News: ST: Dallas Cowboys plan to use final two games to evaluate young talent

[JoeKing]

disagree, this is about advancing the development of the team
to do other wise would not be skillful use of high value time

Speaking of skillful use of valuable time, watch this...

 

[TonyS]

You would like to think all players try to win but that's just not true... a young player like Patmon, comes to mind. Being an eternal optimist as you are being now, is laudable. Thank you. But this "injection of young players" as you say it is snake oil that will not get better results. How do I know this? Because the younger players aren't better on the practice field.

With all of the CBA rules limiting actual hitting and such in practice, there's nothing antifootball about giving some of your promising younger players a chance to see pro game experience. There is no practice that can truly simulate this. It is invaluable and they will have all the plays on the All 22 to evaluate. I think it can only help the team prepare for next year.

 

[JoeKing]

With all of the CBA rules limiting actual hitting and such in practice, there's nothing antifootball about giving some of your promising younger players a chance to see pro game experience. There is no practice that can truly simulate this. It is invaluable and they will have all the plays on the All 22 to evaluate. I think it can only help the team prepare for next year.

I don't care about 2016. Game playing time is invaluable and the young ones that haven't been seeing much of it, haven't earned. They aren't entitled to it so stop with the "why not give them the chance". We are out to win two games not experiment.

 

[Givincer]

The best product is what the practice field reveals it to be. The young players aren't entitled to play anymore than anyone else, just because they are "young".

The word "entitled" doesn't apply here. If they're told to play, they play. If the coaches want to evaluate young players in a game that has no playoff implications, that is their prerogative.

 

[kazzd58]

If you caught Garrett's press conference yesterday, it certainly sounded like to me that this is no time for experimenting for the Cowboys. They are out to win two games at the end of the season. We are watching the same games so don't act like you see something the rest of us don't. It's obvious it was time for Cassel to ride the pine. I'm fine with Moore getting the nod to start, that's in keeping with what I've been saying with going with what they see best at practice. Moore was already getting half the snaps at practice last week so you had to know they were seeing something then in him to lend to the course of action in the game they took by benching Cassel.

My thing is this i understand him and his job of what he has to do to win but why does it even have to get to this point to give the younger guys opportunity not all but some. for example the guy ( Moore) won 50 games in college beating some quality fbs teams along the way so to me that got to mean something in the game of football the best players in history don't all have the perfect measurablse but they had the other quality's that makes them good the individual for example like feel, vison, interpretations, we can see the same photo but interpret it totally different, make long example short its just your unique ability that you have that have help you even get to this point, so at his size and athletic ability but he seems to move fine in the pocket and find his lane now im not saying Moore is the 2nd coming but I do believe we would have won more games with Moore and i do truly believe that after watching him Saturday even more . but somebody at some point comes along and defeat the odds but they have to get the opportunity to do so Russell Wilson comes to mind for example, what if the coaches there in Seattle thought like they do here? he was 3rd 4th rd pick i think rookie never played a down but helps lead them to a super bowl and no i don't think they would hv won it without him and Pete Carroll went with his gut and instincts and chose Russell over the proven veteran Flynn that they just gave 10 mill too , but he got the opportunity to prove other wise is my point in a game ...idk about you but from what ive seen so far with Moore i truly believe we would be in the lead in our division if he had started earlier when the offensive coordinator is telling u to give the guy a shot that should hv some cred too with scotts resume as a head coach and coordinator and no im not talking hindsight, I never believed in Cassell from the jump and from my understanding our offensive coordinator have been pushing for Moore weeks ago.

 

[dallasdave]

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This is a good idea, see what you have and what you want to keep !!!

 

[JoeKing]

The word "entitled" doesn't apply here. If they're told to play, they play. If the coaches want to evaluate young players in a game that has no playoff implications, that is their prerogative.

The propsal to play young players because thy haven't had a chance yet is suggesting they are entitled to get playing time. Garrett made it clear at yesterday's press conference that they are not going to be using the remaining games as evaluation time for the younger players. So your suggestion otherwise is a moot idea. They are trying to win two games.

