Some perspective (coach)

[Bleu Star]

Did I forget to metion Dre Bly immitating Deion during his INT and thus getting chased down, tackled and fumbling, giving the ball back to ATL?

Such discipline. Such focus.

If you think that little act went unaddressed later then you don't know Mr. Singletary.

The Niners have accomplished just as much as we have. Three victories.

The Niners weren't expected to accomplish anything this year. They're overachieving due to a fairly competent coaching staff. In stark contrast, we're underachieving due to a totally inept coaching staff.

In the Niners 3 wins the combined record of their opponents is 4-10.
In our 3 wins the combined record of our opponents is 1-13.

Just as we barely lost to the undefeated NYFG, they barely lost to the equally undefeated Vikings.

We have so much room to talk...

 

[windward]

If you think that little act went unaddressed later then you don't know Mr. Singletary.



The Niners weren't expected to accomplish anything this year. They're overachieving due to a fairly competent coaching staff. In stark contrast, we're underachieving due to a totally inept coaching staff.

In the Niners 3 wins the combined record of their opponents is 4-10.
In our 3 wins the combined record of our opponents is 1-13.

Just as we barely lost to the undefeated NYFG, they barely lost to the equally undefeated Vikings.

We have so much room to talk...

The Niners were expected to contend for the division title by many. Not sure where you were on that account.

They are 3-2

We are 3-2

How again have they accomplished more?

 

[Hoofbite]

I'm dead *** sick of people citing an exception to the rule as some sort of evidence against a claim. When his team does crap like that multiple times over the span of a couple years, maybe then we can talk.

 

[boyzjunkie]

So if we had an opportunity to trade Wade for Mike even up; how many on this board would refuse to do it?

To suggest the 3-2 records of these teams is an indication they are at each team's real potential is a joke. I am thinking San Fran would be at 0-5 if Wade were there this year. And yes. We would be at 5-0 if Mike were here.
Just my opinion. But I strongly believe it.

 

[DallasDomination]

For those dogging Wade recently and citing Mike Singletary's coaching approach as their argument...

did you happen to see Singletary's performance today?
His defense was getting dogged so he calls a random early timeout to pep them up/chew them out. They respond by giving up a 40 yard TD to Roddy White immediately afterward. They also would need that timeout he wasted, at the end of the half. In addition, Josh Morgan strolled a gimme TD at a lazy pace and was caught from behind before scoring. They ultimately gave up 210 yards and 2 TDs to Roddy White AND 3 TDs to Michael Turner, losing 45-10 at home.

Just some perspective. If you're gonna cry about the greener grass elsewhere, just make sure and take note when said grass turns brown and wilted.

Singletary has got for the most part a bunch of jags to perform at a higher level. That Defense has played real good for the most part and had one bad game. I would take singletary over Wade in a heartbeat.

If the Cowboys had some real coaching and accountability with the non BS approach they would be alot better.

 

[Doomsday101]

Singletary has got for the most part a bunch of jags to perform at a higher level. That Defense has played real good for the most part and had one bad game. I would take singletary over Wade in a heartbeat.

If the Cowboys had some real coaching and accountability with the non BS approach they would be alot better.

SF defense is not made up of jags, they have some good talent on that unit and good mix of vet and young backups in that lineup.

 

[Bach]

The Niners were expected to contend for the division title by many. Not sure where you were on that account.

They are 3-2

We are 3-2

How again have they accomplished more?

Some of you are so simple-minded or willfully ignorant it's almost comical.

You either seem to forget, probably intentionally, what Singletary inherited when he became the HC a year ago.

It's the same way some try to compare the Cowboys record under Wade with that of Parcells, neglecting the whole time to take into consideration that Parcells took over after the Campo fiasco and the three consecutive 5-11 years - whereas Wade took over after Parcells got the team back on track and in the playoffs.

 

[theogt]

Wade and Singletary are polar opposites. Wade tries to use his head and be more of a cerebral coach (ehhhh)...Singletary is a fireball who lets emotion dictate how he coaches. They both have pros and cons.

BUT the flaws in those two show exactly why a guy with a controlled intensity (cough cowher cough) makes such a good coach.

It's okay to have a mindless cheerleader if you have a cerebral coach as well. And the 49ers have that in Wade's protege, Greg Manusky.

What's funny is that the success of the 49ers defense may have to do more with Wade than the actual head coach.

 

[Bach]

It's okay to have a mindless cheerleader if you have a cerebral coach as well. And the 49ers have that in Wade's protege, Greg Manusky.

What's funny is that the success of the 49ers defense may have to do more with Wade than the actual head coach.

:laugh2:

 

[jazzcat22]

Just some perspective back atcha...

• The Niners are doing plenty with far less talent.
  
• The Boys are doing nothing with immense talent.

Just as the shills will claim these early Cowboy games are aberrations and you can't discount a team only 5 games in, the same goes for San Fran. One Game. Got it? Good.

No need to fire Wade. All is well in VR. blah blah blah. If wanting to extract the spineless jellyfish is considered premature then you bet trying to criticize Singletary over one bad game is inanely ridiculous.

A team with immense talent wins despite of their coach.....see Barry Switzer.

Apparently, our talent is not as immsense as people want to think it is.

 

[Mash]

I brought up this same point in other discussions...

I think Singletary is a very good coach....but what has he won as a coach?

Rah...Rah coaches can be tuned out just like passive coaches.

And why do we always think Wade isnt hard on his players during meetings? Do we automatically think Wade's demenor on the sidelines is what the players see behind close doors?

Its funny....Wade could keep his job if he could somehow...take a timeout and show some fire and yell at his players every once in awhile......then we could just blame the players.....couldnt we.....or not.....Jerry Jones is always a fan favorite.

