Something I noticed with Dak

Gaede

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I don't disagree. The OP was talking about the difference between the halves on offense. Dak certainly is
impressive but he was not what was different. The OL picked up their play first which allowed him to play to his ability.

The issue here is I am dealing with a legion of fanbois who go all cavalier for Dak over anything that even resembles criticism.

My problem with your argument is that he is an essential part of what was different. The OL changed the game because they stopped the pressure. But once the pressure was stopped, Dak stepped up and made accurate throws, scored TDs, got first downs, and didn't do anything bad. The OL can pass protect all they want but our QB needed to make plays to win the game and he did. Again.
 

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Put Dak up for a trade, and 99% of the teams immediately get in line.

Somehow, between him and Romo we've caught lightning in a bottle twice.

Amazing that some fans don't or can't appreciate what we have with him.
 

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I didn't say he looked good to start the game.

He didn't look good.

I'm just saying that when we say Dak looks 'really bad', and that is literally just a few incompletions and nothing negative at all, that that is not actually that bad at all.

Really bad is Weeden. We need to put Dak's incompletions in perspective and be thankful that that's what his 'really bad' looks like

dak did not look good in the beginning of the game.
not many qbs would have looked good under such pressure.
romo may have ended up on IR after one of those hits.

the question is Why we are vulnerable to such bad performances in the 1st half.
it seemed the OL was badly outplayed, but magically that reverse in the 2nd half.
question is why?

fuzzy is actually one person who is pretty good in picking these flaws up.
 

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Romo is not coming back so you can

1. Accept it and support dak
2. Log out and stop posting
When have I posted anything about Romo coming back????? Please do try to support your pathetic opinion!!!! You missed the point entirely of my original post. Dak sucked to start the game which is 100% truth. He then looked better to finish the game. Had he played the way he finished the game to stsrt the game this game would have been out of reach. That is not a knock on Dak just the truth.
 

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dak did not look good in the beginning of the game.
not many qbs would have looked good under such pressure.
romo may have ended up on IR after one of those hits.

the question is Why we are vulnerable to such bad performances in the 1st half.
it seemed the OL was badly outplayed, but magically that reverse in the 2nd half.
question is why?

fuzzy is actually one person who is pretty good in picking these flaws up.

I think, for some reason, they weren't expecting the pressure. we looked unprepared for a lot of the blitzes thrown at us.

Once they got a hang of what the Ravens were doing, it was game over though.
 

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My problem with your argument is that he is an essential part of what was different. The OL changed the game because they stopped the pressure. But once the pressure was stopped, Dak stepped up and made accurate throws, scored TDs, got first downs, and didn't do anything bad. The OL can pass protect all they want but our QB needed to make plays to win the game and he did. Again.

The word "the" means a singular. I actually think had Dak gotten better protection he would have had a monster game.
 

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I don't disagree. The OP was talking about the difference between the halves on offense. Dak certainly is impressive but he was not what was different. The OL picked up their play first which allowed him to play to his ability.

The issue here is I am dealing with a legion of fanbois who go all cavalier for Dak over anything that even resembles criticism.
To be fair Romo fans bois have been doing this also. Just enjoy the season, no matter how it turns out the future looks bright and has exceeded all my expectations, one of the most exciting seasons ever, and I've seen them all since 1970......it resembles 1975 and 1992 to me.
 

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When have I posted anything about Romo coming back????? Please do try to support your pathetic opinion!!!! You missed the point entirely of my original post. Dak sucked to start the game which is 100% truth. He then looked better to finish the game. Had he played the way he finished the game to stsrt the game this game would have been out of reach. That is not a knock on Dak just the truth.

But it is a knock on Dak when you pretend a few incompletions is 'sucking' but 27/36 for 300 yds and 3 tds is 'looking better'.

Call it like you see it? He struggled early and dominated late.
 

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I think, for some reason, they weren't expecting the pressure. we looked unprepared for a lot of the blitzes thrown at us.

Once they got a hang of what the Ravens were doing, it was game over though.

BUT it happens almost every game for a while now.
I guess i will rewatch the game and see what changed.
But I am not real good in figuring these things out.
 

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BUT it happens almost every game for a while now.
I guess i will rewatch the game and see what changed.
But I am not real good in figuring these things out.

When you're 9-1, you've got a target on your back. I think our early success has changed the way teams start games against us. Coaching-wise, effort-wise. Once the game settles in though, and OL starts to dominate, I think teams just aren't able to keep up with the physicality
 

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dak did not look good in the beginning of the game.
not many qbs would have looked good under such pressure.
romo may have ended up on IR after one of those hits.

the question is Why we are vulnerable to such bad performances in the 1st half.
it seemed the OL was badly outplayed, but magically that reverse in the 2nd half.
question is why?

fuzzy is actually one person who is pretty good in picking these flaws up.
That one hit Dak took to the head was ferocious, the one on the sidelines was borderline dirty.
 

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I think so too.

Fuzzy, one thing I did notice was Dak was making a lot of presnap changes in the middle of the 1st half.
Then he made a lot less before the drive we scored on.

Do you think Ravens were playing with his mind and throwing him offer worrying about a lot of different looks?
I dont think Dak was doing that much presnap adjustments in the second half.
perhaps the coaches figured out the trick, shut it down and Dak could focus?
 

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Fuzzy, one thing I did notice was Dak was making a lot of presnap changes in the middle of the 1st half.
Then he made a lot less before the drive we scored on.

Do you think Ravens were playing with his mind and throwing him offer worrying about a lot of different looks?
I dont think Dak was doing that much presnap adjustments in the second half.
perhaps the coaches figured out the trick, shut it down and Dak could focus?

Only thing that stood out to me was him checking into a run and Zeke getting a 10 yard gain behind Leary in the second half.

There is just too many unknowns ie what he is actually checking and any other adjustments being made to really come to any conclusion so most of the time presnap I pay attention to formation and what the defense is doing.
 

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I don't disagree. The OP was talking about the difference between the halves on offense. Dak certainly is impressive but he was not what was different. The OL picked up their play first which allowed him to play to his ability.

The issue here is I am dealing with a legion of fanbois who go all cavalier for Dak over anything that even resembles criticism.
I can go with that. Dak did look out of sync but the offensive line also seemed a little overwhelfmed by the Raven front. However, when you think of how other quarterbacks typically fare under the same circumstances Then I think you have to give some credit to Dak for his early play, not for what he did well but for what he didn't do to detriment the team.

Under that pressure the rookie didn't crumble. He didn't get rattled, he didnt make game changing errors, he didnt turn the ball over while the team continued to grind.

Then the offensive line talked it over at the half, decided they needed to work harder and came out making a statement. The fact that it was 10-10 and not 17-0 was huge considering the pressure Dak was under in the 1st half.
 
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