So much for the cover 2 shell kryptonite

[Blackrain]

People may think I'm nuts but this is a much better version of dak. I'd rather him sling it a round a bit, take some chances like he has, than play ultra conservative football like he has in the past. At the very least he's basing his play right now on what the team needs. If its going to be a shoot-out he's letting it fly. If he needs to be more conservative he's able to.

Said it in a million threads already. He was 6 rushes for 41 yards today. Could have been more if he wanted. If he's willing to use his legs this offense is going to be tough to stop.

This is the truth it makes all the difference in the world it moves the chains.

Dak has got to run for us to be successful and he has to commit to it quickly not wait so long till it turns into a sack.

This defense is injured to the point where it will not tolerate three and outs Dak has to put the team on his back and get first downs

 

[CowboyoWales]

It's been said that Dak struggles against the cover two. A cover two look, at the snap of the ball, makes it hard to distinguish man from zone. Trying to beat the coverage, no matter what it is, is why Moore normally calls a bunch of option routes. On option routes Dak has to read one defender instead of the whole defense. So he ends up staring down that defender. And that's when the unknowledgeable come in and say...Dak can't read defenses. But the truth is route combinations that create high low situations can beat cover two... man or zone. That's why we been seeing a lot of passes to our RB's in the flat here lately.

Kellen Moore had to learn how to beat cover two without calling a bunch of option routes. So Dak is playing better because Moore's play calling has gotten better. Posters have often wondered, is it Dak holding this team back or is it Moore holding this team back? Well now you have your answer...it's been the play calling. Better play calling...better Dak. It's just that simple.

Good post. So in the ever evolution, is the option route the counter to the post-snap changes that Secondary's have been using? Im sure the commentary mentioning CeeDee not following set/usual routes.

My only concern is the Eagles are already watching the tape to make adjustments....however, tat's the nature of the beast.

 

[CowboyoWales]

People may think I'm nuts but this is a much better version of dak. I'd rather him sling it a round a bit, take some chances like he has, than play ultra conservative football like he has in the past. At the very least he's basing his play right now on what the team needs. If its going to be a shoot-out he's letting it fly. If he needs to be more conservative he's able to.

Said it in a million threads already. He was 6 rushes for 41 yards today. Could have been more if he wanted. If he's willing to use his legs this offense is going to be tough to stop.

Spot on. The cover 2 is predicated by the ability to hold theD-line with 4 men. The wild-card and onus is, as you say, is for the QB to run, especially when you've got CeeDee in the slot/slant distracting LB/ Safeties

 

[ak47kaehu]

Yeah the clock management gaffes worry the hell outta me. That sorta thing gets you beat in the playoffs. But then so does a defense giving up 34 points usually..

Clock management got us beat last week against the Jags too.....

 

[buybuydandavis]

Here you go..

Dak do love separation.
Man coverage? Not so much. Press man even less.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Is the option route the counter to the post-snap changes that Secondary's have been using?

Yes it is.
The main two option routes that Moore had been calling are the post or the out to Gallup, on the outside. And the hook or post to Lamb on the inside. Both of those routes accompanied by a shallow crosser would jet the job done. But, Moore called the option to Lamb too often, and defenses countered it by clogging the middle. Taking away Lamb and the crosser at the same time. So, Moore (finally) adjusted to the clogging the middle strategy, by throwing to our RB's in the flat.

My only concern is the Eagles are already watching the tape to make adjustments.

Moore's current play calling, RB's in the flat, is designed to beat the cover two zone. When teams play a lot of man against us we have the advantage with Lamb and Shultz. Lamb can't be covered by man in the slot, and Shultz can't be covered by a LB in a one on one situation. So, Moore has defenses in a pick your poison situation, he just has to keep it up.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Yes it is.
The main two option routes that Moore had been calling are the post or the out to Gallup, on the outside. And the hook or post to Lamb on the inside. Both of those routes accompanied by a shallow crosser would jet the job done. But, Moore called the option to Lamb too often, and defenses countered it by clogging the middle. Taking away Lamb and the crosser at the same time. So, Moore (finally) adjusted to the clogging the middle strategy, by throwing to our RB's in the flat.


Moore's current play calling, RB's in the flat, is designed to beat the cover two zone. When teams play a lot of man against us we have the advantage with Lamb and Shultz. Lamb can't be covered by man in the slot, and Shultz can't be covered by a LB in a one on one situation. So, Moore has defenses in a pick your poison situation, he just has to keep it up.

Cheers....so is it possible that using CeeDee in the slot to such devastating results wasnt so much a 'showing our hand' as much giving the Eagles a consideration if they decide to vacate the pocket for the lateral to Pollard?

