News: ST: Cowboys coach Jason Garrett explains clock management decisions at end of Commanders game

[CowboyRoy]

so after mods had to delete all your nonsense, you now want things to be civil.

hey, I'm all for it. now please show us this proof that McFadden was not told to go out of bounds. I know Garrett wanted him to stay in bounds, and I posted the proof of that

you keep making claims with no proof. back up your claims please.

I was never even talking to you buddy and you insulted me. But I will play along. Where is this proof that he told McFadden to stay in bounds? If you posted it earlier then please do me the favor of posting it again. If you care to continue this conversation.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I tell him to score.

I am never scared about going up 7 points late in the game.

And I would never let the other team score. I have seen too many goal line stands and missed FGs to play that kind of football.

Wow, ok. Well there is nothing more to discuss.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

I was never even talking to you buddy and you insulted me. But I will play along. Where is this proof that he told McFadden to stay in bounds? If you posted it earlier then please do me the favor of posting it again. If you care to continue this conversation.

you called every supporter of the head coach of this team names, and I reported it.

I never claimed he was told to stay in bounds. you made the claim he was not told, it is your responsibility to prove your claim.

prove it

 

[CowboyRoy]

I am talking about the 2nd ad 1 play, of course I accept McFadden´s dumb play when he went out of bounds, that was stupid.

I tell him to score.

I am never scared about going up 7 points late in the game.

And I would never let the other team score. I have seen too many goal line stands and missed FGs to play that kind of football.

Ok, so lets move on to after the score. Do you allow your defensive coordinator to use man to man, one on one coverage on Desean Jackson when only a TD can tie the game?

 

[Nightman]

Wow, ok. Well there is nothing more to discuss.

It's sad that some are so afraid of taking a 7 pt lead because of what the other team might possibly do in under a minute.

I will take a 7 point lead over clock games any day.

Bird in the hand.

 

[Coy]

Ok, so lets move on to after the score. Do you allow your defensive coordinator to use man to man, one on one coverage on Desean Jackson when only a TD can tie the game?

LOL, no need to discuss further.

 

[Nightman]

Ok, so lets move on to after the score. Do you allow your defensive coordinator to use man to man, one on one coverage on Desean Jackson when only a TD can tie the game?

Claiborne one on one with DJackson was moronic when they need a TD.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Serious question, what scenario would you prefer if you are Dallas.

1. There are 3 seconds left on the clock and you need a 20 yard field goal (old extra point) to win a game that is tied.

2. There is 1 minute and 14 seconds left in the game and you are leading by 7 but you are kicking off and the other team has 2 timeouts left.

Your problem here is that you are only considering your preferred outcome. People that are concerned about your choice aren't thinking only about those scenarios.

They are worried that a belly play on second or third down doesn't get the first, we only get a field goal and instead of being up a TD with a minute left we are up a FG with a minute left. Now your way sucks and that is not the only way that it can backfire. We had a GW FG blocked and returned against this same team in the same scenario 2 years ago.

There is a train of thought that you can overthink things in football. It's a team sport and if you call something that you have prepared it's one thing but I don't think people have really thought through what they expect from Garrett. The only way that Garrett can communicate with the players is through Cassell's helmet in the first however many seconds of the game clock. Other than that he has to call a time out.

If you want him to call that timeout to implement your plan then fine but this is not fantasy football. There are realities to what we ask of these people. I think that there is another train of thought that goes "this back just screwed up and I don't trust him right now to do very much. If he screws it up and fumbles the ball again or worse then I lose. I do not want that to happen when he has the yips. Who know what will happen if I call timeout and make a spectacle of it?"

DMC was a hedcase that day and was behaving erratically. Getting stood up once on an inside run is one thing but he wasn't right in the head. Asking him to drop at the 3 yard line is not as sure fire as people make it seem.

 

[Blake]

It's sad that some are so afraid of taking a 7 pt lead because of what the other team might possibly do in under a minute.