 

[JoeKing]

My thing is this i understand him and his job of what he has to do to win but why does it even have to get to this point to give the younger guys opportunity not all but some. for example the guy ( Moore) won 50 games in college beating some quality fbs teams along the way so to me that got to mean something in the game of football the best players in history don't all have the perfect measurablse but they had the other quality's that makes them good the individual for example like feel, vison, interpretations, we can see the same photo but interpret it totally different, make long example short its just your unique ability that you have that have help you even get to this point, so at his size and athletic ability but he seems to move fine in the pocket and find his lane now im not saying Moore is the 2nd coming but I do believe we would have won more games with Moore and i do truly believe that after watching him Saturday even more . but somebody at some point comes along and defeat the odds but they have to get the opportunity to do so Russell Wilson comes to mind for example, what if the coaches there in Seattle thought like they do here? he was 3rd 4th rd pick i think rookie never played a down but helps lead them to a super bowl and no i don't think they would hv won it without him and Pete Carroll went with his gut and instincts and chose Russell over the proven veteran Flynn that they just gave 10 mill too , but he got the opportunity to prove other wise is my point in a game ...idk about you but from what ive seen so far with Moore i truly believe we would be in the lead in our division if he had started earlier when the offensive coordinator is telling u to give the guy a shot that should hv some cred too with scotts resume as a head coach and coordinator and no im not talking hindsight, I never believed in Cassell from the jump and from my understanding our offensive coordinator have been pushing for Moore weeks ago.

If you like three INTs from the QB every game then yeah, I guess Moore is your guy. I for one, insist on my QB taking better care of the ball. The college game doesn't alway translate to the pro game for players. That's why Tebow never had a great pro career and it's why Moore isn't a good pro either.

 

[Givincer]

The propsal to play young players because thy haven't had a chance yet is suggesting they are entitled to get playing time. Garrett made it clear at yesterday's press conference that they are not going to be using the remaining games as evaluation time for the younger players. So your suggestion otherwise is a moot idea. They are trying to win two games.

No, it doesn't suggest they are entitled to playing time. What it would suggest is coaches want to evaluate players in a different atmosphere than simply practice.

 

[JoeKing]

No, it doesn't suggest they are entitled to playing time. What it would suggest is coaches want to evaluate players in a different atmosphere than simply practice.

You go ahead and can keep thinking that but Garrett said otherwise at one of his press conferences this week.

 

[dallasdave]

Dallas Cowboys plan to use final two games to evaluate young talent========== Please do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[waving monkey]

Speaking of skillful use of valuable time, watch this...

gosh that advanced the discussion but thats what this board is becoming

 

[Givincer]

You go ahead and can keep thinking that but Garrett said otherwise at one of his press conferences this week.

Not sure what you are arguing. I'm saying if they elect to put in younger players, it has nothing to do with anyone being "entitled" to playing time.

 

[JoeKing]

Not sure what you are arguing. I'm saying if they elect to put in younger players, it has nothing to do with anyone being "entitled" to playing time.

So you are just wishing upon a star and not saying they are going to empliment this idea?

 

[BAT]

I wish the Coaching staff was being evaluated also.

And it's not like Cowboys were not already playing the best of the young talent on the roster already anyway. Swaim, Green, Mitchell haven't earned the right to play anyway.

Would rather the Cowboys jettison the bottom of the roster and start raiding other team's PS right now. McCray, Brown, Street, Clutts and Rod Smith can be improved on right now.

And if they cant, no harm done.

 

[Givincer]

So you are just wishing upon a star and not saying they are going to empliment this idea?

No.

I'll repeat once again. My point is pretty simple. If they decide to give younger players playtime, it's not due to anyone being "entitled" to anything.

 

[JoeKing]

No.

I'll repeat once again. My point is pretty simple. If they decide to give younger players playtime, it's not due to anyone being "entitled" to anything.

So why would they decided to bench the veterans to play the younger players? Are you seriously suggesting they are better than the vets? It wouldn't be to evaluate talent because Garrett as already stated they won't do that with game time.

 

[kevinhickey]

Thank god. I think that's the best idea they've had all year.

Absolutely no reason to have all of our proven veterans out there right now.

I'd like to see Green at RT, Mitchell at CB, Heath at S, Swaim at TE, Irving at the 1T, Butler and Street at WR, etc.

These last two games should look like preseason games.

Edit: Escobar is done for the year.

I would like to see this Green kid play at RT.

 

[Fletch]

Yay. 2 more losses.

Hey! One can hope. I'm thinking draft anyway.

I almost feel dirty for even saying that, but why waste an opportunity to draft within the top ten? Doesn't happen often. Time to add to basically three first rounders from last year, Byron Jones, Gregory, and Collins.

 

[dallasdave]

Hey! One can hope. I'm thinking draft anyway.

I almost feel dirty for even saying that, but why waste an opportunity to draft within the top ten? Doesn't happen often. Time to add to basically three first rounders from last year, Byron Jones, Gregory, and Collins.

Draft is the main thing now !!!