So is Jerry a good GM?

[Doomsday101]

This is more true than most will admit. And it's actually been around 20 years.

I never believed Jerry operated as a traditional GM. Always felt he left player evaluation to his subordinates.
Does anyone here really believe Jerry is or will be reviewing film of division II OL prospects the team is considering in later part of the 2010 draft?

He's an overseer and is intimately involved with these decisions. He does have final say, but at the end of the day those "decisions" are simply the result of the input he receives from the scouts and coaches.

The obvious benefit of operating in this manor is that it makes him more to hire the scouts and coaches. More so than any other owner.

Thing is that is what other GM's do as well. They send their scouts out and get feed back from the head of scouting and they get feed back from the coaches. I think you will find it is a group effort around the NFL when it comes to bringing in players.

 

[cowboyz]

1st, 3rd and a 6th

 

[vta]

I know it feels good to be winning and sitting on top of the decision, but let's not anoint Jerry yet.

This years team is one of those rare moments where a great number of talented players come together and gel at the right moment. The window on these moments close fast and if this team doesn't make an impact in the post season, it's going to require some very sound GM management in the off-season to get them over that hump.

This team has matured together and seems to be realizing it's own potential and Jerry deserves credit for putting this rare collection of talent in place.

If he can handle this group better than he handled his last rare collection of talent, I'll have to change my opinion of him. Right now, I'll just enjoy the hope I'm able to have with such a good team.

 

[SultanOfSix]

I think if he wins a few playoff games he could be considered a good GM. His relatively recent negative history weighs him down too much as of now to claim him with any certainty that he is a good GM. I think he's been doing a good job since he hired BP and after he left.

If he gets to a SB and wins it, then I definitely think he should be considered a good GM.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

He's operating as a good GM, and he's built a strong, quality team.

 

[Tobal]

Jerry is a work in progress, he is like tony Romo. He has to be allowed to be Jerry but still protect the ball.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Stephen Jones and Tom Ciskowski have alot more influence on Jerry's decisions than Jerry lets on .. I would not trade Jerry for any Owner in the NFL.. We are lucky that he bought this team..

 

[casmith07]

Try and overpay a little for a guy who we thought could get us to a Superbowl.

Had it been an Offseason move than we wouldn't have gave up that much.

What was everyone clamoring for last year? A #2 receiver. Many thought it was our only weakness.

Well Jerry went out and did something about it to try and get us to the Superbowl.

It was a gamble but at least he took a shot.

On top of that, Roy Williams might not be exactly setting the world on fire, but with the 3rd and the 6th how many people here can name exactly who they would have taken in those rounds, and which of those two people you'd pick would be contributing right now? It's negligible. The vast majority of the contributors we have are either LATE round guys (Ratliff - 7th) and even undrafted (Crayton, Austin, Romo, Ogletree).

I wish people would stop just listing the picks we traded as a talking-point and actually analyze our drafts from the last two to three seasons (except for the Carpenter/Parcells draft...horrendous).

 

[Doomsday101]

On top of that, Roy Williams might not be exactly setting the world on fire, but with the 3rd and the 6th how many people here can name exactly who they would have taken in those rounds, and which of those two people you'd pick would be contributing right now? It's negligible. The vast majority of the contributors we have are either LATE round guys (Ratliff - 7th) and even undrafted (Crayton, Austin, Romo, Ogletree).

I wish people would stop just listing the picks we traded as a talking-point and actually analyze our drafts from the last two to three seasons (except for the Carpenter/Parcells draft...horrendous).

I agree. I would also add we know what RW looks like today but what we don't know is how he will be looking down the road as this season continues. RW and Tony looked more in sync this past weekend than they have since RW has been here and call me crazy I think the best is yet to come. How this trade is judged today and how it will be judge at the end of the season may be very different.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I'd rate him above average right now.

It's funny how people dismiss the 3 Super Bowls saying that they were 15 years ago, yet cannot let go of the real rough patch of constant bad decisions made by Jerry which were about 10 years ago.

He has clearly changed as far as making personnel decisions go. Even from the Jimmy era. We almost never draft a player with off the field problems anymore. Just ain't worth it. We are entirely smarter with the contracts against the cap, which is really where Jerry got into trouble...he had a poor salary cap philosophy when the cap was instituted.

But, those things have changed. And Dallas' yearly records are better for it.

Look this offseason. We got rid of Owens, which I thought was pretty crazy. We got rid of Ellis (which made me feel better about releasing Owens) and Roy Williams - safety. Then we picked up Brooking, a guy everybody said was way past his prime, Sensabaugh and Igor who were supposed to be a nothing pickups.

Then we dedicated the draft towards improving special teams, and we've seen a gigantic improvement in that area. Of course, dedicating the draft to special teams was considered 'crazy' and a waste of time.

