Sometimes the best signings are the ones you do not make

lukemartin79

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Remember they were willing to give Gregory 70 million. They shouldn’t get credit for how that turned out. They got lucky there.
Yes, very lucky. He is Denver's problem instead of ours, lol. In his place we have Armstrong's break-out year and Williams too. If Gregory were still here, those 2 wouldn't be playing nearly as much. Not to mention some other players who wouldn't be here at all because of all the $ Gregory's cap hit would be. So it all turned out good for us.
 

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Remember they were willing to give Gregory 70 million. They shouldn’t get credit for how that turned out. They got lucky there.


some of their best moves were mostly luck. I'm surprised more weren't fired in denvers front office.
 

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This team right now should have Hankins, Suh AND Joseph all under contract as DTs. The single biggest reason Dallas struggles in the playoffs is teams like Philly and San Fran bully their DLine. Adding the other two guys ( both wound up in Philly) would have completed our tough team makeover. Front office is clueless to this fact. Sometimes you have to choose football over salary cap.
You can't just say we want a player and it is done.
There are 31 other teams out there.

And you can't say we could sign a player for the same or slightly more than they signed for because we don't know how high the other teams were willing to go.
 

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And sometimes the best signings would have been the ones you made but didn’t. Still looking for a DT after all this time…
They really have to address the DT position in the off-season.

They must get at least 1 elite DT. That would push all the other down the depth chart by 1 spot making all of them a little bit better.
 

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There are many occasions where people, including myself, will get on the FO for being very quiet in FA. Sometimes, we, myself included, will think that the FO isn't interested. Sometimes, it seems warranted, however, some marquee moves that we wanted turned out to be good nonsignings. Thus, it's a good reminder that sometimes, the best signings are the ones that you do not make. Take the cases of Randy Gregory, Lael Collins, and OBJ (so far).

  • In the case of Randy Gregory, this was a player that it was desired that he stay. However, he decided to go to Denver when the suspension clause was entered into his contract. This caused an uproar. However, when you look at his stats (https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GregRa00.htm), you will see that he's only played in 6 games through 15 games so far. He recorded one sack against Houston and one against the 49ers. Since then, he's been very quiet. Additionally, his tackle numbers have been very quiet leaving a lot to be desired. To make matters worse, he received a suspension following an altercation with the Rams following the conclusion of the game (https://www.nfl.com/news/broncos-ra...ushi-suspended-one-game-for-roles-in-postgame) for one week. Thus, he's not been reliable for Denver in terms of being on the field. Considering what he is being paid, this is a flop. Don't forget, he's on Denver's strength, which is the D. All in all, I'm glad the FO did not sign him.
  • Lael Collins was our RT up until going into this season when he moved on to the Bengals. So far this season, I'm not impressed by what he's done with Cincinnati, and, when healthy, Steele has been a fantastic replacement. In the meantime, we've also done well with Tyron Smith coming back. Well done to the FO here.
  • Finally, we come to OBJ. This is a player that Jerry would've signed years ago because of the flash and the name. Instead, so far, he's opted out of OBJ, and went with Hilton. Hilton saved the game against Philly, and he's providing a leadership to our WRs and experience that is beneficial, compared to what OBJ likely would provide. This was another excellent move by Jerry.
There are more examples of good moves made by the FO, especially in regards to those that they didn't sign this season. These are just 3 massive examples where they were pressured into making moves and found that they made the correct decisions in not signing these players.
1- Would that suspension clause kicked in for the Rams game? Curious if we could have gotten out of the contract with that. Also do yall remember how he was acting at joint practise he is a clown.

2 - La’el also tore his ACL but agree Steele outside of Week 1 has been better
 

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They really have to address the DT position in the off-season.

They must get at least 1 elite DT. That would push all the other down the depth chart by 1 spot making all of them a little bit better.

That's exactly it to me too. Not only do you get (if you can find it) a disruptive guy to get a push in both the pass and run game but when you start looking at these other guys as rotation guys instead of starters it all of a sudden makes them better at what they do as well
 

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Remember they were willing to give Gregory 70 million. They shouldn’t get credit for how that turned out. They got lucky there.
Yes, but that was far from top money for a pass rushing DE, and the deal fell through because the Cowboys wanted protection from paying what would otherwise be guaranteed money in the event Gregory got in more trouble with drugs and/or the league. Plus, we don't know how much of that $70 million was going to be guaranteed anyway.

In short, either Gregory was going to sign a very Cowboy friendly deal or he would have to move on.
 

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1- Would that suspension clause kicked in for the Rams game? Curious if we could have gotten out of the contract with that. Also do yall remember how he was acting at joint practise he is a clown.

2 - La’el also tore his ACL but agree Steele outside of Week 1 has been better

1. It would depend on how he was playing. If he was playing like he was this season, I'd imagine the Cowboys would use it as an excuse to cut him.
2. Definitely, which is interesting that an UDFA replaced an UDFA at that same spot.
 
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