Sources: Cleveland has agreement to acquire Kevin Love, including contract commitment

[zrinkill]

What other team besides Cleveland has been mentioned in a thread about Cleveland acquiring Kevin Love? I don't even think Minnesota has been mentioned

Because Burm started his crap and it became about him and his hatred of the Spurs.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Because Burm started his crap and it became about him and his hatred of the Spurs.

You sure Amberbeer's comment and his hatred for everything "LeMe" didn't start this?

 

[Supercowboy1986]

this thread has served as a reminder why i hate the spurs and spurs fans. hilarious.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

this thread has served as a reminder why i hate the spurs and spurs fans. hilarious.

being in knick territory & growing up hating the celtics and lakers..... I had no idea.
I don't hate them (spurs fans)... but i am confused how every basketball conversation comes back to them.
I thought this thread was going to discuss the trade.... I thought wrong....
this thread is over for me... hopefully there's hope for the other NBA threads this season..... but i doubt it.

 

[burmafrd]

Because Burm started his crap and it became about him and his hatred of the Spurs.

laughing at you spurs homers because you just had to come into this thread and attack LeBron. So look in the mirror for someone to blame.

 

[bounce]

laughing at you spurs homers because you just had to come into this thread and attack LeBron. So look in the mirror for someone to blame.

There is literally not a single negative word about Lebron in any reply in this thread. From anybody. Not one single person has said something negative about Lebron James in any way on any reply on any page of this thread.

So what you said here is total nonsense not to mention simply incorrect. Thank you for your contribution.

 

[burmafrd]

There is literally not a single negative word about Lebron in any reply in this thread. From anybody. Not one single person has said something negative about Lebron James in any way on any reply on any page of this thread.

So what you said here is total nonsense not to mention simply incorrect. Thank you for your contribution.

'he did not see the arrow before it hit him'

now I probably have made that a little too difficult for you to understand but I have hope...

now why don't you address your fellow spurs homers who just had to jump into this thread and boast about themselves?

 

[zrinkill]

laughing at you spurs homers because you just had to come into this thread and attack LeBron. So look in the mirror for someone to blame.

How bout you man up and quote where someone attacked Lebron before you started your crybaby crap?

 

[jterrell]

I don't like the Spurs at all. In fact, they annoy me. But did you just call Tim Duncan "non-shot blocking" and then go on to question everyone else's basketball IQ?

He averaged 2.5-3 blocks for his whole career until a few years ago and still averages slightly less than 2 (1.9 last year, which was 5th in the league).

And, as I said earlier, the Cavs have no one who averages more than 0.5 and only one guy taller than 6'9".

first lets focus on BASIC facts that require zero intellect:
Cavs have FOUR players 6'10" or higher on the current roster. Varajao, Haywood, Murphy, Powell
When they trade for Kevin Love they will add another 6'10" player. ---possible but not mentioned that any of the above 6'10" or taller guys leave.
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/cle/cleveland-cavaliers

The Cavs have a handful of guys who average more than a half block a game.
I have no idea why you thought otherwise.
LeBron is at .8 per his career.

Now that we have covered the basic ability to check a roster let's move to the dicier stuff.

Tim Duncan as shot blocker.
You are absolutely correct in that Duncan is effective there and is definitely a plus defender.
You would be absolutely incorrect if you suggest anyone regards him as a shot blocker the past half dozen years.
He plays great positional defense and with enormous bball IQ but Duncan is not much of an athlete and is not a traditional rim protecting shot blocker.
I would certainly concede that is an underrated part of his game.

 

[jterrell]

bounce et al:
last season i argued with cowboysandlakers.
he was so frustrated that he ended up banned.
not from arguing with me mind you but because what i said would happen did.

you can quote articles written by various people telling us group think ideas which will absolutely prove to be false.
just try not to get banned when the painfully obvious does occur and CLE is good defensively.

none of those articles discuss the reality of the situation.
you take the games best athlete (if not overall player) and you add arguably the games best rebounder
and add that to a coach who teaches the princeton basketball system of pete carill??
that equates to excellence defensively. --look at blatt's teams... all VERY good defensively tho he is credited as being an offensive genius.

people that are writing about kyrie as the worst PG defender are simply tilting at windmills.
irving is a 6'3" 200 pound superb athlete who was playing aau style ball for a team that won 20 games next to a bunch of other kids.
of course he was terrible defensively.
that has next to nothing to do with how he will be play next to James and for Blatt on a playoff team where his offense will be utilized very differently.

people are posting that bosh and wade were above average defenders... uh yea, next to lebron or the 2 months each year wade was fully healthy.
neither of those guys are even solid defenders overall.
wade is too beaten up and bosh is too weak to defend the paint.
but it didn't matter because miami had enough pieces to play quality team defense.
so will CLE.

i watch about 1000 games a year of basketball combined at all levels.
i coach about 100.
i break down game tape of at least 50.
i study systems ranging from Calipari's dribble drive to Boeheim's 2-3 to Florida's suddenly popular man press.
we use a lot of what Pop has in for our teams.
the spread break offense and a handful of his in bounds plays.
the help side man to man get to the wall defense....
so yes i do believe i trump the majority of people in discussing basketball by a good margin.
but i am by no means infallible.
where there are actual basketball points for any of this i am more than willing to listen.
but we are not getting any real basketball discussion at all.

 

[bounce]

bounce et al:
last season i argued with cowboysandlakers.
he was so frustrated that he ended up banned.
not from arguing with me mind you but because what i said would happen did.

