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Hostile;1908616 said:
I wasn't crying. I think if Sparano has some success it is a positive refelction upon the Cowboys.

i don't think he meant you hos, but the ones all in fear our run is done now.
 

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Hostile;1908616 said:
I wasn't crying. I think if Sparano has some success it is a positive refelction upon the Cowboys.

I was talking about the people who think wishing Sparano goodluck is somehow bad for the boys.
 

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zrinkill;1908625 said:
I was talking about the guy who commented

If you got something to say to me, then just say it. I'm not 'crying', I really don't care. Gut the whole coaching staff, makes no difference to me.
 

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Doomsday101;1908619 said:
I agree but do you think BP would want that setup if he was HC? How much power will Sparano have to control his own destiny? I’m not saying this will not work just interested to see how this all plays out.

I think Parcells trusts Sparano and Ireland and thats why he hired them. (of course he has already trained them in his thought process) There is no question in my mind, that Parcells will *correct* them if they deviate from Bill's way of doing things, or if Bill decides he wants to try something *new*.

Bill is now the Puppet Master, but he hired guys he trained so he doesn't have to be so hands on with the details.
 

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I would love to get Rex Ryan into the fold. He produces some scary defenses.
 

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Hostile;1908616 said:
I wasn't crying. I think if Sparano has some success it is a positive refelction upon the Cowboys.

Umm, yes and no. Most will perceive him as a Parcells guy and part of his legacy more than a Cowboys guy. I would think anyway.

Dolphins are one of those teams that will turn around and get better, same as the Pats are on the downside.
 

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Kilyin;1908628 said:
If you got something to say to me, then just say it. I'm not 'crying', I really don't care. Gut the whole coaching staff, makes no difference to me.

are you "the people" he must have meant more than 1 person.
 

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nyc;1908630 said:
I think Parcells trusts Sparano and Ireland and thats why he hired them. (of course he has already trained them in his thought process) There is no question in my mind, that Parcells will *correct* them if they deviate from Bill's way of doing things, or if Bill decides he wants to try something *new*.

Bill is now the Puppet Master, but he hired guys he trained so he doesn't have to be so hands on with the details.

Again though what you are describing is puppets with little say so to control their own destiny. This may work out and for Sparano and Ireland I hope it does because I think both are good people. As mentioned above I know BP would not want this if he was HC and had little say.
 

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Wade better get his little black book ready, because I don't think he's the last guy on our 2007 staff headed for Miami. The only assistant coach I would count on being back next year is Stewart and Sherman. And Read (gulp).
 

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I'm thinking that Garrett will turn down both the Ravens and Falcons offer to return to Dallas. I would like to see the Cowboys hire Solari (sp?) who was a good OL coach with KC before he took over KC OC job which he just fired from. Solari was viewed as a good OL coach and Phillips would have been familiar with his work since Chargers and KC in same division. Wouldn't be surprised if there already contact with Solari. Must admit I'd also like to see us hire Riveria as an asst coach if he interested in pursuing that option. He still remains close to the Cowboys (actually went on that Mexico jaunt with Romo & others) and Gurode & Colombo on several occasions mentioned how much help/guidance the experience Riveria provided them. Sure would like to see this happen.
 

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cowboyed;1908631 said:
I would love to get Rex Ryan into the fold. He produces some scary defenses.

I would too. I've never been a big Phillips fan. I would rather test my luck with Garrett calling the shots and having Rex Ryan running the defense. Rex Ryan is on the market right now to boot. I wanted Jerry to interview him last year, but that didn't happen.
 

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Doomsday101;1908636 said:
Again though what you are describing is puppets with little say so to control their own destiny. This may work out and for Sparano and Ireland I hope it does because I think both are good people. As mentioned above I know BP would not want this if he was HC and had little say.
In a perfect world, yes. My question to you is. If you were Sparano and had a chance to become a HC in the NFL would you turn it down? On top of that, you had Parcells drafting for you. That means you are going to get some pretty good talent to work with.

If anything, it will give you a good foundation for later in your career.
 

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nyc;1908647 said:
In a perfect world, yes. My question to you is. If you were Sparano and had a chance to become a HC in the NFL would you turn it down? On top of that, you had Parcells drafting for you. That means you are going to get some pretty good talent to work with.

