Speculating on Tony Romo's trade value **merged**

[darthseinfeld]

And if he comes back and play the rest of the season with no issues and he looks like Tony?

Then he should still retire or be traded. 3 broken bones in 91 snaps

 

[HTownCowboysFan]

LOVE what Dak is doing, but hold on...

As someone who grew up a Cowboys fan with Roger and White, I thought that we just would always have great QB's. Hell, despite a blip in the late 80s, we went from Danny to Troy pretty much.

I was SPOILED...and so was #cowboyszone of that vintage.

Bottom line: #9 is still better than #4 RIGHT NOW and gives us a better chance of winning, well, right now. Thus, Tony should take over once he's ready to, well, take over. BUT...

We've got our QB of the (near) future y'all and we won't have to go through the Carter and Company days post-Troy.

*drops the mic*

 

[Nightman]

Trading Romo, easily the most unlikely hypothetical I've read here.

Not to be mean but you better get used to it...... most of it is being driven by the National media..... every good game Dak plays another talking head says Romo will never play in DAL again.....it is how they operate and it trickles down....every story is who is going to be a FA and teams have to trade him or lose him for nothing....where is this coach going..........blah blah blah

No one enjoys the moment anymore......they immediately ask Champs if they are coming back or if they need to sign a Durant

 

[rafaelgreco]

http://dal.247sports.com/Bolt/Tony-Romo-linked-to-Jets-QB-situation-48021991


It’s not a trade secret that Ryan Fitzpatrick is struggling mightily right now.

He’s been intercepted 10 times while throwing only four touchdowns, has two more picks than the entire NFC East, has half as many turnovers in the red zone as the rest of the quarterbacks in the game, and is on pace for 40, two shy of the NFL record.

Many have called for relief from among the three other passers on the roster, with Geno Smith the most likely option. But, according to one league source in conversation with NJ Advance Media, it was another name entirely that came up in the conversation.

Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo.

 

[KJJ]

I heard you say you would guarantee it. I know you think you can guarantee that. I'm just saying your guarantee is worthless because it isn't based on anything and you have no control over or unique insight into the factors you're trying to guarantee.

I brought up Trent Richards not because his age was in any way relevant to my point, obviously, but because he was an example of a truly unexpected trade for a first round pick that *nobody* saw coming. The fact that many (most) thought it was foolish at the time supports my point, and not yours. Sometimes, teams take big risks for perceived upside.

I am completely serious bringing up the Montana comparison. QBs don't win Superbowls, btw, they play in them. And teams need good QB play to compete for them at all. I don't overweigh Tony's collarbone breaks the way you clearly are, but agree that the chronic back problem is an issue. Tony's a unique player, though, in a league starved for QBs. There's no perfect analog for what he's worth at this point, but it's not a stretch to believe that there's probably a fairly large variance in how teams might perceive his worth. Just like there is here in this thread.

The thing about the NFL, though, is it only takes one team for me to be right, whereas it takes 31 for you to be right. Guaranty, or no.

My comment was pretty simple and you made into something complicated. I'm saying "if" Romo is traded I guarantee we won't get a first round pick for him. There's plenty of factors for me to make that guarantee and they're all based on Romo's age and his injuries that have cost him 16 straight regular season games and counting the past 2 seasons. His injuries three of which have been to his back the past 4 years have made him a liability. He has to take off practices each week to try and keep him healthy. QBs are credited with winning SB's and games we've been through that. Montana's legacy and 4 SB wins made him very attractive to KC which prompted them to offer SF a #1 for him. KC felt they were close and Montana and his magic might put them over the top. It was much like Denver going after an aging Peyton Manning who was coming off an injury. There was no trade involved but that was comparable to the Montana situation because both QBs were future HOFers who've won championships.

As for Trent Richardson the only surprise was Cleveland trading him. He had a promising rookie season and wasn't seen as a bust at that time. Mike Holmgren who had been the Browns GM said he would have resigned had he still held the position had he been forced by the ownership to trade Richardson. The first round pick the Browns got for him was no surprise because he had been a top 5 pick just 2 years earlier. Most felt the Colts got the better end of the deal. Obviously looking back now, the Browns made the right decision but at the time the trade looked like a stupid move by a team that lacked talent. Anyone that would give up a #1 for Romo who's become a china doll would be pretty foolish, unless they would be okay with 2 years of maybe 8-10 games per season out of him if they're lucky.

