So much for Miami taking McFadden...

[Thick 'N Hearty]

Dude, did you just crawl out from under a rock?

He was in the pool ... holding the chain.

 

[Pottsville Maroons]

Jerry valued Bill's opinion but to call him his "mentor" is ridiculous. However, I would love to see the look on Jerry's face if anyone ever said that to him...lol.

Jerry makes his own decisions. He knows McFadden will be an impact player and if given a reasonable chance, he'd jump at the opportunity to draft him. Who cares if RB's don't last forever. I'll take 7-8 seasons of an All Pro RB to go with our All Pro QB.

I agree. Jerry went out and got TO and while BP may have gone along with it I doubt it was BP is the one who initiated this move. I do think Jerry respect BP but I don't buy that BP was Jerry mentor. :laugh2:

That word was in quotes for a reason, fellas. Does the word "advisor" meet with your approval?

I will say that I remember quotes from Jerry saying that working with Bill had made him change his some of his thoughts and practices regarding personnel and the draft, so to say that he didn't "mentor" him in that area is equally ridiculous.

Did Jerry dump every idea he ever had and become a mindless BP disciple? No, that's preposterous and not at all what I was implying.

 

[Pottsville Maroons]

Who cares if RB's don't last forever. I'll take 7-8 seasons of an All Pro RB to go with our All Pro QB.

I think the article indicated the average was about half of the 7-8 seasons you're hoping to get. 3 good years out of the #1 overall pick? Doesn't sound like a good return on an investment to me.

Edit: here's a quote from an article about this topic:

Pro football: Inside the NFL.
New York Times, 24 March 2002, B6
Mike Freeman


This article reports that an updated study by the N.F.L Players Association showed that professional football players cannot expect to have a long playing career. According to the article:

The players union studied team rosters from the 1987 to 1996 seasons, an average of 1,647 players a year, or about 16,000 players years. The study showed the average career of an NFL player is 3.3 years. The shortest careers were those of running backs (2.57 years), followed by wide receivers (2.81) and cornerbacks 2.94).

While the study did not speculate on the reason for the short careers, NFL officials said that the short careers are due primarily to the large number of high-speed collisions players experience. Players who are hit the least, quarterback and punters/kickers had the longest life spans: 4.44 years and 4.87 years.

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~chance/chance_news/recent_news/chance_news_11.02.html#item3

 

[CowboyWay]

why would having Thomas Jones prevent someone from drafting Darren McFadden

Because they also have Leon Washington, who is a nice back.

I'm not saying that Jones and Wash are enough to keep a team from taking mcfadden, but the jets don't need him. They are in a division with NE. What are they going to do? Try to outscore them??? No way. You want to beat the patriots, there is only one way to do it. Get pressure on Brady.

The Jets D line is weak, they need an upgrade. Howie Longs boy would fit nicely. I see the Jets taking him over a RB.

 

[BlueStar II]

Jerry would sell his soul for that Razorback.

I fully anticipate a trade with Miami, multiple high picks + a player or two.

:starspin I feel the same way about Jones wanting to work out a trade for McFadden, and McFadden is the kind of "wow" player that Jones is interested in bringing in.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

A friend with the Patriots tells me that Belicheck really wants Chris Long, Howie's son, DE, Virginia. Take it for what it is worth.

I really want Chris Long, Howie's Son. That guy would be unbelievable in Spears' spot, IMO. I really like that guy.