So Fellas, Do You Think Jerry Trades Both 1s For Mcfadden

[CATCH17]

Oh, and what shiznit(literally) Bo Jackson and Herschel walker were in the NFL. Great examples there CATCH

Bo Jackson was on his way to possibly being one of the best ever if not the best ever.

 

[iceberg]

Bo got hurt. He was every bit as advertised beforehand, and all picks high or low carry the same risk of injury.

And heck, Herschel should be in the Ring of Honor for the valuable service he provided this team by being traded...

great. but it's still a couple of "can't miss!!!" players who in the end didn't live up to their billing. odd use of players to illustrate the "other" point.

 

[dbair1967]

As you can see, I offered you the chance to prove your claim yet in both of your responces neither of you even attempted to support your claim only boldly proclaimed I had no idea what I was talking about.

If you can't support your claim, then your claim has no credence.

dude, you obviously have some issue with Mcfadden and some man love for Peterson...but its also apparent you've never watched McFadden more than a play or two because you have no clue what your talking about with him

David

 

[Da Hammer]

Trade for more picks???????


We are at the point where we need quality, not quantity

i agree why take solid players when we have plenty of those already when we could get potentially a future superstar for the next 8 to 10 years in Darren McFadden! Barber and McFadden would DESTROY defenses for a very long time!

only way i would say no is if we could maybe get a shutdown CB with the 1st pick from da browns assuming its not in the top 4 but i dont see a lot of depth right now or true superstar at CB right now...

 

[Needabuzz]

Even though Cleveland has won two home games so far my guess is they won't win enough to make their pick very low in the first place. I feel like the Cowboys are looking at a top five pick without trading. Cleveland won't be favorite in any of the rest of thier games the rest of the season. Yeah they may win one here or there but that pick with be very high without having to package two picks to get up there.

If that happens then its just a matter of what teams pick higher and what they need. Hell who knows maybe McFadden falls into the Cowboys hands. Then they could trade their second first round pick and J. Jones for more picks where they can work on the secondary and on getting younger receivers.

 

[Nors]

No,

We already have MB3.

Can someone post the link of Patrick Willis running McFadden down. He is not going to be so dominant on Sundays - JMO. Not worth two #1'S

 

[Da Hammer]

No,

We already have MB3.

Can someone post the link of Patrick Willis running McFadden down. He is not going to be so dominant on Sundays - JMO. Not worth two #1'S

There is no shame is being run down by Willis. Willis is an absolute beast who will also be a dominant player on Sundays for many years to come like RunDMC!

 

[Rack]

No,

We already have MB3.

Can someone post the link of Patrick Willis running McFadden down. He is not going to be so dominant on Sundays - JMO. Not worth two #1'S

A college kid won't be as dominant in the NFL?!?!

OMG WHAT A FREAKIN' REVELATION!

 

[JerryFan]

Agreed. In fact I would say Peterson and McFadden are identical except McFadden can do more. I'd say McFadden is more agile too.

Plus McFadden is running great against SEC defenses that are stacked and have been stacked since he got there.

I think McFadden is a stud also, but Peterson is running against NFL teams with no passing game. The SEC is a good conference, but this is this NFL. Just a bad comparison IMO, because McFadden has a lot about him you can argue.

 

[RomoIsBack]

they was talking about that on the ticket it aint worth it to me

 

[Zaxor]

But no one is going to criticize or fault the Cowboys for jumping up to take a running back most if not al have as the consensus No. 1 back.

You act as if teams have hindsight when they make their picks.



With all due respect, those statistics are meaningless without knowing how many players of each position are drafted and how high they're drafted.

For example, if we're talking about safeties, safeties are rarely selected in the first round, unless they're considered exceptional safeties. So, of course, their bust rating is lower. That says more about how teams view safeties moreso than if you select a safety in the first round he has less chances of being a bust.

first off I am not at all concerned with critisim from others nor do I worry about meeting their expectations on draft day...to me that is just asking for trouble...

second according to the article (without re-reading it) their study went back to 1996...so without exact numbers it is safe to bet that many RB's were taken and many CB's & DE's were taken...so out of the many RB's taken half of them fail while out of the many CB's & DE's taken less than a third fail I think knowing the exact number is of little importance if it has been conducted over a 10 year period (don't you).

no hindsight is required certain positions are more likely to bust than others and trading away 2 1st's probably a 2nd and maybe even next years 1st to get McFadden is madness

 

[NickZepp]

Do we have a bad running game to where we need McFadden? No. I think we can get better at DT(get young depth there), WR(depth mostly) maybe a safety or OT(Flo ain't getting any younger)

We have a really good back in Barber and Thompson could be a good young back. I'll take McFadden if he's there with one of our picks but we don't need him that bad.

