So much for the great Brian Brohm

[Maikeru-sama]

Ohio State beat texas this year and I think Michigan can beat texas.

Sorry I know many on this board love Texas but I think Ohio State and Michigan are superior teams.

Yep, you are entitled to your opinion and I am not a Texas fan.

But I think Texas, Florida and USC is capable of beating Michigan and OSU.

- Mike G.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think we may see Ohio State vs Michigan in the regular season, and possibly a rematch in the National Championship as I think both of those teams are better than Texas, Auburn, Florida and any other one loss team right now.

No chance, no how. This will not happen IMO. To much TV money on the line. Nobody is going to want to see this game again so soon. My money is on Florida if they win out.

 

[Crown Royal]

While I don't think it is fair for this thread to be made after one bad showing, I am of the opinion that Brohm won't make a great NFL QB. He might be servicable, but he has some footwork & mechanical stuff I don't like at all.

JMO - I've been wrong many times.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

WVU = Morgantown West Virginia
Virginia Tech = Blacksburg Virginia

Two different schools, two different states, and now two different conf.




Rutgers will not beat WVU this year.

And I still think who ever loses the Ohio state/michigan game is better than the other one loss teams right now.

Personally, I think Michigan might beat OSU this year. This is going to sound bad but I don't really think OSU is that good this year. I watched that OSU/Texas game and I honestly believe that OSU was very beatable in that game. Texas ran the ball very well against OSU. At half, that game was only 14-7. End of 3rd Quarter, it was 17-7. McCoys pick was a back breaker. That's really the only bad game McCoy has had this year IMO. He didn't play well at all. He is definatly not the same play now, as then IMO. OSUs LBs are a weakness IMO. I think there beatable if a team runs the ball against them. You do that and I think you can beat OSU.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

West Virginia beat the SEC Champion Georgia Bulldogs in UGA's back yard last year. WVU pretty much returned all of their starters. There's no doubt in my mind that Rutgers and Louisville would survive in at least the SEC (although I think the SEC is consistently overrated).

I think last year's UGA team was as good as any of this year's SEC teams if not better. So if Rutgers can go out and beat Louisville and WVU, they are completely legit.



YAKUZA

I agree, there lagit. I don't know that I would pick Rutgers over Florida or Auburn but I think they can definatly play with them. Any time you can play good defense and have a solid running game, your going to beat teams. Rutgers has both of those things. JMO.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

While I don't think it is fair for this thread to be made after one bad showing, I am of the opinion that Brohm won't make a great NFL QB. He might be servicable, but he has some footwork & mechanical stuff I don't like at all.

JMO - I've been wrong many times.

I'll tell ya, I saw Romo his first year and I said to myself, no way. Good coaching can do a great deal for a player. Good coaching and the right situation can make all the difference in the world for a QB.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Oh and another thing.

I gurantee you USC (as much as I hate them) is capable of beating both Michigan and OSU.

I really cant see how someone can just definatively say "Michigan/OSU" is head and shoulder better than everyone else.

- Mike G.

USC is WAAAAAAY overated this year.

They are so lucky that they don't have at least 3 loses already instead of one.

Heck USC, this year, are no where close to being as good as Texas or Florida.

Oh and I can say I think they (ohio state and michigan) are much better because it is my opinion and I do not live in texas.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Personally, I think Michigan might beat OSU this year. This is going to sound bad but I don't really think OSU is that good this year. I watched that OSU/Texas game and I honestly believe that OSU was very beatable in that game. Texas ran the ball very well against OSU. At half, that game was only 14-7. End of 3rd Quarter, it was 17-7. McCoys pick was a back breaker. That's really the only bad game McCoy has had this year IMO. He didn't play well at all. He is definatly not the same play now, as then IMO. OSUs LBs are a weakness IMO. I think there beatable if a team runs the ball against them. You do that and I think you can beat OSU.

Michigan may indeed beat Ohio state this year or any year since it is such a big rivalry.

However Tressel has had michigans number (I think only one loss against them since he became coach at Ohio State).

IMO it would take Florida to lose another game before texas is considered in the race for the NC with whoever wins the Ohio State game.

I still think ohio state michigan game would get huge ratings and dollars because it is historic rivalry but it probably will not happen.

If Florida wins out, Texas wins out, Ohio or Michigan wins out....than the winner of the Ohio State game plays Florida.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

USC is WAAAAAAY overated this year.

They are so lucky that they don't have at least 3 loses already instead of one.

Heck USC, this year, are no where close to being as good as Texas or Florida.

Oh and I can say I think they (ohio state and michigan) are much better because it is my opinion and I do not live in texas.

Yeah, they are going primarily with rep alone but that Offense nice man. In a "one game" contest, I think it is anybody's ball game.

And again, I am not saying this because I live in Texas. I even mentioned USC, Florida and Arkansas but hey, but just focus on "Texas" .

