Stanford jumps Boise State in the BCS

[Hoofbite]

Stanford is a better football team than Boise State. It's just that simple.

Boise State didn't even win their own conference last year. Nevada.

They lost on what was basically a missed extra point to a team ranked in the top 20 and it wouldn't have mattered anyway.

The BCS will jump Boise with whoever they have to. If it came to it, they'd throw a 2-loss team up there just to maintain their sense of security.

No small school will ever get a shot under the BCS system. It's rigged that way. A couple of years back they tucked their tail and pitted Boise against TCU while putting the two teams ranked between Boise and TCU against each other. If Florida / Cincinatti would have beaten TCU / Boise, they would have made their case.

But, they took the easy route and matched up the two smaller schools.

The BCS is a sham. Regardless of what happens this year, the system has already been proven to be a complete sham.

Anyone who thinks it's a legitimate system is just lying to themselves.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think only a playoff system will put these types of debates to rest.

I have nothing against Boise and would love to see them make it to the NC game and under the current system that will be difficult because they just do not play enough of the top teams.

People say that is unfair maybe so but how is it fair to the teams like LSU or Bama who have to go through an extremely tough schedule and then not get rewarded for the fact they survived the teams they have to face? That is why at the present strength of schedule has to play a part if not then your cheating those team

 

[YosemiteSam]

I think only a playoff system will put these types of debates to rest.

I have nothing against Boise and would love to see them make it to the NC game and under the current system that will be difficult because they just do not play enough of the top teams.

People say that is unfair maybe so but how is it fair to the teams like LSU or Bama who have to go through an extremely tough schedule and then not get rewarded for the fact they survived the teams they have to face? That is why at the present strength of schedule has to play a part if not then your cheating those team

You're argument would have merit of those teams would accept the offer to play Boise State. The problem is, they refuse. Instead teams like Alabama goes on to schedule North Texas and Boise State is stuck playing non-contenders.

 

[Doomsday101]

You're argument would have merit of those teams would accept the offer to play Boise State. The problem is they refuse.

Which ones? All of them? I like Boise but come on this weekend they play UNLV while Bama and LSU face off against each other do you think that this is equal and UNLV is the same as playing Bama or LSU? That is why this win for either Bama or LSU will carry weight with it.

Strength of schedule makes a big difference and can't be discounted in the rankings

 

[Doomsday101]

You're argument would have merit of those teams would accept the offer to play Boise State. The problem is, they refuse. Instead teams like Alabama goes on to schedule North Texas and Boise State is stuck playing non-contenders.

Yes because they will have 5 to 6 top 25 ranked teams they will face. How many will Boise face. I wish there was a better way the only thing I can see that will help is a playoff system but to not give credit to the teams in major conferances who year in and year out are playing brutal schedule and then not get rewarded for it would not be fair either

 

[YosemiteSam]

The BCS is a sham.

This.

It's about money and the big schools generate more money so screw the little guys. Whether they are better or not.

The BCS got a big fat black eye last year when TCU won the Rose Bowl. It wasn't the first time either. Remember when Utah laid the smack down (31-17) on Alabama in the 2009 Sugar Bowl?

 

[YosemiteSam]

Yes because they will have 5 to 6 top 25 ranked teams they will face. How many will Boise face.

Boise is ranked, why won't LSU or Alabama play them and just drop one of the 26th ranked teams they play?

Boise State doesn't have a chance because the LSUs and Alabamas and OUs refuse to play them.

LSU and Alabama can play anyone they want. Including Boise State. They won't do it. They fear what happen to Alabama against Utah and Wisconsin against TCU.

 

[Cythim]

National Championships say otherwise. OU has 26 total NCAA championships. OSU has 47.

http://sportsdelve.wordpress.com/20...nships-most-national-championships-by-school/

That combined with the fact that an OSU sports team has not lost a single game this year, I'd say that they're superior athletically.

OSU has won 34 NCs in wrestling, this proves that they are great in one sport, not across all athletics. I've shown you the rankings that count total athletics, not a single sport that your university is great at.

As for not losing a single game so far this year, the year is still young and crowing about that is just stupid. Basketball starts soon and you will lose games. When baseball starts you will lose even more games. This is like a baseball team crowing about sweeping the first series of the season, there are still a lot of games left to be played.

Please come back with better logic.

 

[Cythim]

Boise is ranked, why won't LSU or Alabama play them and just drop one of the 26th ranked teams they play?

