News: ST: Cowboys, Romo insist best years are ahead

[Risen Star]

Brandon Weeden was projected that way as well.

The 10th best player this year, if they are a qb, might be the 30th ranked player this year, or the next. So we could use the 4th on someone this year on a guy we could have got the equivelent of at the end of the first round next year.

Don't waste a top 4 pick on a guy that isn't a top 4 value (generally speaking), just because they are at the top of that position THIS year. The top qbs are not equal every year.

Yeah, Weeden was projected that way. Not top 10 but 1st round. So what? Pick a position. I'll give you names of guys projected that way that flamed out. Why is this only applicable with QBs?

My stance has always been if our scouting department determines one or both of these guys is a franchise caliber prospect my entire focus will be on obtaining that player. At any cost. If they believe neither are worthy of that pick then I don't select them. If they are proven wrong, I fire everyone involved with that projection.

 

[Alexander]

My stance has always been if our scouting department determines one or both of these guys is a franchise caliber prospect my entire focus will be on obtaining that player.

So if Will McClay decides Vernon Hargreaves is a franchise caliber prospect, you good?

 

[Clove]

If we can get Roethlisberger with that pick, I'm on board. However, that draft had two QBs go in the top five who both have had pretty good careers. If those two had not been in that draft, Roethlisberger probably is a top-five pick.

Look at other drafts and you see plenty of misses where teams reached for a QB because the talent wasn't really there, such as Vince Young going No. 3 in 2006, followed by Matt Leinart at No. 10 and Jay Cutler at 11.

Is this year more similar to 2004 or 2006?

Plenty of misses from other positions, and most of those aren't the difference maker with regards to a Super Bowl. A QB can be. And just like you said, no one knew. But without trying, we definitely know. We know we've drafted a ton of positional players over the past two decades (except top round QB) and none of that has helped us. I don't see why we can't draft one of those QBs right now. You don't know, I don't know, no one knows.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

There's no evidence to argue against it unless you factor in injuries. But when he has been on that field and healthy? He had his best year of his career.

 

[Frozen700]

And this is why we are doomed.

We keep listening to Romo, and we keep depending on him.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I think we all want that. I just believe if we choose someone like Bosa because he's the best player available that it's a good investment for now and the future ... as long as Romo is able to stay relatively healthy.

The difficult thing is with Romo, we hope to not be drafting this high again, so it would be tough not to take advantage of that and get that QB of the future. But I do believe that when the time comes we can get to the top of the draft and get what we need at the position ... but again, that future might come faster than I hope.

I'm certainly not going to be sad if Dallas passes on better-rated player to secure the QB of the future, but I also will support drafting the best player at No. 4 as long as we make the moves we need this offseason to put ourselves in position to win now with Romo.

This game is one on the line. BOTH SIDES. The Cowboys understood that by investing so much in the offensive line and now with defense they have a shot to do the same. Your team will be set for YEARS if you can get a impact player like Bosa on that defensive line. That's equivalent to adding a Zach Martin to your offensive line. You can get a QB of the future next season or the season after. Or even IN THIS DRAFT. Derek Carr and Teddy Bridgewater look fine as future quarterbacks and they were late round picks or early 2nd round picks. Their teams feel far more comfortable with them as their quarterbacks then the Falcons and Lions do with their top 3 selections at quarterback.

 

[rockj7]

Cowboys, Romo insist best years are ahead


thanks for that laugh!!

I appreciate my QB more now after this season. But is Tony drinking out of Johnny Footballs Gatorade bottle. YOUR ABOUT TO BE 36 Tony then comes 37 so you see where the numbers are going up that's not good

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

And this is why we are doomed.

We keep listening to Romo, and we keep depending on him.

Its not entirely stupid. I think its one thing if you are talking about Andrew Luck. But we're talking about a draft full of guys who aren't ready to play now. So do you scrap the NOW for the future or do you attempt to appease the now and the future? I go with the latter.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I appreciate my QB more now after this season. But is Tony drinking out of Johnny Footballs Gatorade bottle. YOUR ABOUT TO BE 36 Tony then comes 37 so you see where the numbers are going up that's not good

I'm sure its part over confidence on Romo's part but we've doubted him before. ESPECIALLY me. I said I wouldn't after what he did last season. Its the injury risk that's scary. But i'm not concerned with his play on the field. Not yet anyway.