- Mike G.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think Michigan is the best team in the Country this year. They dominate the LOS, both sides. They have a great QB and a nice running game. I really like Michigan this year. Florida, I have a hard time with simply because they've been beaten by Auburn pretty good. They could have been beaten by Georgia (6-4/ 3-4 SEC) and Vandy (4-6/1-5 SEC). Should have been beaten by the Vols. To me, Auburn is a better team then Florida.

 

[Doomsday101]

Some things to remember about Brohm that I would bet some don't know.

He lost his best Running Back on the team earlier this year. A heck of a RB I might add.

He, Brohm, is coming back from an injury himself (broken thumb) and to be honest he has not looked as good since that injury.

They were playing a good team on their home turf and that team (rutgers) was PUMPED UP to upset the Cards. Just like the cards last week vs WV.

Every QB and or team can have a bad game.

No doubt about it and he will be heavy sought after once he enters the draft be it this up coming draft or the next.

 

[joseephuss]

Michigan may indeed beat Ohio state this year or any year since it is such a big rivalry.

However Tressel has had michigans number (I think only one loss against them since he became coach at Ohio State).

IMO it would take Florida to lose another game before texas is considered in the race for the NC with whoever wins the Ohio State game.

I still think ohio state michigan game would get huge ratings and dollars because it is historic rivalry but it probably will not happen.

If Florida wins out, Texas wins out, Ohio or Michigan wins out....than the winner of the Ohio State game plays Florida.

I think BCS higher ups would prefer not to have a OSU/Michigan re-match. They can get better ratings if one of the teams is from a different area than the midwest. USC probably would bring the bigger draw, but both Florida and Texas would bring some ratings as well.

 

[peplaw06]

Personally, I think Michigan might beat OSU this year. This is going to sound bad but I don't really think OSU is that good this year. I watched that OSU/Texas game and I honestly believe that OSU was very beatable in that game. Texas ran the ball very well against OSU. At half, that game was only 14-7. End of 3rd Quarter, it was 17-7. McCoys pick was a back breaker. That's really the only bad game McCoy has had this year IMO. He didn't play well at all. He is definatly not the same play now, as then IMO. OSUs LBs are a weakness IMO. I think there beatable if a team runs the ball against them. You do that and I think you can beat OSU.

That fumble by Pittman near the goalline was big too. IIRC Texas would have tied it up late in the 3rd had they scored there.

McCoy is light years better at this point IMO. I really think Texas may well win if they get a rematch with OSU.

The point that USC is overrated is a good one BP... But I think all of the teams in the Top 10 are very beatable. Even OSU and Michigan.

OSU struggled with Illinois, Michigan struggled with Ball State. I have a feeling we're going to be disappointed in the OSU-Michigan game... one of them will get blown out, and Michigan's D is so good, it may just be OSU.

Florida platoons their QBs... I haven't watched a full game of theirs mind you, but they're definitely beatable, and I think they're gonna lose before the bowls are determined.

I'll preface this by saying I'm a Texas fan, but I don't think any team in the Top 10 is clearcut better than the rest. I think if you took the top 8 and did 8 playoffs, you may have 8 different winners.

College F-Ball has become more competitive and balanced, and the BCS and bowl system are too antiquated to come up with a true champion IMO.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Michigan may indeed beat Ohio state this year or any year since it is such a big rivalry.

However Tressel has had michigans number (I think only one loss against them since he became coach at Ohio State).

IMO it would take Florida to lose another game before texas is considered in the race for the NC with whoever wins the Ohio State game.

I still think ohio state michigan game would get huge ratings and dollars because it is historic rivalry but it probably will not happen.

If Florida wins out, Texas wins out, Ohio or Michigan wins out....than the winner of the Ohio State game plays Florida.

I'll tell you Brain, this might be the best Michigan team I've seen. They are just dominating in there front four and with there OL.

I agree that Florida has the inside track right now but I don't know that I would say that if they win out, they are in. Let me tell ya, they better hope they don't have to face Auburn again because I think they might get smoked if they do. If they play Arkansas in the SEC title game, to me that's not going to help them much in the BCS ratings. Arkansas is good but they have really over achieved IMO. They have not played a great schedule IMO and they have played a lot of close games in the SEC. 21-19 over Vandy, 24-23 over Bama, 26-20 over SCar and they got stomped against USC 50-14. They did beat Auburn, which is important but they still have the Vols, MissSt and LSU left and then the SEC Title game. I don't think Arkansas is going to win out. If they don't, then it's probably Auburn and that's bad for Florida IMO. The other thing that could really hurt Florida is if they don't kill FSU. They have to win convincingly IMO or it will hurt there BCS ranking. That's a rivalry game that could kill Florida. Auburn is who I would be more affraid of in the SEC.

