News: ST: Cowboys, Romo insist best years are ahead

[DandyDon52]

I saw a article today that said manziel wants to come to Dallas, he was awol sunday, did not show up for concussion protocol
meeting.
So if he says he wants to come to dallas can jerry resist that? and if he gets johnny, do you think he will still draft one too??
I dont.

The jones boys are rubbing their hands together right now all excited about the draft, and no telling what they will do.
Better to just wait and see.

also on JM, they said he cant be traded right now. I think maybe after SB they can do a trade .

 

[Coy]

I want to believe that, and come June 2016 I might again. But as of right now, I honestly don't see Tony playing more than 10 games ever again.

That's the "we are the worst team in the nfl one day after the 4-12 season ended" in you talking, been there buddy, this season was awful.
But we'll bounce back, obviously it all depends on Romo's health, because as we know, this HC is incapable of winning without him.

 

[Hoofbite]

Let the smoke screens begin for the draft!

Yeah, gotta throw of the 3 teams ahead of them who are unaware of Romo's age and didn't bother paying attention to any of the games that Romo didn't play in.

 

[DandyDon52]

about Romo, he is a little smarter now, but his best years are behind him, but he wont quit anytime soon.
He could easily play another 2-3 years, but he may not play whole seasons.

 

[Rogerthat12]

I probably will disappear for a few days after the 4th pick in this draft.

You will be gone after the first pick....CB!

 

[mrmojo]

My gut says they will trade down....especially if they get a backup qb before draft

 

[chicago JK]

You never know. Football you are always one play away from never playing again. And when you age, it is more difficult to avoid injuries and recovery takes longer for most players. I think Romo has a few more good years left if he can stay on the field.

Dallas needs to find a way not to be one of the three worst teams in the league if Romo is not in the lineup. I would have thought after years of "rebuilding" that wouldn't be the case now.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

the dimwit owner is going to force the qb to play out this contract. that's another 4 years even though he keeps saying "another 5 years" in every interview.

so are you comfortable having the 1st rd pick QB sit for his entire rookie deal (4 years)?

Romo will never be injury free during that time so I think the backup will play a lot. We don't even know what kind of a QB Tony will be in 4 years. When a QB loses his stuff, it can be drastic.

 

[Kevinicus]

Since the draft is a crap shoot, then I have no clue as to who's the 2nd best player vs the 10th best player. But if the 10 best player is a QB, and that QB could be around and help you go places in the future, I'll take him.

What if the 10th best player you want to draft is a Weeden clone? Still drafting him just because he is the highest QB on the board?

 

[Risen Star]

What if the 10th best player you want to draft is a Weeden clone? Still drafting him just because he is the highest QB on the board?

And why would the 10th best player on our board be graded to be another Brandon Weeden?

Can we have an adult conversation about this?

 

[superonyx]

The harsh reality that if Romo goes down again next season we will be drafting in a similar position again next year. Having Goff or Lynch look like Weeden, or Cassell under JG won't do much of anything for us.

As long as JG is coaching this team we will not win much unless Romo is playing to bail him out.

So relax everyone....we may have many more chances to draft a QB in the top 5 over the next couple years.

Jerry isn't interested in training a new puppet at his age.

 

[gimmesix]

It would be incredibly short sighted of the Cowboys to pass on a top QB given the rarity of such a high pick, but not if they dont like the QBs available up there. After reading some of the draft reviews on these guys I think the only reason they're rated so high is because of the position they play.

That's my only issue. If the pick is worth it, I think without a doubt the Cowboys should take the QB because of the draft position they are in. However, I'd hate for Dallas to pass on a clear top-five talent to take a QB who is really just a borderline first-round talent.

Now, I don't know if that's the case. If the Cowboys rate someone like Lynch the No. 5 player and Bosa as No. 1, I don't think there would be enough of a difference to pass on the QB to take the top player.

 

[seamus18]

Let me start by saying I am a huge Romo fan. With that out of the way, I believe that it is in the Cowboys best interest to take one of the 2 QB's at #4 if they are available. Of course, not to start right away. I still believe that a healthy Romo is far and away this teams best option, but that's no longer a given. Love to see Goff or Lynch backing up Romo for a few years and learning from him and be there if necessary. Also, by taking the QB at #4, you get that extra option year that he wouldn't become a free agent, so time wouldn't be as much of a factor as a later round pick. Build for the future like Green Bay did with Favre & Rodgers. Sounds good to be. That extra year is huge.

One thing that I believe is crucial is bringing in a top O-Line coach. This line is too important, just by the number of 1st rounders invested in it, to not invest in a top coach. Too much talent to waste being an average line like they were this year.