 

[Risen Star]

So if Will McClay decides Vernon Hargreaves is a franchise caliber prospect, you good?

There is no such thing as a franchise CB.

If he says that, I probably lift the headphones off my melvin son Stephen and tell him he's the one who took his meatball.

 

[Risen Star]

Trying to stay hopeful but I really think we'll look back at this draft with serious remorse over what might have been.

 

[Alexander]

There is no such thing as a franchise CB.

If he says that, I probably lift the headphones off my melvin son Stephen and tell him he's the one who took his meatball.

Not corner?

 

[rockj7]

I'm sure its part over confidence on Romo's part but we've doubted him before. ESPECIALLY me. I said I wouldn't after what he did last season. Its the injury risk that's scary. But i'm not concerned with his play on the field. Not yet anyway.

Bro I dont doubt his ability yet but Ive been looking at Kobe this year father time never loses

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Bro I dont doubt his ability yet but Ive been looking at Kobe this year father time never loses

I've seen father time battle Brett Favre, Kurt Warner, Peyton and Tom Brady at Romo's age and he lost. Now you can argue that those are better quarterbacks but if Romo has the skill then he very well may be good enough to win games next year.

It can all change in a offseason. I understand that. I look at it as if he can't play then we will once again be choosing in the top 5 and probably will have a shot at a even better prospect.

 

[Doomsday101]

I have no doubt that Romo will be ready when the season rolls around and I think he will be a highly productive QB next year but I also have no doubt that time catches up to everyone and the drop off can happen fast. I think it is in the best interest to look at top prospect QB's to work and learn behind Romo now

 

[Stash]

I was angry when I first read the thread title, but based on the comments in the article, I feel it's misleading. I like Charean's work but disagree with her here.

 

[dallasdave]

Yeah, Weeden was projected that way. Not top 10 but 1st round. So what? Pick a position. I'll give you names of guys projected that way that flamed out. Why is this only applicable with QBs?

My stance has always been if our scouting department determines one or both of these guys is a franchise caliber prospect my entire focus will be on obtaining that player. At any cost. If they believe neither are worthy of that pick then I don't select them. If they are proven wrong, I fire everyone involved with that projection.

 

[dallasdave]

There is no such thing as a franchise CB.

If he says that, I probably lift the headphones off my melvin son Stephen and tell him he's the one who took his meatball.

 

[gimmesix]

Well you never know, that is where evaluation process decides that for the Cowboys or any other team.

Some of they high draft picks, are just poor eval by that team or owner, and JM is a example, many saw that he was not worth a 1st round pick,
but cleveland picked him.
Then you have other guys go in late rounds who wind up big stars, it is all in the evaluation.

I remember thinking that Aaron Rodgers was the top QB in his draft and predicting that he would go No. 1 ahead of Alex Smith. Evaluation is hit and miss and we've got to expect that, but we also have to trust the scouting department to do its job, even if that ends up meaning that all of the QB prospects end up being reaches with the early pick and Dallas doesn't take one.

I think the foolhardy thing for Dallas to do is not figure out how to get one of the top QB prospects. If they've got a guy graded in the 20s, then trade up to get him. (I'm not as big of a fan of trading down with the No. 4 pick because I believe you've got a chance at a true stud at that spot.)

 

[gimmesix]

This game is one on the line. BOTH SIDES. The Cowboys understood that by investing so much in the offensive line and now with defense they have a shot to do the same. Your team will be set for YEARS if you can get a impact player like Bosa on that defensive line. That's equivalent to adding a Zach Martin to your offensive line. You can get a QB of the future next season or the season after. Or even IN THIS DRAFT. Derek Carr and Teddy Bridgewater look fine as future quarterbacks and they were late round picks or early 2nd round picks. Their teams feel far more comfortable with them as their quarterbacks then the Falcons and Lions do with their top 3 selections at quarterback.

I'm with you. I want a DL stud to keep building that line into what it needs to be. (Now, I don't know if a DL stud like Bosa will be there when we pick.) I also believe that we will have a decent shot at a future QB either at the top of the second or by trading back into the first.