Something eerily similar between Lance and Dak

[Hadenough]

Dak can read defenses bro. Daks strength is his mental ability. His problem is his raw physical talent. He isn't a natural arm talent like some of his peers but he worked his *** off to fix his footwork and mechanics. Which is why a weakness in college he got better at when it comes to accuracy.

He does lack talent physically. What people don't understand is under pressure his weakness rises and becomes noticeable. I just don't believe you can fix that. Players can work on it and make it better to a point but it will always rear its ugly head in big moments.

 

[Hadenough]

This is a threat to Dak? Hahaha I'm all for getting rid of Dak but bringing in this garbage isn't the way to do it.

 

[ghst187]

Though some of what you said is correct, Lance didn’t lose his job to Darnold, as everyone keeps saying, Shannahan wanted to move on so he did, that’s all there is to it. Lance didn’t okay in first preseason game against chargers. Second and third he was high passer. 173yrds vs 109 yards with same rtg as Darnold. Third preseason game Trey 112 yards to Darnolds 83. Also higher rating: 111 vs 97.
Recall: Trey got hurt his rookie season, then broken an ankle last year. Kid literally has played the second fewest games of any qb taken in top five since 1967. Reality is we know what Dak is, but no one knows what Lance is, including everyone on this board bc he hasn’t played. He’s started what 4 games so we shall see over next few years.

A team doesn’t simply “move on” from a qb they think has any promise after paying a third overall pick on him and still on a rookie contract. I don’t buy it.
I don’t hate the guy, just the trade.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Honestly, I think Moore's offense fits Herbert's skillset more than it fits Dak's skillset.

And that was the problem. Moore didn't know how to use the skillsets of what Dak and other offensive personnel we have on offense can do.

Dak and Herbert are two totally different quarterbacks. A good coordinator design plays to fit the talent, not force the players to fit what you design.

Huh? Herbert is your prototypical QB. He has all the tangibles required for the position. He’s like Aikman in regards to all of those.

I’m not sure where you were going with this two different types of QBs logic.

 

[leeblair]

I will not pretend to be an NFL Guru. I did not know the dynamics of the Trey Lance situation nor did I understand the Magnitude of the Persona and the Player

This man has a Cult Following and those who argue in favor of Trey . . . Use the same exact Arguments and the same exact Energy as those who are accused of being Dak Lovers here.

Carbon Copy. Can't read defenses and is slow to react which causes late and inaccurate passes. Except the difference is that their paths are complete opposites. Dak is the Veteran that is expecting a Half a Billion in Cash from Jerry and maybe a Quarter Billion in endorsements. Lance is the kid that played 1 season in a Division 2 power house ( but what a season)

One is a Raw 23 year old the other is nearly a Billionaire . . . Both Can't read a defense and are late to react which leads to "Rushed" inaccurate throws. . . But Both have a Cult following

If any one believes Dak will finally figure it out are Die Hards but I will give Trey the benefit of the doubt. Dak played His whole College and NFL career, Trey is limited in experience but is still young and on the come up . . .

So if Trey comes in the worse you could expect is Dak "Lite" . . . It is gonna be nice to watch this Diamond in the rough develop.

Did you know that there are fans that are actively considering leaving San Fran and becoming Cowboy Fans . . . Both have a Cult Following that are eerily Similar

Go Lance . . . WE WANT LANCE

There's one difference- I hope.
Trey Lance expects to make plays and be responsible for the offense.
Whereas Dak seems content to run whatever plays the offensive coordinator comes up with the way it is designed, and let the coordinator take the blame.
This has been Dak's problem.
Hopefully Lance will feel the need to make things happen.

 

[CWR]

Daks Rookie year is over rated, most of His stats were padded when he would pouch Elliott's 1 yard and 2 yard TDs. He performed admirably but that team was all about Zeke and the Offensive Line.

I am not saying Lance is next man up. That is Rush's Job. And I have total confidence in Cooper. . This team's identity is the Defense with Micah and Travon

If we struggle it will lay at the fret of Dak. And it will be because of Dak's limitations which are slow to read a defense and the inability to lead a WR in stride . . . As far as what i have read trying to familiarize myself with Lance, His weakness are reading defenses and this leads to inaccuracies . . . Dak Lite but Lance is young and inexperience . . . What is the Half a Billion Dollar QB's excuse in his 8th year?

Ah OK, so agenda driven hate. Cool story.

 

[duro420]

Him being on the team was tearing 49er nation apart . . . He has a Cult Following exactly like Dak

That's cus trey lance dated Colin Cowherd daughter then dumped her. It has everything to do with the cowboys and its why they'll miss they playoffs.

There, you see that? I can make nonsense too but why?

 

[GINeric]

Huh? Herbert is your prototypical QB. He has all the tangibles required for the position. He’s like Aikman in regards to all of those.

I’m not sure where you were going with this two different types of QBs logic.

Herbert is talented, but don't act like he's all world yet. He has to first win a playoff game first.

I do believe he's a better pure passer than Dak, but let's not act like he's light years better than Dak already.

Dak had a better win percentage than Herbert at this time in their careers. Lastly.... that whole "prototypical" thing is a myth. They called quarterbacks like Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, and many others "prototypical" too, and how did their careers turn out?

Exactly.

Herbert is the real deal, but let him play more ball before you put him up on some pedestal. Let him atleast win a playoff game first.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Herbert is talented, but don't act like he's all world yet. He has to first win a playoff game first.

I do believe he's a better pure passer than Dak, but let's not act like he's light years better than Dak already.