You're open to trading Romo after next season when he'll be 38. His trade value would practically be nill at that point. I'm not so sure he'll even last until the 2018 season. If Dak continues to improve and we keep winning and Romo never sees the field this season, it would be very difficult to trade him for anything worth while because no one will know if he can still play. He's going to have to get on the field this season and show he can still play after this latest injury and that he can take a hit. No one is going to risk a decent draft pick on a 37 year old QB who's only played 4 games in 2 years and is coming off a broken back.

 

[xwalker]

Let's face it, something’s got to give when it comes to the Cowboys’ QB situation. Romo is due to make a lot of money, and probably still thinks - maybe rightfully so - that he has a lot left in the tank, but can you really picture him as this team’s starting QB another 3-4 years?

At this point, with the way Dak Prescott is playing, that just seems like a flat out impossibility. You can’t sit this kid that long. He’s ready now.

So a decision must be made. If I'm being completely honest, it's hard to envision a scenario where both Romo and Prescott are on this team next year. I don't think we can happily keep both beyond this season, and in situations like this across the sports landscape, 99.9% of the time, organization’s will go with the young guy.

Hypothetically speaking, what do you think are some interesting trade scenarios for Romo, and what could we get for him?

It’s hard to find a comparison for a 37-year-old, still elite (when healthy) QB being available on the trade market.

Carson Palmer in 2011, coming off a knee injury and early retirement, fetched a first and second rounder from the Raiders, and he hadn’t had nearly the career success up to that point that Romo has. But then again, that was the Raiders, a group notorious around that time for making poor front office decisions across the board. I don’t know if there’s any front office in the league desperate enough to make a deal like that now and besides, Palmer was a lot younger at that point than Romo is now.

Here are some situations that stick out to me.


Denver - They’ve proven they can win it all with below average QB play, but let’s say they get knocked out early this year and it’s all because of poor QB play. Siemian isn’t a long-term answer, and maybe they want to trade for a vet to bridge the gap a couple of years until Lynch is fully ready. Elway is too shrewd to overpay for Romo though.

New York Jets - Big city, bright lights, pretty good team but so much uncertainty at QB. You can make a lot of headlines in that city with Tony Romo at QB.

Los Angeles Rams - Would really depend how much they believe in Goff. Big city, Rams are back, they want to make waves. What better way to make a splash in Hollywood than trotting out Tony Romo as your QB for a couple of years?

Arizona - Arians is the QB whisperer. Palmer is the same age as Romo, and has done great for the Cardinals, but he’s struggled in the biggest moments, and injuries are certainly an issue (which may make them hesitant to go after Romo), but if they feel like he can get them over the hump, this is the perfect “contender needing one last piece” situation for Romo.

Kansas City - Very good football team with very mediocre QB play. Andy Reid seems so married to Alex Smith that it’s hard to imagine this move being made, but Romo might take them from very good to elite.

Miami - They’re paying Tannehill a lot of money, but this is an organization that is constantly trying to sell tickets and stay relevant. If they have to sit through another mediocre season from Tannehill, I could see them making this move to buy some time until they find their QB of the future.

His contract is big. That would limit interest from several teams. Denver already didn't want to risk a big contract on a QB, so paying big money to Romo AND giving up draft picks seems unlikely.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Romo rumors to the Jets already happening.

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...starter-new-york-already-starting-chatter?f=r

LOL LOL LOL

 

[hornitosmonster]

You send him to Denver or Arizona they probably win a Superbowl that year.

 

[Blake]

Then he should still retire or be traded. 3 broken bones in 91 snaps

yut.

 

[KJJ]

2 seasons of Romo is worth a first to a dozen franchises

Name these dozen franchises? You claimed you did but only listed 8 teams and not one of them would give up a #1 and other picks for Romo. You weren't talking about teams just wanting to trade for Romo, you claimed you could name a dozen teams that would give up a #1 and none that you listed would give up that much for him. These are the 8 teams you listed and you need 4 more to complete the dozen you claimed you had.

WAS, CHI, SF, ARI, MIA, NYJ, CLE are a few that would be interested and that is before any injuries

Sure BEFORE injuries but not now. lol AZ has fallen and none of the other teams are even close to being SB teams. Washington wouldn't give up a #1 for Romo, he suffered a meltdown against them in 2012 with the division title and a playoff birth on the line. You've listed teams that an aging, injury prone QB isn't going to be able to carry and that's what Romo would have to do with most of those teams. Miami isn't given up on Tannehill for Romo. lol That's a laughable list!

 

[85Cowboy85]

His contract is big. That would limit interest from several teams. Denver already didn't want to risk a big contract on a QB, so paying big money to Romo AND giving up draft picks seems unlikely.

