Something I noticed with Dak

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No, that's ridiculous. The narrative here is that when Dak misses some throws, he's some 'really bad' QB. But put it all in perspective, league-wide, almost every single fan in the league would take Dak's 'really bad' versus their QB's 'really bad'.
Sometimes it's best to just ignore rediculousness.
 

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Dak could not have performed as he did had the OL not gotten their **** together. I'm talking cause and effect. You are making a value judgment.
Of course, that's an obvious statement. Any QB needs protection but the QB still needs to make the plays. That was the #1 defense in the league and Dak and the team grinded it out while committing zero turnovers.....very impressive.
 

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yeah the difference between "Dak-haters for the sake of Romo" and Cowboy fans

I don't want Romo to start. He likely would have turned it over under that pressure. You should really just stick to what I say and not make things up.
 

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That's about how I expect most Cowboy games to go, a slow start, let the O-Line and Zeke grind on you and the points start to come...

Dak struggling at the beginning .... big deal, that's a very legit D they played...in the end DAK was very good again and most importantly he milked 6 minutes of the final 8 minutes to get that 10 point cushion, and he was the man on that drive ... they would not have moved into field goal range just running the ball.

And most importantly no turnovers, how many TO would Romo have had in this point in the season...

And games lost because of his mental breakdowns?

Really? What's the point of attacking Romo?
 

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Sometimes it's best to just ignore rediculousness.

I've no choice to ignore it, I guess. If you haven't been convinced by Dak's prowess at this point, after setting NFL records and driving our team to 9-1, then you obviously have some kind of issue
 

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the strange thing is that we did not wear them down in the 1st half.
something happened in half time.
this is happening enough that it must mean some weakness that the team needs to compensate for.
well it did start in second quarter when we were 1 and 30. after that, you could see them wearing down more and more. But yeah, this team has gotten really good at making adjustments at half time. That is a sign of a good team, not a bad one. There will always be wrinkles and weaknesses, trick is to see it and adjust for it.
 

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What's really amazing is when you remember he is just a rookie. Think how good he'll be next season, with a full season under his belt. :cool:
 

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This narrative that Dak has been 'really bad' is completely ridiculous. You're not calling them like you see them at all. You're harping on a few bad passes. That's it. Not a sack/fumble. Not a INT/TD the other way. But literally a FEW bad throws. That happens to literally every QB in every game in every division across the entire league.

We're being spoiled when we think a few bad passes is 'really bad' from our QB. Maybe really bad to how he usually performs? But league-wide, 'really bad' is very obviously really bad
The 17-2 TD-INT ratio simply cannot be ignored...nor his completion percentage...nor his passer rating. He might be hesitant and cautious with some of his throws, but he is also protecting the ball, which is a real boon to the offense AND defense overall. Much as I wish Romo a ring with Dallas, it now appears to be a dream with no hope of realization. At some point you just have to get behind the kid and try to enjoy the ride...Romo notwithstanding.

Passer rating last three weeks:
127.2 vs. Ravens
121.7 vs. Steelers
141.8 vs. Browns
 

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well it did start in second quarter when we were 1 and 30. after that, you could see them wearing down more and more. But yeah, this team has gotten really good at making adjustments at half time. That is a sign of a good team, not a bad one. There will always be wrinkles and weaknesses, trick is to see it and adjust for it.

the 1 and 30 was great.
but it was because of dak not the OL.
i seem to think the OL was only playing better after halftime.

it is a sign of a good team that we adjust.
but what in the world are teams able to scheme us like that?
this is happening far too often.
 

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I mentioned it in the game thread.

What I love by that is he's not all "big time" letting someone "lesser" than him pick up his trash.

It is a small thing yet a big thing all at once.
LOL, maybe he was a little embarressed......one of the most accurate, prolific, rookie quarterbacks in NFL history....and he misses the trashcan with his paper cup.

Just joking, I was also impressed.
 

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No, that's ridiculous. The narrative here is that when Dak misses some throws, he's some 'really bad' QB. But put it all in perspective, league-wide, almost every single fan in the league would take Dak's 'really bad' versus their QB's 'really bad'.
The narrative is alive in your head. If you care to look at the game without your homer glasses you might see it a little different. I did not make any anti-Dak post, I just posted the truth. Please try to argue he looked good to start the game and make yourself look stupid. The facts do not back you up. He looked good to finish the game not to start the game.
 

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Of course, that's an obvious statement. Any QB needs protection but the QB still needs to make the plays. That was the #1 defense in the league and Dak and the team grinded it out while committing zero turnovers.....very impressive.

I don't disagree. The OP was talking about the difference between the halves on offense. Dak certainly is impressive but he was not what was different. The OL picked up their play first which allowed him to play to his ability.

The issue here is I am dealing with a legion of fanbois who go all cavalier for Dak over anything that even resembles criticism.
 

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LOL, maybe he was a little embarressed......one of the most accurate, prolific, rookie quarterbacks in NFL history....and he misses the trashcan with his paper cup.

Just joking, I was also impressed.

how far away was the trash can?
was it a paper cup with bad aerodynamics?
 

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The narrative is alive in your head. If you care to look at the game without your homer glasses you might see it a little different. I did not make any anti-Dak post, I just posted the truth. Please try to argue he looked good to start the game and make yourself look stupid. The facts do not back you up. He looked good to finish the game not to start the game.
I didn't say he looked good to start the game.

He didn't look good.

I'm just saying that when we say Dak looks 'really bad', and that is literally just a few incompletions and nothing negative at all, that that is not actually that bad at all.

Really bad is Weeden. We need to put Dak's incompletions in perspective and be thankful that that's what his 'really bad' looks like
 
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Dak's mechanics are poor when he is under pressure. Do you disagree that he was erratic?

Did or did not the pass protection improve markedly in the second half?
would say Dak got into his stride mid/late second quarter, which was earlier than previous games. After that, you must admit his accuracy and game command was on mark.
 

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the 1 and 30 was great.
but it was because of dak not the OL.
i seem to think the OL was only playing better after halftime.

it is a sign of a good team that we adjust.
but what in the world are teams able to scheme us like that?
this is happening far too often.

hey, I am with you. I think Dak started out slow, but did a great job overcoming that and playing better and better til the end. as to wearing them out, I was actually referring to breaking them down mentally by continually moving the ball up and down field at will making them subconsciously lose it.
 

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The 17-2 TD-INT ratio simply cannot be ignored...nor his completion percentage...nor his passer rating. He might be hesitant and cautious with some of his throws, but he is also protecting the ball, which is a real boon to the offense AND defense overall. Much as I wish Romo a ring with Dallas, it now appears to be a dream with no hope of realization. At some point you just have to get behind the kid and try to enjoy the ride...Romo notwithstanding.

Passer rating last three weeks:
127.2 vs. Ravens
121.7 vs. Steelers
141.8 vs. Browns

The rapport with receivers will come with time.

I like how he uses all of his receivers.
 

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People need to stop being so sensitive when someone mentions criticism about Dak. I've never seen so many people get so offended by people giving constructive criticism. Did he struggle in the first quarter? Yes and it didn't help that he get no pass protection. But he turned it around, along with the offensive line, and played fantastic. End of story.
 
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