Dak had a better win percentage than Herbert at this time in their careers. Lastly.... that whole "prototypical" thing is a myth. They called quarterbacks like Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, and many others "prototypical" too, and how did their careers turn out?

Exactly.

Herbert is the real deal, but let him play more ball before you put him up on some pedestal. Let him atleast win a playoff game first.

What are you going on about? All I said is Herbert is the prototypical QB with all the right tangibles. You’re the one who contrasted him with Dak as if that benefitted whatever point you were trying to make.

Also, there is no Dak’s win percentage just as much as there is no Micah’s win percentage.

And no, Leaf and Russell were not prototypical. They had the strong arms, but that’s about it, and the two cent heads.

 

[GINeric]

What are you going on about? All I said is Herbert is the prototypical QB with all the right tangibles. You’re the one who contrasted him with Dak as if that benefitted whatever point you were trying to make.

Also, there is no Dak’s win percentage just as much as there is no Micah’s win percentage.

And no, Leaf and Russell were not prototypical. They had the strong arms, but that’s about it, and the two cent heads.

Maybe you've just started watching football, but yes. There are quarterback winning percentages recorded. I didn't just start that statistic.

And yes... I said that Dak and Herbert are two different quarterbacks, meaning two different styles of play.

Montana and Young were both great quarterbacks, but they both had their own different styles of playing quarterback.

If you don't know the difference between two different quarterback styles, then there's not much to discuss from here on out.

 

[Strykerscm]

Neither have the brain for success on the field.

 

[Rockport]

He does lack talent physically. What people don't understand is under pressure his weakness rises and becomes noticeable. I just don't believe you can fix that. Players can work on it and make it better to a point but it will always rear its ugly head in big moments.

He’s one of the highest rated QB’s under pressure.

 

[Nav22]

Ha! The poor guy is probably starving to death! Ramen Noodles and water for dinner.

His only point was that it's not "nearly a billion dollars."

Why so angry? Makes you sound broke and jealous.

 

[Nav22]

Come on dude don’t lie. Lance lost his job because he broke his leg in the second game of the year not because of his play. You don’t have to like Lance but stop with his play cost him his job, he started two games. One in a monsoon the second game he was injured early.

Purdy played so well that he clinched the job.

If Lance had played better football when he WAS on the field, Purdy wouldn't have entered camp as the heavy favorite to be the starter.

Lance was battling Sam Darnold for the backup job. And that is IN PART because he wasn't very impressive even in the few games he did play in. Week 1 loss to the Bears, for example.

 

[Nav22]

I am talking about the infamous "Next Contract" that all you simps are resigned to accepting that He receive.

Nice save.

Just kidding. You're still hilariously wrong on every account.

 

[Nav22]

The Shanahans like a specific type of QB. Elway, Plummer, Cousins, Purdy....they all have above average mobility and excel on stretch play action. Learn your facts before assuming this was a decision made just based on skills without considering if the player was a fit to their scheme.

So they traded a fortune to draft a QB #3 overall..... who didn't fit Shanahan's mold???

That makes sense to you?

 

[Nav22]

Frisco is a garbage City, not to mention the team ain't squat, so I don't blame fans for leaving.

As for comparing collegiate resumes, Dak was far superior. He was a three year starter in the SEC and had his team ranked #1 in the nation at one time. He was far more experienced coming out of college.

I think Frisco was smelling themselves when they traded the farm for Lance and they paid a stiff price just to ultimately trade him for magic beans.

San Francisco's real estate prices would completely obliterate the prices of wherever you live.

There's a reason.

 

[baltcowboy]

Purdy played so well that he clinched the job.

If Lance had played better football when he WAS on the field, Purdy wouldn't have entered camp as the heavy favorite to be the starter.

Lance was battling Sam Darnold for the backup job. And that is IN PART because he wasn't very impressive even in the few games he did play in. Week 1 loss to the Bears, for example.

Purdy took the number 1 starters roll by the way he played at the end of the season but again Lance lost the job through injury. If Jimmy G didn’t break his foot Purdy would have never seen the field. Lance was about as impressive as a starter as Lawrence was his first year with Jacksonville. We will never know what would happened if he was not injured. My guess is something happened behind the scenes for Shanahan to sower so quickly. It could of been a Romo/Dak situation for all we know.

 

[Buzzbait]

Buzzbait said:
Ha! The poor guy is probably starving to death! Ramen Noodles and water for dinner.

His only point was that it's not "nearly a billion dollars."

Why so angry? Makes you sound broke and jealous.

Sorry 22, not angry at all, my post was meant only in jest. I should've added a to make that clear.

 

[Nav22]

Purdy took the number 1 starters roll by the way he played at the end of the season but again Lance lost the job through injury. If Jimmy G didn’t break his foot Purdy would have never seen the field. Lance was about as impressive as a starter as Lawrence was his first year with Jacksonville. We will never know what would happened if he was not injured. My guess is something happened behind the scenes for Shanahan to sower so quickly. It could of been a Romo/Dak situation for all we know.

Woulda coulda shoulda.

Purdy looked like the next Tom Brady while going 7-0 (2-0 in playoffs). And that was his first career NFL action, in his rookie year.

Lance looked mediocre in a Week 1 loss to Chicago.

Yes, technically he did lose his job due to injury.

BUT if Lance looked GREAT in that Week 1 game (or his limited action as a rookie), maybe it's an open competition in camp this year. Instead, Purdy entered camp with the clear advantage.