They offered Osweiler 16 million a year plus 30 million guaranteed over three years. I think offering Osweiler 30 million guaranteed is a pretty big risk regardless of whether they signed him or not.

As I understand the salary cap when a player is traded their signing bonus accelerates into the cap just as if they were released. But this also means that whoever trades for Romo would be on the hook for his base salary, which is not guaranteed.

20 million per year in base salary with no guaranteed money is a steal for a QB.

In 2012 Peyton Manning coming off what many thought would be a career ending neck injury got a 5 year 96 million dollar deal with significant amounts of guaranteed money. Roughly 60 million of it was guaranteed with some protection for the broncos in the event of another neck injury.
http://www.denverpost.com/2012/03/2...l-with-broncos-includes-neck-injury-clause-2/

The bigger question with the Broncos is how much do they like Trevor Siemian.

 

[Coy]

You send him to Denver or Arizona they probably win a Superbowl that year.

I would actually love to see what all the hater would say.

 

[darthseinfeld]

His contract is big. That would limit interest from several teams. Denver already didn't want to risk a big contract on a QB, so paying big money to Romo AND giving up draft picks seems unlikely.

From what Ive heard the wanted Osweiler back. Osweiler didnt return there calls though.

Either way Denver is in no way shape or form hurting at QB. Both Seimian and Lynch have looked very good so far and to the point one could be a trade asset during the offseason. I dont see them giving up a premium pick for Romo. If anyone is willing to pony up, I would think NYJ or Buffalo who can move on from Taylor in the offseason. They have the option to get out of that deal this offseason. Taylor is due 27 milliom in 2017 if they pick it up

 

[DandyDon52]

Interesting. Maybe, but Tony doesn't have a great reputation when it counts. Two wild card wins in 11 yrs is not a great trading point for a SB contender.

Well look at bradford, he was worth a # 1 and he has never made playoffs, and has 2 bad knees.
Sanchez I dont know what his value was, cutler,oswieler none of those had won anything.

Many teams would see tony as a guy they could get more out than dallas did.

 

[darthseinfeld]

They offered Osweiler 16 million a year plus 30 million guaranteed over three years. I think offering Osweiler 30 million guaranteed is a pretty big risk regardless of whether they signed him or not.

As I understand the salary cap when a player is traded their signing bonus accelerates into the cap just as if they were released. But this also means that whoever trades for Romo would be on the hook for his base salary, which is not guaranteed.

20 million per year in base salary with no guaranteed money is a steal for a QB.

In 2012 Peyton Manning coming off what many thought would be a career ending neck injury got a 5 year 96 million dollar deal with significant amounts of guaranteed money. Roughly 60 million of it was guaranteed with some protection for the broncos in the event of another neck injury.
http://www.denverpost.com/2012/03/2...l-with-broncos-includes-neck-injury-clause-2/

The bigger question with the Broncos is how much do they like Trevor Siemian.

This is correct.

With Denver its more about Lynch then Siemian. I think they are likely to trade Siemian if he has a solid season unless he blows them away. Lynch looked very good when Siemian went down. Like Wentz amd Prescott he seems more advanced then people originally thought

 

[haleyrules]

Well look at bradford, he was worth a # 1 and he has never made playoffs, and has 2 bad knees.
Sanchez I dont know what his value was, cutler,oswieler none of those had won anything.

Many teams would see tony as a guy they could get more out than dallas did.

Wow. Bradford was a shock thats for sure. Never know what other FO's are thinking.

 

[NextGenBoys]

Let's face it, something’s got to give when it comes to the Cowboys’ QB situation. Romo is due to make a lot of money, and probably still thinks - maybe rightfully so - that he has a lot left in the tank, but can you really picture him as this team’s starting QB another 3-4 years?

At this point, with the way Dak Prescott is playing, that just seems like a flat out impossibility. You can’t sit this kid that long. He’s ready now.

So a decision must be made. If I'm being completely honest, it's hard to envision a scenario where both Romo and Prescott are on this team next year. I don't think we can happily keep both beyond this season, and in situations like this across the sports landscape, 99.9% of the time, organization’s will go with the young guy.

Hypothetically speaking, what do you think are some interesting trade scenarios for Romo, and what could we get for him?

It’s hard to find a comparison for a 37-year-old, still elite (when healthy) QB being available on the trade market.

