless team. It followed a turbulent week when Snyder hired an "offensive consultant" to give Zorn another "fresh set of eyes" on a beleaguered offense.

Snyder has not contacted Gruden, say sources, but he believes the former Oakland-Tampa Bay coach might be the best fit among five Super Bowl winning coaches without jobs. Gruden currently is a Monday Night Football commentator who arrives in Washington for the Commanders-Philadelphia Eagles game on Oct. 26. Snyder and Gruden could meet during routine pregame research for the MNF program.

Meanwhile, Snyder's interest seems to have tempered for former Denver coach Mike Shanahan, once considered the frontrunner because of his long relationship with Commanders executive vice president Vinny Cerrato. Sources won't rule out Shanahan, but the latter's demand for more front office control makes it a less-likely hire. NFL sources say the two have discussed the job.

Sources close to Gruden said he plans to resume a coaching job search at season's end in his first break since becoming a college assistant in 1986. Gruden spent five years at three colleges before one season on offensive coordinator Mike Holmgren's San Francisco staff in 1990. After coaching receivers at the University of Pittsburgh in 1991, Gruden worked three years as a Green Bay assistant before becoming Philadelphia's offensive coordinator from 1995-97.

Gruden became the Oakland Raiders head coach in 1998, reaching the playoffs three of four seasons under controversial owner Al Davis. Gruden then coached Tampa Bay for seven years, wining Super Bowl XXXVIII in his first season with the Buccaneers.

After missing the playoffs four of his final six years, including finishing 9-7 last season, Gruden was fired with three years remaining on his contract. He has since declined an offer to become the University of Oregon's offensive coordinator.

Sources close to Gruden say he's interested in the Commanders because of Snyder's free spending. Gruden felt undermined by Tampa Bay owners because they were $45 million under the salary cap in his final season. The NFL won't have a salary cap next year, leaving Snyder to spend freely for the free agents that Gruden prefers.

Snyder is seeking is a candidate willing to leave major personnel decisions to Cerrato and the owner. NFL sources close to Gruden said that's not an expected deal breaker.
"When the guy has worked in the worst environment in football in Al Davis, he'll not see this as a problem," an NFL source said. "Gruden really wants to coach."

Snyder also has considered former Pittsburgh coach Bill Cowher and Holmgren, who won a title with Green Bay. The final available Super Bowl-winning coach - Tony Dungy - is expected to remain retired after leaving Indianapolis this year.

Cowher has long been Snyder's first choice, but NFL sources say the Steelers coach turned down the Commanders in 2007 before Zorn was hired and prefers to remain in broadcasting . [B]Holmgren teased interest in an East Coast job and is expected to be pursued by several teams, including Dallas.[/B]

[B]Indeed, Snyder's aggressive pursuit of coaches in coming weeks is partly to beat Dallas owner Jerry Jones to the top candidate should the Cowboys part with Wade Phillips.[/B]

Snyder has learned to be more proactive following the unexpected departures of Steve Spurrier (2003) and Joe Gibbs (2007). Snyder was completely surprised by Gibbs' retirement despite the latter indicating it in the weeks following Sean Taylor's murder. Gibbs quit two days after being eliminated in the opening round of the playoffs. Snyder met with a series of candidates before promoting Zorn from offensive coordinator.

Snyder was ready for the 2002 search after one season with Marty Schottenheimer, who also was team president. Snyder disliked not participating in personnel decisions for the only time since buying the team in 1999. A heated argument developed between Schottenheimer and Snyder's then minority partner, Fred Drasner, after one member of the coaching staff wouldn't let Drasner use a team vehicle. This, coupled with an 0-5 start, saw Snyder preparing for a switch in September. Schottenheimer was dismissed despite finishing 8-8.
 

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I think Holmgren is probably a nice guy.
I dont want him for a coach. What gets lost in the sauce is that he could have won more with Favre and he didnt - BECAUSE he could not control Favre.

So why not bring him in to CONTROL Favre Jr?
This man was wiped out the last year he was coaching. He just seemed to fulfill the obligation.

IF he was to become HC I would seriously give this team a break. Not one of those I quit watching the Cowboys rah rah nonsense. It would be Jerry pulling his nonsense and hiring a name coach and probably limiting what he does/controls blah blah blah.

A young gun is the way to go IMO. New, FRESH, raw, NOT AFRAID to upset the apple cart ala Denver. I laugh at all who laughed at Josh when he became HC. I saw some real genius in what he was doing. He ESTABLISHED himself and BOSS from jumpstreet.
 