Why not just hire Campo and he can jump up and down like a poodle...and force the players to "punch in" when they come to work.......oh yeah...forgot...the poodle had no say....players only feared Jerry

Well thats it then......I vote for Jerry Jones to call a timeout and yell at the players.......show some emotion....its what makes great coaches great....

 

[burmafrd]

amazing how some still defend Phillips. Just amazing. Pollyanna's all of them.

 

[sonnyboy]

Perception vs Reality

Novice fans just love seeing a firey HC on the sidelines. We want to know how much they care and that they will rip into players that don't perform well.

Got news for you guys. Firey HCs lose can games and the attention of their teams as fast as a reserved HC. Perhaps faster.

That act grows tired.

Acting like a demonstrative idiot on the sidelines doesn't make you credible. How many sideline fits did our beloved Landry throw.

There's a lot of proven HCs I would trade Wade for. Singletary is not one of them.

 

[Doomsday101]

Perception vs Reality

Novice fans just love seeing a firey HC on the sidelines. We want to know how much they care and that they will rip into players that don't perform well.

Got news for you guys. Firey HCs lose can games and the attention of their teams as fast as a reserved HC. Perhaps faster.

That act grows tired.

Acting like a demonstrative idiot on the sidelines doesn't make you credible. How many sideline fits did our beloved Landry throw.

There's a lot of proven HCs I would trade Wade for. Singletary is not one of them.

I agree. I think too much gets made out of the so called fire and brimstone coaches as somehow being the better coaches and yet there have been many successful head coaches who were not jumping up and down foaming at the mouth who have had ample success. Our 1st coach by looking at his expression you could not tell if we had just won or lost the game.

 

[Future]

The problem with bringing Landry into this discussion is that he coached at a completely different time. You didn't have to worry about keeping every millionaire player in line, they were much more responsible then and the league was way more lax as far as off-the-field concerns.

 

[Doomsday101]

The problem with bringing Landry into this discussion is that he coached at a completely different time. You didn't have to worry about keeping every millionaire player in line, they were much more responsible then and the league was way more lax as far as off-the-field concerns.

I still do not think the only coaches worth a damn are hollering and ranting on the sidelines, Bill Belicheck does not rant and rave on the sideline. That is not what makes a coach good or not. Chucky is in the booth because his team was losing so for all the hollering he did it did not prevent him from seeing a team Dungy put together collapse yet another quality HC who did not have to rant and rave for his team to produce.

 

[Future]

I still do not think the only coaches worth a damn are hollering and ranting on the sidelines, Bill Belicheck does not rant and rave on the sideline. That is not what makes a coach good or not. Chucky is in the booth because his team was losing so for all the hollering he did it did not prevent him from seeing a team Dungy put together collapse yet another quality HC who did not have to rant and rave for his team to produce.

No, no I agree completely. Ranting and raving isn't what you need, but there has to be an intensity, a passion to win, and a little bit of fear in the players that if they screw up, they are gone. Landry had that but I don't think being so stoic would work nowadays. Let's not forget that it took Landry quite a while to get Dallas over the hump, had Schramm not stuck by him early on when people wanted him gone, Landry wouldn't be nearly the icon he is.

 

[Doomsday101]

No, no I agree completely. Ranting and raving isn't what you need, but there has to be an intensity, a passion to win, and a little bit of fear in the players that if they screw up, they are gone. Landry had that but I don't think being so stoic would work nowadays. Let's not forget that it took Landry quite a while to get Dallas over the hump, had Schramm not stuck by him early on when people wanted him gone, Landry wouldn't be nearly the icon he is.

Teams can't easily dump players with the way contract are and the cap hit they take when they do it. Yes you can get rid of the lower end bench players it is not as easy to get rid of higher priced players and they know it.

Players do not fear coaches, they may respect a coach and there are different means to gain trust and respect from players.

Todays players are high paid business people they do not shake in their boots because some coach is hollering. Hell Singltary was ranting at one player he walked right by Singletary and did not even look back.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Perception vs Reality

Novice fans just love seeing a firey HC on the sidelines. We want to know how much they care and that they will rip into players that don't perform well.

Got news for you guys. Firey HCs lose can games and the attention of their teams as fast as a reserved HC. Perhaps faster.

That act grows tired.

Acting like a demonstrative idiot on the sidelines doesn't make you credible. How many sideline fits did our beloved Landry throw.

There's a lot of proven HCs I would trade Wade for. Singletary is not one of them.

Well said, although I do like Singletary.

But Joe Avezzano said it perfectly last night on the radio. He said that fans have no real idea about Wade's coaching, because they aren't in meetings or the locker room or the practice field. The reason they don't like him and never will has to do with what they see, which is his appearance on the sideline. But to say that he's a terrible coach is ridiculous. He has a record of 73-51 as an NFL head coach, and you aren't 22 games over .500 in this league if you're as incompetent as most people claim.

Those were Joe's words and not mine, so don't anyone jump me for it!

But I do like his perspective because, unlike most people, he knows first hand how hard it is to win games in this league.

 

[windward]

Some of you are so simple-minded or willfully ignorant it's almost comical.

You either seem to forget, probably intentionally, what Singletary inherited when he became the HC a year ago.

It's the same way some try to compare the Cowboys record under Wade with that of Parcells, neglecting the whole time to take into consideration that Parcells took over after the Campo fiasco and the three consecutive 5-11 years - whereas Wade took over after Parcells got the team back on track and in the playoffs.

So in 2003 we won 10 games with low expectatiions.

The 2007 team won 13 games with higher expectations.

Are you going to argue that the 2003 Cowboys accomplished more than the 2007 version?