 

[Rack]

Do we have a bad running game to where we need McFadden? No. I think we can get better at DT(get young depth there), WR(depth mostly) maybe a safety or OT(Flo ain't getting any younger)

We have a really good back in Barber and Thompson could be a good young back. I'll take McFadden if he's there with one of our picks but we don't need him that bad.

We're gonna need another RB next year and Thompson is nothing more then a solid kick returner.


And we do have Ratliff, Ferguson, and Tank returning at DT/NG.

 

[wileedog]

And we do have Ratliff, Ferguson, and Tank returning at DT/NG.

Yeah, if Ratliff continues to play well I don't see the need to blow a #1 on a DT at all.

Especially if Tank doesn't blow up.

 

[NickZepp]

And we do have Ratliff, Ferguson, and Tank returning at DT/NG.

Exactly we need another DT. Ferg is a great NT but I would rather have a younger guy backing him up. I don't think Tank is here for more than a year. Ratliff isn't a full time NT.

As far as RB goes who says we don't re-sign Jones? He's a solid back. We don't need to trade everything to get McFadden. If he is there at our 6th or 7th spot we'll get him.

 

[iceberg]

Exactly we need another DT. Ferg is a great NT but I would rather have a younger guy backing him up. I don't think Tank is here for more than a year. Ratliff isn't a full time NT.

As far as RB goes who says we don't re-sign Jones? He's a solid back. We don't need to trade everything to get McFadden. If he is there at our 6th or 7th spot we'll get him.

DT can be a spot of need - that will depend soley on Tank. if he does well, why would he move on? if not, then yes it jumps up in need to probably over CB.

i don't think we'll resign jones but i can see phillips going after turner from SD.

ratliff may not be a full time DT but he's doing a hell of a job so far.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

With the present state of our team, it would be alot better to get one star, rather than two ordinary players. That said, we don't know where the picks will be, but our pick will probably be low, so our chances of a great player there is slimmer.

In 05, we needed the 2 picks more, even though we ended up with Spears as one of them, lol. Now, since we are in a much better position as a team, we need a guy who can make more of an immediate impact, not some guy sitting next to Carp every Sunday.

 

[dogberry]

Great Blue North has McFadden going to Atlanta in the fourth spot.

 

[iceberg]

With the present state of our team, it would be alot better to get one star, rather than two ordinary players. That said, we don't know where the picks will be, but our pick will probably be low, so our chances of a great player there is slimmer.

In 05, we needed the 2 picks more, even though we ended up with Spears as one of them, lol. Now, since we are in a much better position as a team, we need a guy who can make more of an immediate impact, not some guy sitting next to Carp every Sunday.

who said we'd get another carp? our 1st round pick from last year is starting, isn't he? so maybe it *is* possible to get a starter in the 2nd 1/2 of the 1st round and even later. spencer by all accounts looks to be an impact type of player.

we have a superstar / leader on O in romo. that's obvious. we don't have the same on the D side of the ball. we sure could use one but i don't want to draft another LB, certainly not in the 1st. : )

we traded (2) picks at one point for an "impact player" and got galloway. one of the players seattle got with one of our picks was...shaun alexaneder.

i'm not sold mcfadden is worth a rickey williams type deal. speaking of which, that was "sure fire" too, wasn't it? name 1 team that would do it again.

 

[vicjagger]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670

According to "The Chart", the picks, as you have projected them, may not be enough to be packaged for McFadden, unless you can get him @ #4.

Pick # 32 is worth 590 points. Pick 12 is worth 1200, for a total of 1790, or roughly equivalent to pick # 4 (1800).

Getting to pick 3 would require around #6 & #32; to get #2, would require #3 & #32.

A previous poster hypothesized picks 15 & 25. They could be packaged for a 5, maybe a 4.

If you think you have to get to #1 to get McFadden, it's probably going to take morth than it's worth. I'd rather have the picks.