I will take a 7 point lead over clock games any day.

Bird in the hand.

The other team scored did they not?

 

[Eric_Boyer]

LOL, no need to discuss further.

I hope by LOL , you realize how absurd it is to blame an offensive minded head coach for defensive schemes late in a ball game.

 

[CowboyRoy]

you called every supporter of the head coach of this team names, and I reported it.

I never claimed he was told to stay in bounds. you made the claim he was not told, it is your responsibility to prove your claim.

prove it

you called every supporter of the head coach of this team names, and I reported it.

I never claimed he was told to stay in bounds. you made the claim he was not told, it is your responsibility to prove your claim.

prove it

I see, so you have no proof. That is what I thought.

Well, your claim that Garrett specifically told them to stay in bounds and he ran out is ridiculous.

So lets move on here.

So its 2nd and 1. Do you tell Mcfadden to go down after he picks up the first down or run all the way into the endzone?

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Well, your claim that Garrett specifically told them to stay in bounds and he ran out is ridiculous.

you are lying. nowhere did I say this in this thread or any other.

 

[Nightman]

The other team scored did they not?

and there was still enough time for us to score again and win.

if McFadden stayed in bounds DAL would not have had enough time to win it.

close a door and open a window

 

[Tabascocat]

I tell him to score.

I am never scared about going up 7 points late in the game.

And I would never let the other team score. I have seen too many goal line stands and missed FGs to play that kind of football.

I don't want to get involved in the unfriendly banter, but if there ever were a time to let a team score..........that was the time to do so for Washington. But, I don't think they let DMC score on purpose there.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I hope by LOL , you realize how absurd it is to blame an offensive minded head coach for defensive schemes late in a ball game.

Its only absurd if you think Garrett is a lackey head coach that has no control over the team he is supposed to run.

So lets review here:

-Its absurd that the head coach can advise his DC to make sure he is not single covering thier big deep threat.

-Garrett told Mcfadden to stay in bounds and he forgot

Is that about right? LOL

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Its only absurd if you think Garrett is a lackey head coach that has no control over the team he is supposed to run.

So lets review here:

-Its absurd that the head coach can advise his DC to make sure he is not single covering thier big deep threat.

-Garrett told Mcfadden to stay in bounds and he forgot

Is that about right? LOL

until you correct your lie, we can't proceed. other people more reasonable then you to reply to.

 

[CowboyRoy]

and there was still enough time for us to score again and win.

if McFadden stayed in bounds DAL would not have had enough time to win it.

close a door and open a window

So now you are supporting McFadden running out of bounds?

Which is it?

 

[CowboyRoy]

until you correct your lie, we can't proceed. other people more reasonable then you to reply to.

LOL.......like who? I am the only one talking to you. And Im only talking to you because its funny. Your support of Garrett truly shows no bounds. Even at your own peril. This is truly why the Cowboys are the laughing stock of the NFL.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

you are lying. nowhere did I say this in this thread or any other.

bump

for fans that don't know, the coach and qb can talk through helmet communications, not the coach and running back.

the coach would of had to waste a timeout to talk to the rb about staying in bounds.

two mistakes were made on our drive.

1) we snapped the ball before the two minute warning, when we didn't need to. someone made a mistake, likely the head coach, but even here the instructions may of been to try to draw them off sides. sure, not likely, but we as fans have to accept we are ignorant of what is said.

2) we should never of went out of bounds. 2nd and 8 with the clock moving would be better then 2nd and 1 with the clock stopped, but we don't know what Garrett told the QB, and what the QB said in the huddle. we can't blame anyone for sure, except the Rb that has been in this league a long time, and went out of bounds.

 

[bkeavs]

you called every supporter of the head coach of this team names, and I reported it.

I never claimed he was told to stay in bounds. you made the claim he was not told, it is your responsibility to prove your claim.

prove it

Did you really report someone on a football message board?