Some News Starts to Trickle In

[theogt]

and we've drafted 3 tackles, all have been mentioned as potentially playing inside.

and when you start to talk about guys moving inside you know their prospects at T aren't so hot.

Actually, we've drafted 7 tackles in that time span.

I have no idea why having flexible linemen (something Sparano has emphasized under Parcells for awhile now) is a bad thing.

 

[AbeBeta]

****, then why did we draft Marten and Free in the first place?

Inside players are solid picks in the 3rd or 4th round as well -- hell, one might even work out at an RT.

 

[AbeBeta]

Actually, we've drafted 7 tackles in that time span.

I have no idea why having flexible linemen (something Sparano has emphasized under Parcells for awhile now) is a bad thing.

It isn't -- I just don't understand why more depth is something people were so against -- here's a guy who some teams projected as a first day pick in 2008, why not burn a 5th on him? It isn't like we are bursting at the seams with OL talent right now.

 

[Hostile]

It isn't -- I just don't understand why more depth is something people were so against -- here's a guy who some teams projected as a first day pick in 2008, why not burn a 5th on him? It isn't like we are bursting at the seams with OL talent right now.

No one said they were against depth. Not one single solitary person.

 

[AbeBeta]

No one said they were against depth. Not one single solitary person.

Not against it -- just, IMO, overestimating our current depth

 

[theogt]

It isn't -- I just don't understand why more depth is something people were so against -- here's a guy who some teams projected as a first day pick in 2008, why not burn a 5th on him? It isn't like we are bursting at the seams with OL talent right now.

Because we have 2 starting tackles and 3 backup tackles. You can spend a 5th on this guy, but that means you're going to end up cutting either him, the 3rd or 4th rounder, or another prospect that has been starting all off-season.

Depth is great, but eventually in the cost-benefit analysis, the cost simply isn't justified.

The thing I've been saying this whole time is that Jerry probably didn't want to give up a single pick because he doesn't know what it's going to take to get McFadden next year. If he spends a 4th or a 5th on a guy in the supp. draft, that may very well be the extra pick needed to sweeten the pot just enough to get his guy.

 

[Hostile]

Not against it -- just, IMO, overestimating our current depth

Somewhere in the middle of this discussion (I have no idea how) you came to the conclusion that posters on this forum have pull with the Dallas Cowboys front office.

I reported that during the SD today the Cowboys would not be selecting anyone and I stated the reasons why. Not my reasons, theirs. Someone brought up Gaither and I repeated those reasons.

Your issue apparently is with the faith the Cowboys have in the job they've done, but I have no earthly idea why you think otherwise and from the get go have not understood what your gripe is.

Like I said, you're all over the place.

 

[AbeBeta]

Somewhere in the middle of this discussion (I have no idea how) you came to the conclusion that posters on this forum have pull with the Dallas Cowboys front office.

I reported that during the SD today the Cowboys would not be selecting anyone and I stated the reasons why. Not my reasons, theirs. Someone brought up Gaither and I repeated those reasons.

Your issue apparently is with the faith the Cowboys have in the job they've done, but I have no earthly idea why you think otherwise and from the get go have not understood what your gripe is.

Like I said, you're all over the place.

Gripe? I have an opinion, not a gripe. Where exactly did you report on the team's reasons -- I saw your opinion and nothing stated in the thread that came from the team through you.

I do think people are a bit overly optimistic about Marten and Free -- do they look like nice young players? Sure, but we all know the rate at which 3rd and 4th rounders pan out. If you can get a guy who most folks say would have been a first day pick for a 5th, that sounds like a nice move.

But apparently, my opinion isn't something you care to hear today.

 

[Vintage]

Gripe? I have an opinion, not a gripe. Where exactly did you report on the team's reasons -- I saw your opinion and nothing stated in the thread that came from the team through you.

I do think people are a bit overly optimistic about Marten and Free -- do they look like nice young players? Sure, but we all know the rate at which 3rd and 4th rounders pan out. If you can get a guy who most folks say would have been a first day pick for a 5th, that sounds like a nice move.

But apparently, my opinion isn't something you care to hear today.

And what would we do with him?

We have Colombo and Adams as our starting OT's. They aren't getting cut. McQuistan has been playing with the 1st string offense while Adams has been out at LT. And reportedly, he is in competition for starting LG.

We have our current OL looking like this:

Adams/Kosier/Gurode/Davis/Colombo

We just drafted Free and Marten and they are locks to make the roster. Given how McQ has looked thus far and since he has been running with the first team offense, Id say he is a lock too.

That's 8. Proctor is the 9th. He is the current backup OG and has gotten reps at C to work on being the backup C.

Problem is, we have 3 backup OT's and a OG/C. Adding another OT doesn't make sense.

I hope McQuistan beats out Kosier this year. It would give us a more physical RG....but also, it gives us more flexibility on the backup OL.

We'd have Proctor/Kosier shuffling along the interior line and Free/Marten on the OT spots.

But only if McQ can legitimately beat out Kosier.

 

[AbeBeta]

And what would we do with him?

We have Colombo and Adams as our starting OT's. They aren't getting cut. McQuistan has been playing with the 1st string offense while Adams has been out at LT. And reportedly, he is in competition for starting LG.

We have our current OL looking like this:

Adams/Kosier/Gurode/Davis/Colombo

We just drafted Free and Marten and they are locks to make the roster. Given how McQ has looked thus far and since he has been running with the first team offense, Id say he is a lock too.

That's 8. Proctor is the 9th. He is the current backup OG and has gotten reps at C to work on being the backup C.

Problem is, we have 3 backup OT's and a OG/C. Adding another OT doesn't make sense.

I hope McQuistan beats out Kosier this year. It would give us a more physical RG....but also, it gives us more flexibility on the backup OL.

We'd have Proctor/Kosier shuffling along the interior line and Free/Marten on the OT spots.

But only if McQ can legitimately beat out Kosier.

All three of those tackles have been discussed as moving inside -- as i've mentioned several times in this thread.

Also, some teams keep 10 OL.

 

[Hostile]

Gripe? I have an opinion, not a gripe. Where exactly did you report on the team's reasons -- I saw your opinion and nothing stated in the thread that came from the team through you.

I do think people are a bit overly optimistic about Marten and Free -- do they look like nice young players? Sure, but we all know the rate at which 3rd and 4th rounders pan out. If you can get a guy who most folks say would have been a first day pick for a 5th, that sounds like a nice move.

But apparently, my opinion isn't something you care to hear today.

Post #1 of the thread. "They are not expected to have any interest in this crop of players."

I always like your opinions because you'll fight for them.

What I gather from this though (and you can reject my diagnosis) is that you had never heard of Marten or Free but had Gaither and that is why you're questioning this.

 

[AbeBeta]

Post #1 of the thread. "They are not expected to have any interest in this crop of players."

I always like your opinions because you'll fight for them.

What I gather from this though (and you can reject my diagnosis) is that you had never heard of Marten or Free but had Gaither and that is why you're questioning this.

Heard of has nothing to do with it -- I like both Marten and Free but I think that one or both are ending up inside.

 

[Hostile]

Heard of has nothing to do with it -- I like both Marten and Free but I think that one or both are ending up inside.

Naw. We just signed Davis and moved McQ inside opening spots for backup OTs.