Carson Palmer in 2011, coming off a knee injury and early retirement, fetched a first and second rounder from the Raiders, and he hadn’t had nearly the career success up to that point that Romo has. But then again, that was the Raiders, a group notorious around that time for making poor front office decisions across the board. I don’t know if there’s any front office in the league desperate enough to make a deal like that now and besides, Palmer was a lot younger at that point than Romo is now.

Here are some situations that stick out to me.


Denver - They’ve proven they can win it all with below average QB play, but let’s say they get knocked out early this year and it’s all because of poor QB play. Siemian isn’t a long-term answer, and maybe they want to trade for a vet to bridge the gap a couple of years until Lynch is fully ready. Elway is too shrewd to overpay for Romo though.

New York Jets - Big city, bright lights, pretty good team but so much uncertainty at QB. You can make a lot of headlines in that city with Tony Romo at QB.

Los Angeles Rams - Would really depend how much they believe in Goff. Big city, Rams are back, they want to make waves. What better way to make a splash in Hollywood than trotting out Tony Romo as your QB for a couple of years?

Arizona - Arians is the QB whisperer. Palmer is the same age as Romo, and has done great for the Cardinals, but he’s struggled in the biggest moments, and injuries are certainly an issue (which may make them hesitant to go after Romo), but if they feel like he can get them over the hump, this is the perfect “contender needing one last piece” situation for Romo.

Kansas City - Very good football team with very mediocre QB play. Andy Reid seems so married to Alex Smith that it’s hard to imagine this move being made, but Romo might take them from very good to elite.

Miami - They’re paying Tannehill a lot of money, but this is an organization that is constantly trying to sell tickets and stay relevant. If they have to sit through another mediocre season from Tannehill, I could see them making this move to buy some time until they find their QB of the future.

I've brought up KC for years as a team that would be best suited for Romo besides Dallas. You put him with Charles and that defense and they're a legit Super Bowl contender.

 

[shabazz]

If they would take his contract i'd take 7 pounds of bacon, Hillary's jockstrap, and a bag of farts

 

[marius]

He would get a 1st round pick minimum.....QB are gold in this league and GMs need to win now

Even though Dallas fans don't beleive it, Romo is elite and a ton of teams would love to have him

Dak would fetch multiple 1sts but I don't advise trading either......it would be best to work out a new contract with Romo after this year

i dont think anyone will trade a first rounder for Romo at this time, but maybe the jets will trade muhammad wilkerson for romo, similar contracts and boot wins

 

[Idgit]

My comment was pretty simple and you made into something complicated. I'm saying "if" Romo is traded I guarantee we won't get a first round pick for him. There's plenty of factors for me to make that guarantee and they're all based on Romo's age and his injuries that have cost him 16 straight regular season games and counting the past 2 seasons. His injuries three of which have been to his back the past 4 years have made him a liability. He has to take off practices each week to try and keep him healthy. QBs are credited with winning SB's and games we've been through that. Montana's legacy and 4 SB wins made him very attractive to KC which prompted them to offer SF a #1 for him. KC felt they were close and Montana and his magic might put them over the top. It was much like Denver going after an aging Peyton Manning who was coming off an injury. There was no trade involved but that was comparable to the Montana situation because both QBs were future HOFers who've won championships.

As for Trent Richardson the only surprise was Cleveland trading him. He had a promising rookie season and wasn't seen as a bust at that time. Mike Holmgren who had been the Browns GM said he would have resigned had he still held the position had he been forced by the ownership to trade Richardson. The first round pick the Browns got for him was no surprise because he had been a top 5 pick just 2 years earlier. Most felt the Colts got the better end of the deal. Obviously looking back now, the Browns made the right decision but at the time the trade looked like a stupid move by a team that lacked talent. Anyone that would give up a #1 for Romo who's become a china doll would be pretty foolish, unless they would be okay with 2 years of maybe 8-10 games per season out of him if they're lucky.

You're open to trading Romo after next season when he'll be 38. His trade value would practically be nill at that point. I'm not so sure he'll even last until the 2018 season. If Dak continues to improve and we keep winning and Romo never sees the field this season, it would be very difficult to trade him for anything worth while because no one will know if he can still play. He's going to have to get on the field this season and show he can still play after this latest injury and that he can take a hit. No one is going to risk a decent draft pick on a 37 year old QB who's only played 4 games in 2 years and is coming off a broken back.

I didn't complicate anything. I pointed out you tried to guarantee something you can't guarantee. Pretty straightforward.

As far as trading Romo goes, multiple teams would be interested if he were on the market today, and they'd easily put a conditional trade in place based off of future productivity. It won't happen, because he's too valuable to trade, but any number of deals could be put in place.