 

[visionary]

Anybody else notice how during the broadcast they pointed out how amazing Dak has been against the coverage that was supposed to be "the blueprint" to stopping this offense? I seems that Dak and Moore may well have actually learned something these past few months. Because those numbers they put up were just insane. Something ridiculous like 95% completion rate.. I don't have the exact numbers handy .. will have to rewatch the game for the particulars.. but it was stupid good.

yes Dak played great last I’ll give him props when he plays well

his problem has been consistently great play against the best teams because in the playoffs he will need to be great 4 straight games if we are to win a SB

Can he do that? I hope he can

 

[NotForLong]

People may think I'm nuts but this is a much better version of dak. I'd rather him sling it a round a bit, take some chances like he has, than play ultra conservative football like he has in the past. At the very least he's basing his play right now on what the team needs. If its going to be a shoot-out he's letting it fly. If he needs to be more conservative he's able to.

Said it in a million threads already. He was 6 rushes for 41 yards today. Could have been more if he wanted. If he's willing to use his legs this offense is going to be tough to stop.

I second this. . . I would rather have the Bret Favre Gambler then the old conservative Dak. . .

Thats why I have criticized Him in the Past . . But haven't since the aggressiveness has shown up in his game .

Now that "taking chances" appears to be part of His Game . . I feel the Cowboys chances of playoff glory has actually invreased

 

[cnuball21]

Super encouraging after a few rough games against zone earlier in the year.

I’ve been screaming for quick throws and RB dump offs and those plays were money. The 3 step drop quick slant over the middle was cash.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Nobody said cover 2 , doofus

2high shell isn’t aLways cover 2. Learn the game.

Dude. Stop. Right now.

 

[JBS]

Dude. Stop. Right now.

You are clueless. If you think 2 high is the same as covert two you might as well quit right now.

 

[Yoshimitsu]

You are clueless. If you think 2 high is the same as covert two you might as well quit right now.

You are silly and slow. Especially with all that confidence. Two high and cover two are literally the same shell. All it means is both safeties responsible for their deep half's.

 

[JBS]

You are silly and slow. Especially with all that confidence. Two high and cover two are literally the same shell. All it means is both safeties responsible for their deep half's.

This is not correct. Are you joking? You think every time the defense has 2 high safeties the entire defense is playing cover 2 zone ? That’s literally the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. You ever heard of 2 high man??? Guess what? It EXISTS!!!!!

 

[JBS]

I knew the IQ on this board was low but my goodness. People don’t even know 2 high man defense exists. Hahahah. Holy hell you guys are clueless

 

[ScipioCowboy]

This is not correct. Are you joking? You think every time the defense has 2 high safeties the entire defense is playing cover 2 zone ? That’s literally the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. You ever heard of 2 high man??? Guess what? It EXISTS!!!!!

Gaslighting won’t save you either.

 

[RonnieT24]

I knew the IQ on this board was low but my goodness. People don’t even know 2 high man defense exists. Hahahah. Holy hell you guys are clueless

Even a poster with average football IQ knows there are combination coverages which mix zone with the safeties with man under or zone on one side and man on the other. My post was specifically about the graphic they put up about Dak against zone coverage of which 2 high shell is one. Get over it. Teams have tried every combination of zone against Dak and none have really worked. Yes they have been able to get him to force it into unwise spots counting on his receivers to win.. but they have not really stopped him and this offense.

They're averaging damn near 40 points a game since he came back. They just hung 40 on a top 5 defense yesterday. They've hit 40 4 times in the last 8 games. If there was a defense that COULD stop him teams would already have played it.

At this point the only thing that stops this offense is a bad day. Which they're obviously going to have from time to time.. That's when we will need the defense to stand up. In its current state I don't think the defense CAN.. but let's get as many of the guys healthy as we can heading into the playoffs and take our chances.

 

[Yoshimitsu]

This is not correct. Are you joking? You think every time the defense has 2 high safeties the entire defense is playing cover 2 zone ? That’s literally the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. You ever heard of 2 high man??? Guess what? It EXISTS!!!!!

Cover 2 zone is a defense yess but the concept of the safeties playing two deep. That concept doesn't change *******. The safeties are still playing deep half's in cover 2. Dumby. We aren't talking about the other players just the safeties taking away the deep half's. Smh. You think your so smart too.

 

[Yoshimitsu]

This dude really trying to roast people when the concept of the safeties is literally the same if they are playing deep half's of the field. But somehow others don't "know" defense.

 

[DuncanIso]

That’s not correct

they displayed Dak Vs zone

that’s not the same as 2 high shell

cover 2 …2 man press….

Dak seems to struggle vs Cover 2 Robber.