Something eerily similar between Lance and Dak

TheMightyVanHalen

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This man has a Cult Following.

Can't read defenses and is slow to react which causes late and inaccurate passes. Except the difference is that their paths are complete
Trey has a cult following thanks to the Anti-Dak/Cowboys Cult we have here. Trey hasn't really played in 4 years. Only had one good year outside of high school football. They are rooting against Dak in hopes of Trey coming and saving the season so they can brag and say "See I told you so!" The Lance Cult are true fans of Trey, per se.

Can't read defenses? LMAO! He's one of the best, if not THE best, QB against the blitz. Vic Fangio drew up the blueprint to confuse Dak. Fake blitz and then drop back into zone coverage. He's below average against zone coverage. He's at his best when he has to make quick decisions. When he drops 3-5 yards back, he stares too much at his first option. When the call is to one side of field he rarely looks to other if the first read isn't there. With this Texas Coast offense, maybe just maybe, Mike will use him to his strengths, where Garrett and Moore were too stubborn to create a different system for him that capitalizes on his strengths. Romo was the exact opposite. He couldn't read a blitz to save his life. He would make bad decisions by just throwing the ball up for grabs hoping that HOFers like T.O, Witten, and soon to be ROH and borderline HOFer, Dez Bryant, would bail him out. I knew we was losing the game when he would go to the sideline and dump water over his head. That was a sign showing he was mentally out of the game. Where Dak gets the dear in the headlights look after an INT.
 

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They are similar bec
You wanna know how. I'll tell you but you can't handle the truth.

Kellen and the comeback route

So explain why Dak did very well while Kellen Moore was his third string back up??? While you come up with that answer....

You give Kellen Moore way too much credit. Kellen Moore does not have an intelligent football mind. His football IQ for in-game situations and adjustments were trash.
 

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So explain why Dak did very well while Kellen Moore was his third string back up??? While you come up with that answer....

You give Kellen Moore way too much credit. Kellen Moore does not have an intelligent football mind. His football IQ for in-game situations and adjustments were trash.
Either way it’s going to be interesting to see which Qb will elevate or recede in his play with new Coordinators.

we will be keeping an eye on that situation
 

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Either way it’s going to be interesting to see which Qb will elevate or recede in his play with new Coordinators.

we will be keeping an eye on that situation

It's not a great comparison unless Dak had the same level of offensive talent as the Chargers do under the same play calling.

I believe Herbert is a better pure passer than Dak however.

Unless Moore has learned how to adjust to the flow of the game and call plays that make sense in certain situations.... the Chargers aren't going anywhere.
 

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It's not a great comparison unless Dak had the same level of offensive talent as the Chargers do under the same play calling.

I believe Herbert is a better pure passer than Dak however.

Unless Moore has learned how to adjust to the flow of the game and call plays that make sense in certain situations.... the Chargers aren't going anywhere.
That’s true because of so many variables, but it will still be interesting.

perhaps Herbert craps the bed and Dak has his best season……never know
 

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Oh good Lord… The stuff some people come up with in order to make them feel good about something. I’ve heard it all now… Trey Lance had to go because of the fan divide. Yeah… I’m sure that’s it.

Lol
1. Are you aware of it?
2. Do you believe Cowboy Nation is divdied over Dak?
 

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That’s true because of so many variables, but it will still be interesting.

perhaps Herbert craps the bed and Dak has his best season……never know

Honestly, I think Moore's offense fits Herbert's skillset more than it fits Dak's skillset.

And that was the problem. Moore didn't know how to use the skillsets of what Dak and other offensive personnel we have on offense can do.

Dak and Herbert are two totally different quarterbacks. A good coordinator design plays to fit the talent, not force the players to fit what you design.
 

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Took Dez awhile to get signed after leaving here. Crazy how the league watches film and sees declining players and fans just think it’s some conspiracy lol.

Dude had no career after Dallas and kept up his lack of health with another major lower body injury in NO. These athletic deteriorations coupled with his lack of route running development were the end of Dez.

There are plenty of highlights with Dak throwing back shoulder passes lol. A) If you rely on one or two ways to be effective good luck lasting past your physical prime. B) Why didn’t all the back shoulder specialists pick him up?

2016 was Dez’s last effective year (guess who was the QB!). After that, his body let him down. No need for weird fan conspiracies.
Dez was dropped in April a week before the draft in a total Dick move by Jerry. He signed with Baltimore, suffered the injury and that is why he was out of football
 

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Dak is gonna have a monster year. I like Lance and think he has a future, but this is Dak’s team and it will be for the foreseeable future. Cope.
Cope . . OK I'll Cope .

Dak should have an MVP season. . . There is no reason for Him not to . . . Unless He is on a downward Spiral

In the Texas Coast He needs to read defenses and lead WRs . . . I think He is not capable. You think He is . . . If and When He fails How will you Coup? . . . By Blaming Others?
 

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I don't watch college, and didn't see Trey play on 49ers. So I have no idea if he is trash or not. Although I would assume with his limited play time,
they probably feel he is raw enough to develop him, and hasn't become set in any bad habits he may have. So who knows?

Could be nothing, or something. We won't know until he actually plays. Right now, I am pretty sure Rush's job is safe this season.
 

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Honestly, I think Moore's offense fits Herbert's skillset more than it fits Dak's skillset.

And that was the problem. Moore didn't know how to use the skillsets of what Dak and other offensive personnel we have on offense can do.

Dak and Herbert are two totally different quarterbacks. A good coordinator design plays to fit the talent, not force the players to fit what you design.
Dak has no skill set and Moore made him a $40 Million QB
 

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Cmon man you created a thread suggesting we can throw Lance in and get Dak light at worse. Then you credit KM for Dak reading defenses. Listen to what all the players have said all camp. KMs scheme was slowing them down and often comprising the qb/wr being on the same page.

You ignored the fact Dak put together an excellent rookie campaign and Lance has floundered.

I'm 100% for Lance but statements like yours are way beyond where Lance is. I'll embrace him as a blue chip prospect and hope, unlike the niners we can develop him and take advantage of those tools. There is no guarantee whatsoever, and to believe he is a top 10 qb at worst is flat stupid OR agenda driven hate against the actual qb1.
Daks Rookie year is over rated, most of His stats were padded when he would pouch Elliott's 1 yard and 2 yard TDs. He performed admirably but that team was all about Zeke and the Offensive Line.

I am not saying Lance is next man up. That is Rush's Job. And I have total confidence in Cooper. . This team's identity is the Defense with Micah and Travon

If we struggle it will lay at the fret of Dak. And it will be because of Dak's limitations which are slow to read a defense and the inability to lead a WR in stride . . . As far as what i have read trying to familiarize myself with Lance, His weakness are reading defenses and this leads to inaccuracies . . . Dak Lite but Lance is young and inexperience . . . What is the Half a Billion Dollar QB's excuse in his 8th year?
 
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