If anything, it will give you a good foundation for later in your career.

don't you mean ireland drafting - i mean, he has final say on football matters, right?
 

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I'll admit to being one of "those in fear."

I posted this in the Daily Zone but I'll repeat it to illustrate my mindset:

The Sparano and (possible/probable) Garrett departures along with other assistants that follow them will mean the Cowboys, from a coaching perspective, will be starting from close to scratch again next season. We haven't been able to preserve continuity on our coaching staff since I can remember. The litany of coaching departures that continued even during the Parcells era now has reached ridiculous proportions.

I thought what happened to the Chargers last off-season resembled a group mugging but I felt that was partly self-inflicted with the firing of Schottenheimer. This time it's the Cowboys getting mugged. It's like salt is being rubbed into the wound that came on Sunday. The simple truth is, had the Cowboys won, our assistants would still be off limits and the raiding would have gone elsewhere as teams urgently sought coaches now to build a staff and to get ready for free-agency.

It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion because I know bad things are happening and I still can't take my eyes off of it. I've avoided all of the sports talk this week because I can't stand the words that are being said. I can't express how bitter this week is because the litany of bad news didn't stop with the loss of the game. It actually has accelerated as the week has progressed. I've been saying all season that Jerry was going to face a tough off-season, but I didn't understand until now how bad the early exit has affected the staff (and Jerry's plans).

Jerry made a lot of great decisions last year. He batted almost 1.000 and it still wasn't good enough. I know I'm still recovering from the loss on Sunday but the glass looks more than half empty to me and the words "13-3" sound hollow indeed.

How do the Cowboys recover from this? Jerry and Wade go back to work and build it all back up again. But for right now, things are gonna get worse before they start to get better.
 

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iceberg;1908624 said:
i don't think he meant you hos, but the ones all in fear our run is done now.

zrinkill;1908625 said:
I was talking about the people who think wishing Sparano goodluck is somehow bad for the boys.

Kilyin;1908628 said:
If you got something to say to me, then just say it. I'm not 'crying', I really don't care. Gut the whole coaching staff, makes no difference to me.

iceberg;1908633 said:
are you "the people" he must have meant more than 1 person.
It isn't worth the gas it caused guys. I just misread it. No big deal.
 

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Doomsday101;1908636 said:
Again though what you are describing is puppets with little say so to control their own destiny. This may work out and for Sparano and Ireland I hope it does because I think both are good people. As mentioned above I know BP would not want this if he was HC and had little say.

Perception doesn't always match reality.

Perception says that Parcells is an overbearing control freak who dominates people and acts as a dictator.

Reality says that people LOVE to work for Bill Parcells. Sparano and Ireland aren't fools.
 

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iceberg;1908649 said:
don't you mean ireland drafting - i mean, he has final say on football matters, right?

Ireland will do the firing of Sparano if he gets out of line. ;) Beyond that duty, he is just the head scout who brings the drafting (and FA) possibilities to Parcells for final say. :laugh2:

Like I said, Parcells is the Puppet Master.
 

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nyc;1908647 said:
In a perfect world, yes. My question to you is. If you were Sparano and had a chance to become a HC in the NFL would you turn it down? On top of that, you had Parcells drafting for you. That means you are going to get some pretty good talent to work with.

If anything, it will give you a good foundation for later in your career.

That clearly is possiable should this workout and the Dolphins are successful. However if I felt I was a top prospect to become a HC I would want to take a job where I had a bigger say in what is going on I would not want a puppet job no matter who is drafting. It is called being in control of you own fate. I like Spranao and he made his choice and I hope it works out but with some other offers out there I think I would have passed on the Miami job in favor of one of the other teams showing interest. I do think sometimes guys jump at jobs that in the end they wished they would not have.
 

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superpunk;1908654 said:
Perception doesn't always match reality.

Perception says that Parcells is an overbearing control freak who dominates people and acts as a dictator.

Reality says that people LOVE to work for Bill Parcells. Sparano and Ireland aren't fools.

BP has said time and again as a HC how he wants to buy the grocerys and that is what he will be doing now so how much control will Sparano really have? As for them being fools hell people take bad jobs even in the NFL. They made their choice I hope it works for them but if I was in Sparano shoes yes I would be more interested in a team where I have a bit more control over what is going on instead of being anyone's puppet.
 
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