.....

i watch about 1000 games a year of basketball combined at all levels.
i coach about 100.
i break down game tape of at least 50.
i study systems ranging from Calipari's dribble drive to Boeheim's 2-3 to Florida's suddenly popular man press.
we use a lot of what Pop has in for our teams.
the spread break offense and a handful of his in bounds plays.
the help side man to man get to the wall defense....
so yes i do believe i trump the majority of people in discussing basketball by a good margin.
but i am by no means infallible.
where there are actual basketball points for any of this i am more than willing to listen.
but we are not getting any real basketball discussion at all.

I'm not sure if the first part is a thinly veiled threat or a shot across the bow, or what exactly you would call it - but I simply don't care about your message board quarrel record, so I'm not sure what your point even is.

The second section is quite an impressive resume. Most of which is that you have time to watch/coach/breakdown over 1150 games a year and still find time to pat yourself on the back for it. But, for someone as impressed with themselves as you are, and speaks with the condescension that you do, you'd think you coached the Olympic team.

But, if the absolute unthinkable is true, and you are just some guy on a message board who watches/plays and/or coaches sports on some level (like pretty much the rest of us) then I will continue to give your opinion little more credence than anyone else's, no matter how much you continue to tell us how much smarter than everyone you are.

I edited out the actual basketball part in the middle, because you've stated your opinion on it many times - just as I have stated mine. You'll continue to discount anything I say, and I will, you. I've been wrong on many things before, and I'll be wrong again. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. So, we'll just agree to disagree, and I'll bow out of this thread with the exact same opinion I came in with.

But, feel free to continue to tell us how much of an authority you are on sports, and how we should all revere you as such.

 

[joseephuss]

Tim Duncan isn't considered a shot blocker? Dwight Howard is considered a shot blocker. Both average 2.2 blocks per game for their career. I guess perspective matters.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Tim Duncan isn't considered a shot blocker? Dwight Howard is considered a shot blocker. Both average 2.2 blocks per game for their career. I guess perspective matters.

According to the basketball expert, he hasn't been a good shot blocker for 6 years, although he finished 5th in the league this year.

 

[DFWJC]

This makes them the favorites. Sports fans in Cleveland have to feel like they hit the lottery.

I think the Bulls are the favorites in the East and the Cavs are maybe top 6-7 in the league...maybe higher.

 

[jterrell]

I'm not sure if the first part is a thinly veiled threat or a shot across the bow, or what exactly you would call it - but I simply don't care about your message board quarrel record, so I'm not sure what your point even is.

The second section is quite an impressive resume. Most of which is that you have time to watch/coach/breakdown over 1150 games a year and still find time to pat yourself on the back for it. But, for someone as impressed with themselves as you are, and speaks with the condescension that you do, you'd think you coached the Olympic team.

But, if the absolute unthinkable is true, and you are just some guy on a message board who watches/plays and/or coaches sports on some level (like pretty much the rest of us) then I will continue to give your opinion little more credence than anyone else's, no matter how much you continue to tell us how much smarter than everyone you are.

I edited out the actual basketball part in the middle, because you've stated your opinion on it many times - just as I have stated mine. You'll continue to discount anything I say, and I will, you. I've been wrong on many things before, and I'll be wrong again. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. So, we'll just agree to disagree, and I'll bow out of this thread with the exact same opinion I came in with.

But, feel free to continue to tell us how much of an authority you are on sports, and how we should all revere you as such.

It is pretty simple.
I will be here all year.
We will see who is correct.

Not that complicated and nothing thinly veiled about it.

 

[burmafrd]

How bout you man up and quote where someone attacked Lebron before you started your crybaby crap?

how about you become a man first?

 

[zrinkill]

how about you become a man first?

So you got nothing .... huh boy.

As usual you cannot back up a thing you say.

 

[bounce]

It is pretty simple.
I will be here all year.
We will see who is correct.

Not that complicated and nothing thinly veiled about it.

Sure thing, Red.

 

[zrinkill]

this thread has served as a reminder why i hate the spurs and spurs fans. hilarious.

Feeling is mutual

 

[jterrell]

also FWIW this is a post I made last August:

As to the teams you mention the Jazz are in full out tank mode and are 0 threat.
Lakers are not a real threat. They were a 7 seed who just lost 2 starters and replaced them with air.
They also lost key bench members and replaced them with minimum wage scraps.

OKC, SAS, LAC, GSW are top seeds. LAC arguably right there though we need to see what that team looks like with Doc and if the young players can mesh better than they did in the playoffs.
Memphis is tough as nails but but a bad offensive team got arguably worse there this off-season.

Memphis, Rockets, Nuggets, Blazers and Mavs are legit contenders at 6-8 IMHO.
Rox have the best superstars and stars win in this league. But they have A LOT to prove and haven't really gotten out of the 1st round except once in 16 years. Take the 2nd bes tplayer of the 7 seed and pout him ont he 8 seed and well to me that doesn't equal top seed.... If they trade Asik the roster might make more sense and be more dangerous.
Dallas has the best talent of this group 1-10 and IMO the best coach. 2nd group is Harris, Ellington/VC, VC/Crowder, Blair, Wright.
Memphis has the toughness, inside presence and continuity but lacks scorers.
Nuggets have a some intriguing young guys that are crazy athletic and the thin air but a weird looking team with a new coach.
Blazers are built around Aldridge who lives in trade rumors. They may want to join the tankers.

I also had a Finals prediction of Thunder over Heat in 6 games with the Heat finally wearing down from all the long seasons as chief reasoning.