Source: Deron Williams prefers Nets or Lakers

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If we cant score DWILL then I wouldnt mind going for Nash and KG on a 3 year deal. Lets the vets go for another ring together and then rebuild. However if you are DWILL and its between Dallas and Nets. Lets weigh each other. Dallas has an owner who will do everything to win and has had his team in playoofs since he came. Nets have a new owner thats totally new to the NBA and not even from this country and an awful GM in Billy King. The Nets are constantly a lottery team for a reason. O and then you have the fact that Dallas is home to DWILL. Home means a lot.
 

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MC KAos;4571811 said:
thats questionable, williams clashed with jerry sloan! whats to say he wouldnt do the same with pop or doc rivers?

I remember Derron Williams having some pretty good seasons under Sloan, pretty good statistically and wins/losses. Whatever issues the two had, they were non existent when the team was doing very well, but came out after Sloan retired mid season (also when the team started to fade back to the pack).

Rondo has had some clashes with Doc, so there's no reason to suspect that Derron and Doc would be like oil and water, they may clash but they would be fine and Boston would be a better team almost immediately.

I do think it would take a while to build the chemistry with San Antonio, time they may not have, but if I were to judge Tony Parker based on his merits and Deron Williams on his, Deron Williams is just a better player. Better defensively, better shooter, better range, better distributor. Only advantage Parker has is he's quicker, but Derron williams is better in almost every way.
 
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I don't think we're getting Williams. I'd honestly rather sign Nash and keep Drew then have to trade him for Williams.
 

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i still think it would be better to trade for 2 or 3 really good players than just 1 great player, depth will still be an issue for the lakers if they just trade bynum for williams
 
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MC KAos;4572420 said:
i still think it would be better to trade for 2 or 3 really good players than just 1 great player, depth will still be an issue for the lakers if they just trade bynum for williams

Absolutely. We need to follow the Spurs model and surround our stars with depth.
 

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Cowboys&LakersFan;4572444 said:
Absolutely. We need to follow the Spurs model and surround our stars with depth.

They had it and let it all walk away. Trevor Ariza, Shannon Brown. Or traded it away, like Fisher (quality depth if you get a starting caliber PG) and Lamar Odom, who had been 6th Man Of The Year! Coming off basically a 15 and 9 year shooting 54%!!

Kupchak's a putz!
 
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casmith07;4572891 said:
They had it and let it all walk away. Trevor Ariza, Shannon Brown. Or traded it away, like Fisher (quality depth if you get a starting caliber PG) and Lamar Odom, who had been 6th Man Of The Year! Coming off basically a 15 and 9 year shooting 54%!!

Kupchak's a putz!

Shannon Brown was awful. He thought he was Kobe and was constantly jacking up shots dumb as a rock. Fisher was hurting us more than he was helping us and he wouldn't have been happy with being kicked out of the rotation due to the Sessions trade. Odom wanted to be traded. Ariza's agent was being a ******bag and Artest was and still is the better player.

Mitch pulled off a great deal for the NBA's top point guard in Paul and got screwed over by the NBA.
 

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here is a bandwagon lakers fan's wish...lol

Lil Wayne WEEZY F ‏@LilTunechi
David West for Gasol...!
 

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Cowboys&LakersFan;4572907 said:
Shannon Brown was awful. He thought he was Kobe and was constantly jacking up shots dumb as a rock. Fisher was hurting us more than he was helping us and he wouldn't have been happy with being kicked out of the rotation due to the Sessions trade. Odom wanted to be traded. Ariza's agent was being a ******bag and Artest was and still is the better player.

Mitch pulled off a great deal for the NBA's top point guard in Paul and got screwed over by the NBA.

Shannon Brown was your energy off the bench. Lakers went from Shannon Brown, who was more than capable of scoring and playing with high energy, to Matt Barnes, Josh McRoberts, and Steve Blake off the bench. I'd take Brown over all three of those clowns combined.

Odom only wanted to be traded AFTER Kupchak tried to move him. Stern did the Lakers a favor by nixing the trade, preventing the Lakers from trading away the 6th Man Of The Year and good interior length with a versatile game. So what does Kupchak do? Trade him anyway for nothing, instead of saying "hey Lamar, our bad."

I do give some credence to the Ariza stuff since I think he was looking for a big payday anyway. But he was instrumental in the Finals win.

GM blew it, man. And I pull for the Lakers every year, but when I saw them trying to basically trade the farm for an often-injured point guard who isn't even the best fit, I was shocked.

And honestly...people are talking about transitioning from Kobe...Shannon Brown's the kind of player you'd want. High flyer, good defense, capable of scoring on anyone. With some refinement, you've got yourself a future wing player to build around a nucleus involving guys like Deron Williams at the point and Bynum or Howard in the post.

Someone hire me.
 
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MC KAos;4572917 said:
here is a bandwagon lakers fan's wish...lol

Lil Wayne WEEZY F ‏@LilTunechi
David West for Gasol...!