As far as Texas goes, they have KSt. who they should really be able to beat, then TAM who should be a ranked opponent in Austin and then the Big 12 Championship game. That will either be Nebraska or Missouri depending. Nebraska is really the only team who has played Texas close (outside of OSU of course) but I watched that game and I doubt Nebraska is going to get a snow storm like they did in Lincoln. I don't see either of those teams having a very good chance of beating Texas. Interestingly enough, the Oklahoma lose to at Oregon really hurts Texas. Oklahoma should be 8-1 with it's only lose to Texas. Oregon should be 6-3 going into the SC game. This really hurts Texas because right now, they would probably be the number 3 team in the country in all polls. I look at Texas' case for a national championship game and I see it as compelling. They are ranked higher in every poll, except the BCS, then anybody other then Michigan or OSU. If OSU wins, then you have Colt McCoy (highest rated QB in the country) in a rematch with the whole how far has he come angle against possibly the Heisman Winner with Smith. Also a National Championship rematch from last year. If Michigan wins, then the loss against OSU is not as big an obstical to put Texas in a championship game and you also have the Rose Bowl rematch from 2004. Either way, I can see a good angle on Texas.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Yeah, they are going primarily with rep alone but that Offense nice man. In a "one game" contest, I think it is anybody's ball game.

And again, I am not saying this because I live in Texas. I even mentioned USC, Florida and Arkansas but hey, but just focus on "Texas" .

- Mike G.

I did say of those Florida has a shot if they win out.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I'll tell you Brain, this might be the best Michigan team I've seen. They are just dominating in there front four and with there OL.

I agree that Florida has the inside track right now but I don't know that I would say that if they win out, they are in. Let me tell ya, they better hope they don't have to face Auburn again because I think they might get smoked if they do. If they play Arkansas in the SEC title game, to me that's not going to help them much in the BCS ratings. Arkansas is good but they have really over achieved IMO. They have not played a great schedule IMO and they have played a lot of close games in the SEC. 21-19 over Vandy, 24-23 over Bama, 26-20 over SCar and they got stomped against USC 50-14. They did beat Auburn, which is important but they still have the Vols, MissSt and LSU left and then the SEC Title game. I don't think Arkansas is going to win out. If they don't, then it's probably Auburn and that's bad for Florida IMO. The other thing that could really hurt Florida is if they don't kill FSU. They have to win convincingly IMO or it will hurt there BCS ranking. That's a rivalry game that could kill Florida. Auburn is who I would be more affraid of in the SEC.

As far as Texas goes, they have KSt. who they should really be able to beat, then TAM who should be a ranked opponent in Austin and then the Big 12 Championship game. That will either be Nebraska or Missouri depending. Nebraska is really the only team who has played Texas close (outside of OSU of course) but I watched that game and I doubt Nebraska is going to get a snow storm like they did in Lincoln. I don't see either of those teams having a very good chance of beating Texas. Interestingly enough, the Oklahoma lose to at Oregon really hurts Texas. Oklahoma should be 8-1 with it's only lose to Texas. Oregon should be 6-3 going into the SC game. This really hurts Texas because right now, they would probably be the number 3 team in the country in all polls. I look at Texas' case for a national championship game and I see it as compelling. They are ranked higher in every poll, except the BCS, then anybody other then Michigan or OSU. If OSU wins, then you have Colt McCoy (highest rated QB in the country) in a rematch with the whole how far has he come angle against possibly the Heisman Winner with Smith. Also a National Championship rematch from last year. If Michigan wins, then the loss against OSU is not as big an obstical to put Texas in a championship game and you also have the Rose Bowl rematch from 2004. Either way, I can see a good angle on Texas.

If it were not for the Rivalry and Tressel I would say michigan wins.

I think they, from top to bottom, are the better team.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If it were not for the Rivalry and Tressel I would say michigan wins.

I think they, from top to bottom, are the better team.

I think there far and away the better team this year. Best in the country IMO but your right. Rivalry means something. Texas better not overlook TAM. Florida better not overlook FSU etc. There's still a lot of football to be played. Should be interesting.

 

[Hostile]

What do you mean Kartr? Like he did against Miami earlier this year? 10/14 71.4 Comp%, 181 yards, 12.93 YPA, 1 TD, 0 INTs, 137.5 QB Rt.

Like he did against WV? 19/26, 73.1 Comp%, 13.62 YPA, 354 yards, 1 TD, 0 INTs, 127.9 QB Rt.

The guy is like 24 and 4 his entire career at Louisville.

His career stats are 388/588, 66.2 Comp%, 5488 yards, 9.1 YPA, 31 TDs, 11 INTs, 105.2 QB Rt. and he still has games to go.

Yeah, he folds like origami. He pretty much sucks.

kartr just got schooled.

 

[Concord]

Quincy Carter had a 5 INT day against an average South Carolina team in college. I guess that didn't shake your faith in him.

And Jones still picked him!

Jerry....:shoot2:

 

[CrazyCowboy]

He just needed a little better blocking.......he did not have much time