 

[Risen Star]

The harsh reality that if Romo goes down again next season we will be drafting in a similar position again next year. Having Goff or Lynch look like Weeden, or Cassell under JG won't do much of anything for us.

As long as JG is coaching this team we will not win much unless Romo is playing to bail him out.

So relax everyone....we may have many more chances to draft a QB in the top 5 over the next couple years.

Jerry isn't interested in training a new puppet at his age.

Our fan base is infested with these types. Always the assembly line of coaches. It's all on them.

 

[gimmesix]

QB is the most important position on your team. Roethlisberger was picked 11th pick in the draft. I'm sure Oakland wish they could take their pick back at the 2nd pick and reached for Roethlisberger who won 2 super bowls.

If we can get Roethlisberger with that pick, I'm on board. However, that draft had two QBs go in the top five who both have had pretty good careers. If those two had not been in that draft, Roethlisberger probably is a top-five pick.

Look at other drafts and you see plenty of misses where teams reached for a QB because the talent wasn't really there, such as Vince Young going No. 3 in 2006, followed by Matt Leinart at No. 10 and Jay Cutler at 11.

Is this year more similar to 2004 or 2006?

 

[DandyDon52]

the dimwit owner is going to force the qb to play out this contract. that's another 4 years even though he keeps saying "another 5 years" in every interview.

so are you comfortable having the 1st rd pick QB sit for his entire rookie deal (4 years)?

That is a key issue, and one reason why they wont get a high 1st round qb.

If they did and romo goes down, then they would be glad they got the 1st round guy. If Romo plays all 16 for the next 4 years, then
really they still have the guy who no one would want by then.

I think they should do it if they can get a good one, as Romo could easily miss many games in next 4 years.

But I am thinking the jones boys get JM etc as a bkup and keep kellen and use the draft picks for other players.

 

[Kevinicus]

And why would the 10th best player on our board be graded to be another Brandon Weeden?

Can we have an adult conversation about this?

Weeden was drafted in the early 20's. It's common enough that players who are within a team's top 10 on their board last that long. Especially if the draft is fairly even with guys rated similarly.

The point is you don't draft a qb just to draft a qb. It's the same stupid logic Gailey used that got us Ellis instead of Moss. Let's take Ellis because better DEs are usually top 10 picks. Doesn't matter that Ellis might be a 15-20 (or lower) talent. Picking him in the top 10 will magically make him better.

 

[DandyDon52]

If we can get Roethlisberger with that pick, I'm on board. However, that draft had two QBs go in the top five who both have had pretty good careers. If those two had not been in that draft, Roethlisberger probably is a top-five pick.

Look at other drafts and you see plenty of misses where teams reached for a QB because the talent wasn't really there, such as Vince Young going No. 3 in 2006, followed by Matt Leinart at No. 10 and Jay Cutler at 11.

Is this year more similar to 2004 or 2006?

Well you never know, that is where evaluation process decides that for the Cowboys or any other team.

Some of they high draft picks, are just poor eval by that team or owner, and JM is a example, many saw that he was not worth a 1st round pick,
but cleveland picked him.
Then you have other guys go in late rounds who wind up big stars, it is all in the evaluation.

 

[Risen Star]

Weeden was drafted in the early 20's. It's common enough that players who are within a team's top 10 on their board last that long. Especially if the draft is fairly even with guys rated similarly.

The point is you don't draft a qb just to draft a qb. It's the same stupid logic Gailey used that got us Ellis instead of Moss. Let's take Ellis because better DEs are usually top 10 picks. Doesn't matter that Ellis might be a 15-20 (or lower) talent. Picking him in the top 10 will magically make him better.

I honestly fail to follow your logic. Don't understand what you're trying to say.

I can promise you whoever the 10th rated player is on the Cowboys board (really a cluster of players) they will project that guy to be a much better pro than what Brandon Weeden turned out to be.

 

[Kevinicus]

I honestly fail to follow your logic. Don't understand what you're trying to say.

I can promise you whoever the 10th rated player is on the Cowboys board (really a cluster of players) they will project that guy to be a much better pro than what Brandon Weeden turned out to be.

Brandon Weeden was projected that way as well.

The 10th best player this year, if they are a qb, might be the 30th ranked player this year, or the next. So we could use the 4th on someone this year on a guy we could have got the equivelent of at the end of the first round next year.

Don't waste a top 4 pick on a guy that isn't a top 4 value (generally speaking), just because they are at the top of that position THIS year. The top qbs are not equal every year.