Stick to rapping Weezy (Well actually you suck at that too :laugh2:)

I like West, but he really doesn't make us better.
 
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casmith07;4572924 said:
Shannon Brown was your energy off the bench. Lakers went from Shannon Brown, who was more than capable of scoring and playing with high energy, to Matt Barnes, Josh McRoberts, and Steve Blake off the bench. I'd take Brown over all three of those clowns combined.

Odom only wanted to be traded AFTER Kupchak tried to move him. Stern did the Lakers a favor by nixing the trade, preventing the Lakers from trading away the 6th Man Of The Year and good interior length with a versatile game. So what does Kupchak do? Trade him anyway for nothing, instead of saying "hey Lamar, our bad."

I do give some credence to the Ariza stuff since I think he was looking for a big payday anyway. But he was instrumental in the Finals win.

GM blew it, man. And I pull for the Lakers every year, but when I saw them trying to basically trade the farm for an often-injured point guard who isn't even the best fit, I was shocked.

And honestly...people are talking about transitioning from Kobe...Shannon Brown's the kind of player you'd want. High flyer, good defense, capable of scoring on anyone. With some refinement, you've got yourself a future wing player to build around a nucleus involving guys like Deron Williams at the point and Bynum or Howard in the post.

Someone hire me.

Are you saying the Lakers shouldn't have traded for Chris Paul? I love what LO did for us and Pau as well, but we're talking about the best point guard in basketball in Chris Paul. You have to give up a lot to get a great player like CP3.
 

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casmith07;4572924 said:
Shannon Brown was your energy off the bench. Lakers went from Shannon Brown, who was more than capable of scoring and playing with high energy, to Matt Barnes, Josh McRoberts, and Steve Blake off the bench. I'd take Brown over all three of those clowns combined.

Odom only wanted to be traded AFTER Kupchak tried to move him. Stern did the Lakers a favor by nixing the trade, preventing the Lakers from trading away the 6th Man Of The Year and good interior length with a versatile game. So what does Kupchak do? Trade him anyway for nothing, instead of saying "hey Lamar, our bad."

I do give some credence to the Ariza stuff since I think he was looking for a big payday anyway. But he was instrumental in the Finals win.

GM blew it, man. And I pull for the Lakers every year, but when I saw them trying to basically trade the farm for an often-injured point guard who isn't even the best fit, I was shocked.

And honestly...people are talking about transitioning from Kobe...Shannon Brown's the kind of player you'd want. High flyer, good defense, capable of scoring on anyone. With some refinement, you've got yourself a future wing player to build around a nucleus involving guys like Deron Williams at the point and Bynum or Howard in the post.

Someone hire me.
The horror of trading Odom to get CP3.

Shannon doesn't play good defense and Mitch is far from the issue in LA.

Guess you got the high flying part right. ;)
 
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Dash28;4572996 said:
The horror of trading Odom to get CP3.

Shannon doesn't play good defense and Mitch is far from the issue in LA.

Guess you got the high flying part right. ;)

Mitch is the best GM in the league along with R.C. Buford.

He's not perfect and he has made some questionable moves just like every GM because he's made some incredible moves. Getting Pau Gasol for Kwamay Brown, signing Artest, refusing to trade Kobe and Drew, resigning LO then trading him and Pau for CP3. It's unfortunate he was screwed over by Stern and co.
 

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Cowboys&LakersFan;4572405 said:
Why? It doesn't make us better. We upgrade at PG so what? We downgrade at center.

First of all, you don't know what the trade might be. Secondly, in a post oriented offense, you gotta have a great PG and we don't have that.
 

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MK had to move Odom. His salary was big, if the Lakers wanted any chance at landing Howard or one of the top PGs or any key player, they had to cut salary. It would have had to have been Kobe, Gasal, Bynum or Odom. Of those four, the logical choice was Odom. Odom didn't fit the offense. His numbers were going to go down in Brown's system so I don't really have a problem with that move. I like Odom but the writing was pretty much on the wall. Kupchak could not have known that Stern would screw the Lakers or that none of the proposed deals would go through. I'm not all over him for that. The Salary Cap moves are driven by the owner, not Kupchak. If the owner says cut salary, then the GM finds a way to do that. That's not on Kupchak per say.
 

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And I pull for the Lakers every year, but when I saw them trying to basically trade the farm for an often-injured point guard who isn't even the best fit, I was shocked.
Why wouldn't CP3 fit the Lakers, especially now that they aren't running the triangle?

CP3 fits anywhere.
 

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just for the record, there were reasons why stern vetoed the CP3 trade, for one, it would give the hornets some pretty big contracts that didnt expire for a while, stern wanted to have as small amount of depth as possible for the new owner, and the clippers trade was a MUCH better business trade, which is what was needed to sell the team. secondly, dont forget that a lot of owners, including cuban, wanted the trade vetoed. In the end, the league was owned by the 31 owners of the league, and they ultimately had the final say, and for whatever reason, most of them wanted the trade vetoed, and so it was.
 
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