In the end, the team's record is the greatest indicator of the GM's ability and we've been about average the past 10 years, above average the past 5 years and have the t-4th best record in the league this year.





YAKUZA

 

[CATCH17]

I agree. I would also add we know what RW looks like today but what we don't know is how he will be looking down the road as this season continues. RW and Tony looked more in sync this past weekend than they have since RW has been here and call me crazy I think the best is yet to come. How this trade is judged today and how it will be judge at the end of the season may be very different.

Exactly... Good post man.


People have to see the big picture with this thing.

Even though we are playing good right now our Offense still has so much upside.

Bennett, Felix, Tashard, Roy, and Ogletree can still do more in this Offense and we will get a better feel on how to do that each and every week.

Even defensively Spencer is still a guy who has a lot of room to grow and there is no telling how well Jenkins is going to be playing a month from now.

We're still scratching the surface with this thing and have a ton of upside.

 

[RainMan]

Talk about a thread destined to get you stoned to death if you dare agree with it.

Jerry still whiffs on too many risks I think to ever consider him a "top" GM, but his GM showing post-Parcells is soooooo much better than pre-Parcells that it's ridiculous. This year's draft wasn't that impressive, but it still netted us a few guys in Buehler, Butler and Ogletree (I count him since he was an UDFA) that have shown more potential than perhaps we collected between the 1994-1997 and 1999-2000 drafts combined.

I still question if Jerry has an organizational plan he sticks to (like teams like the Colts, Patriots, Spurs adhere to), or if his decisions are made more on an offseason-to-offseason whim, but he's done a far better job in recent years than in the past.

 

[baj1dallas]

Better than average, but he's cheap so that makes him a good value for the owner

 

[tchoice23]

Steve will be a good GM

 

[MONT17]

the top 5 players on the roster are all Parcells... yeah, he is the greatest GM!

 

[Doomsday101]

Steve will be a good GM

why do you say that? I'm not saying your wrong but is there a reason you feel he will be a good GM?

 

[TwoCentPlain]

the top 5 players on the roster are all Parcells... yeah, he is the greatest GM!

And who are these top five players?

Remember Parcells wanted Spears first and then try to get Ware later according to rumor. If so, then it was JJ who took Ware first. If it were up to Parcells, Spears would be a Cowboy and Ware would have likely been somewhere else.

Romo? I wouldn't call that a Parcells pick. More like JJ and Sean Payton.

L. Davis? I'd call that a JJ pick. Gurode? Wasn't he here before Parcells?

Austin? Probably a Parcells find.

Ratliff? Could be JJ, could be Parcells. No one knows.

Barber? Leaning toward a Parcells pick. Don't really know. Do know that Parcells developed Barber.

 

[cowboyed]

Bottom line: He doesn't have enough time to be a good GM. It's whom he surrounds himself with, IMO. He'll ask the questions and go with what he's told excluding the human toy's he picks up now and again.

So when things go well, it is who Jerry surrounds himself with huh. When he overruled Parcells and snagged Ware ahead of Spears who did he listen to then? When things go wrong its all on Jerry or it is totally on him anyway because he hired that loser staff.

IMO none of us know how much time he spends as a GM. For that matter we don't know how much time other GM's spend on their jobs either. Jerry Jones always had football in him, he played at the collegiate level.

He has made some wrong decisions and even admitted getting too cute and arrogant with certain selection options that cost us. Also as posted by someone else the crash in the 90s was not all on Jerry. It was also about the salary cap and free agency decimating our dynasty.

The great Jimmy Johnson went to Miami and became head coach and GM and did not do so well. Salary cap poses acquisition limitations and free agency can drain your talent away. It was easier to acquire, manage, cultivate or trade your choice player assets in the early to mid 90s. As that song goes the day the music died - was in the mid 90s.

 

[BHendri5]

Yes, He is a greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat GM!!!!

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Talk about a thread destined to get you stoned to death if you dare agree with it.

Jerry still whiffs on too many risks I think to ever consider him a "top" GM, but his GM showing post-Parcells is soooooo much better than pre-Parcells that it's ridiculous. This year's draft wasn't that impressive, but it still netted us a few guys in Buehler, Butler and Ogletree (I count him since he was an UDFA) that have shown more potential than perhaps we collected between the 1994-1997 and 1999-2000 drafts combined.

I still question if Jerry has an organizational plan he sticks to (like teams like the Colts, Patriots, Spurs adhere to), or if his decisions are made more on an offseason-to-offseason whim, but he's done a far better job in recent years than in the past.

Just about every team has whiffed a lot of the time on personnel. I can name plenty of whiffs by the Patriots. And the Colts, and the Eagles, and the Steelers, etc.

Other than that, I agree with the post.





YAKUZA