So is Jerry a good GM?

[Prime21]

im a big fan of Tom Cisizikowski (spelling?), he knows what hes doing when it comes to the draft. Jerry will become more and more of a figurehead as the years go on. Tom and Stephen Jones will be more important when it comes to personel decisions.

 

[Clove]

I'll put it like this. You give me 14 or 15 years, I'll managed to do a couple of good things that make players happy.

No other GM would have a job this long with his play off record.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Isn't Jerry Jones the only GM in the entire World of Sports that hasn't won a Play-Off game in 12 years?

If he isn't surely you realize that the majority were fired long ago. Most GMs in Professional Sports have about a 4-7 year window and that's if they are lucky.

It doesn't matter what you think, Jerry Jones has proven cosistantly to be atleast one of the worst GMs in the NFL for over the last Decade. If nothing else, simply because of his medleing with the team which undermines the leadership of the Head Coach.

 

[big dog cowboy]

He's the main reason our dynasty crumbled in the 90's

I disagree. The salary cap killed us.

 

[slomoxn]

This is more true than most will admit. And it's actually been around 20 years.

I never believed Jerry operated as a traditional GM. Always felt he left player evaluation to his subordinates.
Does anyone here really believe Jerry is or will be reviewing film of division II OL prospects the team is considering in later part of the 2010 draft?

He's an overseer and is intimately involved with these decisions. He does have final say, but at the end of the day those "decisions" are simply the result of the input he receives from the scouts and coaches.

The obvious benefit of operating in this manor is that it makes him more to hire the scouts and coaches. More so than any other owner.

He evaluates talent on some level because he overrode Parcells on the Ware, Spears draft order. If he didn't know personnel he would have let Parcell take Spears first losing Ware and probably settling for that guy in SD with the roids.

 

[utrunner07]

I disagree. The salary cap killed us.

Who manages the salary cap? Firing Jimmy might have had something to do with it too...maybe..

 

[zrinkill]

Who manages the salary cap? Firing Jimmy might have had something to do with it too...maybe..

Jimmy never managed the salary cap

 

[geeter]

............ If nothing else, simply because of his medleing with the team which undermines the leadership of the Head Coach.

Totally agree.......however, JJ is willing to put up the $$$$$ to get a winning team

even if his $$$ hasn't gotten him one, yet!!!

 

[the truth of it all]

no, he just now has good people around him (that didnt leave) that the tuna brought in. he is still horrible.

 

[JPostSam]

a few things:

the amount of work that STEPHEN jones does as the gm goes unnoticed. you get the feeling that he has really -- and quietly -- assumed much more of that role over the past few years. i think that's a good thing, because he really seems like he has his head screwed on straight.

jerry wants to win, and he'll do what (he thinks) it takes to do it. you want that in an owner.

now, he's done it the wrong way the past few years -- TO, pacman, etc. -- but i think he is learning. i think he LOVES the fact that romo, austin, ratliff, et al., as hard-working free agents and low draft picks, are such a big part of this team. i think he really is coming around to the idea of having a bunch of boy scouts who bring their lunch pail to work every day, to use a maddenism, and keep drama out of it.

even the roy williams deal, i think that was not a flashy deal but one that seemed to suit the new cowboys way... LOTS of cowboys fans were clamoring for roy ever since college, so he'd make a good local draw. he's a big guy with something to prove, so it made sense in some ways. and he isn't the prima donna that TO is, so he does mark a change in that department as well.

i don't think roy will ever match TO's production, but i am still optimistic that he will make a solid contribution to this team. with witten, austin, the running backs, crayton and even ogletree and bennett in the mix, i don't think we're going to see roy williams get 80 catches a season. but he can be an important part of an offense that racks up 4,000+ yards of passing and 30 touchdowns through the air.

anyway, just look at the guys who have left this team the past two-three seasons and the guys who have replaced them. you've got to be happy with the way things are going.

jerry is learning. the cowboys are winning. this is not a coincidence.

 

[JPostSam]

by the way:

if 1 year of TO's brilliance was not the end-all of his time here (hello, meltdown!), then 1 year of roy williams being a dud should not be, either. let's see where this thing stands at the end of this season and how it continues in the beginning of next season before we put a final judgment on the rw11 experiment.