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Gruden would actually be a good fit for the skins. He likes veteran rosters.
 

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This is going to be an interesting off-season for coaching changes.

With all these Super Bowl-winning coaches out available, there could be more firings than usual.

Shanahan
Holmgren
Cowher
Gruden
Billick

I see Dallas, Washington, Buffalo, Carolina, and Oakland making changes. Other possibilities could be San Diego, Chicago, Houston or even Tennessee (I could see Fisher resigning and taking a couple of years off ... I think he's the longest tenured coach in the NFL?).

Mortensen insists that coordinators such as Mike Zimmer, Mike Nolan and Mike Mularkey could be candidates.

Somewhere, Jim Fassel is yelling, "What about me?"
 

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I'd prefer Gruden over Holmgren. I'd prefer Cowher over anyone. We need toughness. We also need someone to politely ask Jerry to stay upstairs.
 

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If Dallas has a coaching change Holmgren would not be a big shocker. He has a very good relationship with Jerry already.
 

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I'm not worrying about who it might be till this season is over. No point in even worrying about that anytime soon cause there will be zero changes before the offseason anyway.
 

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Meanwhile, Snyder's interest seems to have tempered for former Denver coach Mike Shanahan, once considered the frontrunner because of his long relationship with Commanders executive vice president Vinny Cerrato. Sources won't rule out Shanahan, but the latter's demand for more front office control makes it a less-likely hire. NFL sources say the two have discussed the job.

That cinches it. Shanahan or bust. :)
 

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YoMick;3013887 said:
I think Holmgren is probably a nice guy.
I dont want him for a coach. What gets lost in the sauce is that he could have won more with Favre and he didnt - BECAUSE he could not control Favre.

So why not bring him in to CONTROL Favre Jr?
This man was wiped out the last year he was coaching. He just seemed to fulfill the obligation.

IF he was to become HC I would seriously give this team a break. Not one of those I quit watching the Cowboys rah rah nonsense. It would be Jerry pulling his nonsense and hiring a name coach and probably limiting what he does/controls blah blah blah.

A young gun is the way to go IMO. New, FRESH, raw, NOT AFRAID to upset the apple cart ala Denver. I laugh at all who laughed at Josh when he became HC. I saw some real genius in what he was doing. He ESTABLISHED himself and BOSS from jumpstreet.
You were the only one, beecause no one in Denver believe it, no one here, nor anyone on ESPN.....
 

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BraveHeartFan;3013926 said:
I'm not worrying about who it might be till this season is over. No point in even worrying about that anytime soon cause there will be zero changes before the offseason anyway.

I think anticipating is a more accurate word.
 

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NextGenBoys;3013950 said:
No coach over, or near 55 please.

It's a young mans game.

That is why young men play it, coaches are not there to play the game.
 
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Chris in SoCal;3013917 said:
I'd prefer Gruden over Holmgren. I'd prefer Cowher over anyone. We need toughness. We also need someone to politely ask Jerry to stay upstairs.

Cowher would be the best fit because he would provide the toughness and accountability the team sorely lacks. Plus he's a 3-4 specialist and knows the defense as well as anybody. The problem is that Cowher wants to stay close to home and is a perfect fit for the Panthers job when (if) it becomes available.

Holmgren, Shanahan and Gruden are all West Coast coaches. And I don't believe we have the personnel at OL, WR or QB that would run a successful West Coast offense.
 

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Holmgren is probably the best we can get. He would've been a great hire 10-15 years ago. Now, he'll be just another aging retread who you'll get 5 years or less out of, at best. And, who's best years are behind him.

Shanahan really didn't do anything once Elway left and proved to be a terrible peronnel man. I can't imagine teaming him up with Jerry in the warroom during the draft. :eek:

I have mixed feelings about Gruden, but I'd prefer him over the first two mainly because he's younger and has more energy.

Out of this bunch I've always like Cowher the best. I still do, but it keeps getting tempered the further we continue to get away from his previous coaching stint.

If I were a betting man I'd put my money on Holmgren. And then in 3-5 years we'll get to do it all over again.
 

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It'll be Parcells and Wade 2.0.

He'll be here for 3-4 years, and then we'll get to start the coaching search all over again.

Apparently, Jerry's giving out Cowboys coaching bachelors degrees.

Doomsday101;3013921 said:
If Dallas has a coaching change Holmgren would not be a big shocker. He has a very good relationship with Jerry already.
 

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I would take cowher first and i bet we can have him if jerry wants to change the coach.the first thing cowher is going to do is dump garrett.
 
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