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50cent

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with a little
John Abraham in FA
LeCharles Bentley in FA
Andra Davis in FA
Marcus McNeil in the draft
and a FS in FA or draft
then call me champion!
 

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50cent said:
with a little
John Abraham in FA
LeCharles Bentley in FA
Andra Davis in FA
Marcus McNeil in the draft
and a FS in FA or draft
then call me champion!
I agree except for Abraham (too much money, we're not in the same salary cap spot we were in last year). Also, an improved offense will make this defense look even better, so the money is better spent on offense. Bentley would be a great signing. Jerry should "show him the money."

I would take the FS from LSU (can't remember his name right off hand) in the first round, then O-lineman/LBs in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
 

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theogt said:
I agree except for Abraham (too much money, we're not in the same salary cap spot we were in last year). Also, an improved offense will make this defense look even better, so the money is better spent on offense. Bentley would be a great signing. Jerry should "show him the money."
Ill defer to AdamJT on this on, but according to him we are in the same spot FA wise as last year. There is alot of money of dead money that comes off the books and the Cap increases as well. Abrahams tactics by not playing will cost him money, and thats where BP comes into play. We can afford him regardless, we just have to get him on "The Jet"!
 

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Sprinkle me with whatever drugs you are doing.

You can't buy a winner.

You should become a Commanders fan if you think that is the way to go.
 

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50cent said:
Ill defer to AdamJT on this on, but according to him we are in the same spot FA wise as last year. There is alot of money of dead money that comes off the books and the Cap increases as well. Abrahams tactics by not playing will cost him money, and thats where BP comes into play. We can afford him regardless, we just have to get him on "The Jet"!
If true, that'd be nice. I've just heard otherwise. What are abrahams abilities in pass coverage, though? Has he played much LB?
 

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theogt said:


ask the patriiots...you know the winners of 3 of 4 SB, you know with a 6th round QB, and you know that team, that really had a bunch nobdoy's until there SB runs.

I dont think they were bought.
 

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show me one team that did it with tons of big money FA signings.
You show me one that did it without one single FA.
 

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You show me one that did it without one single FA.

That wasn't my point. You are asking for another 3 huge FA signings to go with the 3 big ones (plus Glenn) we had. That is how you screw your team, not how you build a winner.

But I guess your beloved Commanders do it that way so you think that's the way to go.
 

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I actually don't think going after Abraham and Bentley would constitue trying to "buy" a team. Abraham, being a guy Parcells brought into this league, would likely be able to fit in our scheme. And pretty much everyone is saying we need to upgrade the offensive line, so I don't think the Bentley idea is a bad one at all.

And I don't know if I'd consider Andra Davis a "marquee" signing, so I don't see that suggestion as one that implies buying a team.
 

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I'd be flat out shocked if this team went FS in 1. I'd be very surprised if they went FS in 2.

Way too many other important holes to fill. I don't think the team values FS.

I'd rather spend the 1 and 2 drafting players at impact positions where holes currently exist. OLB/ILB, WR, OT or maybe even NT.
 

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I read this last week where JJ said due to all of the free agent signings this last
off season that it could cause us some cap problems down the road.
 

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Dale said:
I actually don't think going after Abraham and Bentley would constitue trying to "buy" a team. Abraham, being a guy Parcells brought into this league, would likely be able to fit in our scheme. And pretty much everyone is saying we need to upgrade the offensive line, so I don't think the Bentley idea is a bad one at all.

And I don't know if I'd consider Andra Davis a "marquee" signing, so I don't see that suggestion as one that implies buying a team.

Son, stop angling for a job over at Commanders.com -- you know danny snyder doesn't read this board. :laugh2:
 

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abersonc said:
That wasn't my point. You are asking for another 3 huge FA signings to go with the 3 big ones (plus Glenn) we had. That is how you screw your team, not how you build a winner.