...no, i'm not going to make any excuses for him. he was a waste until the philly game, and i had no real appreciation for him until then. but the eagles game was an indicator of what CAN be. let's see what happens.

 

[JPostSam]

Totally agree.......however, JJ is willing to put up the $$$$$ to get a winning team

even if his $$$ hasn't gotten him one, yet!!!

actually, it got him one with deion.

but no amount of money in the world could have fixed aikman's brain (concussions) and back, or irvin's neck, or novacek's neck, or moose's neck, or kevin smith's knee, or...

yes, free agency hurt. but not nearly as much as injuries did.

 

[STSINAZ]

jerry changed 12 positions out of 27 or 28 that play most of the time in one offseason...he took big risks....is he a good gm or is he just flying by the seat of his pants? no one knows really but if we keep getting better then he will look like a genius...i HOPE he listened to his people and picked up the players he did...if he did that then we are set for the future.....if he just made changes to make them and took risks on players that by chance panned out then he wont be able to duplicate it...thats the key, we need to be able to keep duplicating it .....

 

[CATCH17]

jerry changed 12 positions out of 27 or 28 that play most of the time in one offseason...he took big risks....is he a good gm or is he just flying by the seat of his pants? no one knows really but if we keep getting better then he will look like a genius...i HOPE he listened to his people and picked up the players he did...if he did that then we are set for the future.....if he just made changes to make them and took risks on players that by chance panned out then he wont be able to duplicate it...thats the key, we need to be able to keep duplicating it .....

I think they have a certain style of player they are looking for now and that style of player is really paying off.

The only 2 guys that I could question if their heart is into it is Ken and Flo.

Flo has seemed a lot more into this year though than in the past so I hate to even throw him under the bus.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

So is Jerry a good GM?

Ummmmmm No.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Dallas is six-two after a twelve year Play-Off winning draught, if any GM has a 12 year learning curve to win a single play-off something is very wrong with that picture.

Dallas was 13-3 two years ago in the regular season and that translated into an early play-off exit while a 9-7 Giants team went on to win the Super Bowl.


Six and Two is great and I give the credit to the players who are taking this season upon themselves to raise this team to a new level.

 

[Hook'em#11]

I think Jerry gets on a good roll. Like the Cowboys do. Then his ego gets in the way and he needs to be brought back down to reallity.

Obviously, I don't know the man. But, I do know he loves this team and would do anything for this team. I do like em better as an owner, but, I know what the score is.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

The big thing Jerry learned is how to get value from troubled players or at least reduce the risk of them if they didn't work out.

Terry Glenn was a troubled player that was acquired for a 6th rounder and a low contract (at first) and worked out splendidly for the Cowboys.

Tank didn't perform up to expectations and said some things that weren't good, but he was paid fish heads and rice by NFL standards and didn't cost Dallas any draft picks.

The 'swindle' the Titans pulled off on trading Pac Man basically saw Dallas and the Titans switch 4th and 5th round picks.

Even Owens' contract was structured as such that Dallas could release him after any season and be alright. Plus, he did produce quite well on the field.

I think it's best the Cowboys avoid those controversial players for the most part because this team doesn't handle distractions well, but the cost against the cap for these guys has worked out or not hurt Dallas very badly.






YAKUZA

 

[SultanOfSix]

a few things:

the amount of work that STEPHEN jones does as the gm goes unnoticed. you get the feeling that he has really -- and quietly -- assumed much more of that role over the past few years. i think that's a good thing, because he really seems like he has his head screwed on straight.

I'd like to be optimistic that Stephen knows what he is doing, or has taken a larger role in the past few years, because he's most likely going to take over the team when JJ decides to retire, but where has it been suggested, shown, or verified that Stephen has done anything outside of salary cap management related to GM duties?

 

[CATCH17]

Dallas is six-two after a twelve year Play-Off wining draught, if any GM has a 12 year learning curve to win a single play-off something is very wrong with that picture.

Dallas was 13-3 two years ago in the regular season and that translated into an early play-off exit while a 9-7 Giants team went on to win the Super Bowl.


Six and Two is great and I give the credit to the players who are taking this season upon themselves to raise this team to a new level.

So if we win than you give credit to the players but if we lose its all on Jerry and the coaches, correct?



I remember when we lost to the Giants everyone blamed the coaches when it was clearly 100% on the players.