But I guess your beloved Commanders do it that way so you think that's the way to go.
What the hell is with this Commander stuff? Yes I'm asking to improve a team that needs improvement, by whatever means necessary. Glenn was a trade with GB and the other cost us very little. Signing players that can produce don't hurt teams. Signing players that can't produce or don't even play for you once you sign them are what ruin teams. The Commanders paid too much money for players past their primes. I.E. - Deion Sanders, Bruce, Barrow, Brunnell and players that were one year wonders. Respond when you have a clue about the topic at hand.
 

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abersonc said:
Son, stop angling for a job over at Commanders.com -- you know danny snyder doesn't read this board. :laugh2:

lol.

This will be an interesting offseason because we have to balance what you're saying (not buying a team) versus doing what we did in the 2004 offseason (standing pat after a playoff season).

We're going to have to make some external improvements, and not just with a draft pick or two IMO. We simply can't expect/hope for young players to emerge at every struggling position.

But, yeah, we also cannot go out and ruin team chemistry. I'd be surprised, though, if there isn't at least one significant signing -- perhaps one on each side of the ball.

And speaking of Snyder, I think his biggest problem is that he just doesn't have an eye for talent. Throughout his infamous offseasons, he has pursued names -- not talent.

Bruce Smith, Deion Sanders, Jeff George, etc. look great on the back of a jersey, but don't win many games for you when they're all in their mid-to-late 30s. Plus, he pursued guys with a variety of backgrounds and personalities that simply did not mix well with the talent they already had.

I don't think Abraham, giving his connections with Parcells, and Bentley, given our need for an offensive lineman, are far-fetched ideas at all. Abraham, perhaps, given the money involved for another pass rusher.
 

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Unless a defensive stud is available when we draft , I think we go Offense this draft like we did defense this past draft.

In free agency I would go after Lecharles Bentley and call it a day....
Centers like Bentley only come around every ten years or so and this years draft is not loaded at center.

Dallas has a very young defense and I think the only thing from stopping them from being dominent is experience...

Cowboys obviousy need an infusion of youth and play makers on offense.
 

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50cent said:
What the hell is with this Commander stuff? Yes I'm asking to improve a team that needs improvement, by whatever means necessary. Glenn was a trade with GB and the other cost us very little. Signing players that can produce don't hurt teams. Signing players that can't produce or don't even play for you once you sign them are what ruin teams. The Commanders paid too much money for players past their primes. I.E. - Deion Sanders, Bruce, Barrow, Brunnell and players that were one year wonders. Respond when you have a clue about the topic at hand.

Umm, pretty much most guys that hit FA are going to be on the downside of their careers if their current team is willing to let them go.

Of course you don't learn that playing Madden '06.

Now I'm not saying the guys you like wouldn't be great additions. But if 1 or 2 don't live up to expectations you put yourself in a corner that you can't get out of for years without taking a massive cap hit
 

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abersonc said:
Umm, pretty much most guys that hit FA are going to be on the downside of their careers if their current team is willing to let them go.

Of course you don't learn that playing Madden '06.

Now I'm not saying the guys you like wouldn't be great additions. But if 1 or 2 don't live up to expectations you put yourself in a corner that you can't get out of for years without taking a massive cap hit

But that's the thing. Abraham and Bentley will both be like 27 or 28 this coming off-season if I'm not mistaken. They have plenty of years left, if you ask me, which is why I'm in favor of these two particular signinngs.
 

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theogt said:
I agree except for Abraham (too much money, we're not in the same salary cap spot we were in last year). Also, an improved offense will make this defense look even better, so the money is better spent on offense. Bentley would be a great signing. Jerry should "show him the money."

I would take the FS from LSU (can't remember his name right off hand) in the first round, then O-lineman/LBs in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

I'll take Bentley. He should be our top priority going into the offseason. Gurode is probably gone. Take either Santonio Holmes or LB Carpenter in the first and Laron Landry in the second. Get Flo back 100%, get Burnett to turn the corner, and draft another young OL for depth, we'll be downright scary.
 
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