Boise State doesn't have a chance because the LSUs and Alabamas and OUs refuse to play them.

LSU and Alabama can play anyone they want. Including Boise State. They won't do it. They fear what happen to Alabama against Utah and Wisconsin against TCU.

Why should the LSUs and Alabamas and OUs add another ranked opponent, another potential loss, to their already tough schedule? Hey guys, I know you already have to play 5 teams who will be ranked this year, but we need to give Boise State a shot so we invited them down here to play the only game that will matter on their schedule this year. The big schools have nothing to gain from scheduling BSU other than placating BSU and their whiners. None of them should put their season on the line for that. Instead of scheduling Georgia then Toledo, Tulsa and Fresno St maybe they should target 4 teams from an AQ conference. You mocked Alabama for playing North Texas when that is the quality of team BSU plays most weeks.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Why should the LSUs and Alabamas and OUs add another ranked opponent, another potential loss, to their already tough schedule? Hey guys, I know you already have to play 5 teams who will be ranked this year, but we need to give Boise State a shot so we invited them down here to play the only game that will matter on their schedule this year. The big schools have nothing to gain from scheduling BSU other than placating BSU and their whiners. None of them should put their season on the line for that. Instead of scheduling Georgia then Toledo, Tulsa and Fresno St maybe they should target 4 teams from an AQ conference. You mocked Alabama for playing North Texas when that is the quality of team BSU plays most weeks.

Yeah, punish the little guy.

I mock them? You damn right I do. Boise State plays North Texas because the bigger teams won't agree to play them. Boise State plays them because they have too. (no ranked teams will) Alabama plays them by choice. The choose to take a week off and hold the smaller schools down. Prevent them from getting humiliated by a small team.

I can mock anyone who wusses out and plays a ****ty team. You can't mock someone when the only teams willing to play them are ****ty teams.

It seems to me North Texas has more balls than Alabama if you look at it that way.

IMO it is humiliating for them not having the nuts to play Boise State. If Alabama can beat Boise State, then prove it.

 

[Cythim]

Yeah, punish the little guy.

I mock them? You damn right I do. Boise State plays North Texas because the bigger teams won't agree to play them. Boise State plays them because they have too. (no ranked teams will) Alabama plays them by choice. The choose to take a week off and hold the smaller schools down. Prevent them from getting humiliated by a small team.

I can mock anyone who wusses out and plays a ****ty team. You can't mock someone when the only teams willing to play them are ****ty teams.

It seems to me North Texas has more balls than Alabama if you look at it that way.

IMO it is humiliating for them not having the nuts to play Boise State. If Alabama can beat Boise State, then prove it.

All of the AQ teams schedule weaker opponents in non-conference, but Alabama and LSU also played Penn St and Oregon while Oklahoma played Florida State. Boise State could schedule harder non-conference opponents if they truly wanted to, but they want to get away with that one tough game a year and 11 cream puffs. They need to sack up and play a real schedule instead of crying about who will not play them.

 

[YosemiteSam]

All of the AQ teams schedule weaker opponents in non-conference, but Alabama and LSU also played Penn St and Oregon while Oklahoma played Florida State. Boise State could schedule harder non-conference opponents if they truly wanted to, but they want to get away with that one tough game a year and 11 cream puffs. They need to sack up and play a real schedule instead of crying about who will not play them.

They (the big AQ schools) have to agree to play them. Boises State and TCU has made offers. The big AQ school refuse to play them.

 

[Dallas]

Yeah, punish the little guy.

I mock them? You damn right I do. Boise State plays North Texas because the bigger teams won't agree to play them. Boise State plays them because they have too. (no ranked teams will) Alabama plays them by choice. The choose to take a week off and hold the smaller schools down. Prevent them from getting humiliated by a small team.

I can mock anyone who wusses out and plays a ****ty team. You can't mock someone when the only teams willing to play them are ****ty teams.

It seems to me North Texas has more balls than Alabama if you look at it that way.

IMO it is humiliating for them not having the nuts to play Boise State. If Alabama can beat Boise State, then prove it.

You got sucked into believing what the AD from BSU said last year about nobody wanting to play them.

Well I can say that there is more to it than that.

BSU's coach even said this year he would never schedule Air Force if he had any say in it. Is that saying we will take on all comers?

Uhhh no....

 

[YosemiteSam]

BSU's coach even said this year he would never schedule Air Force if he had any say in it. Is that saying we will take on all comers?

Uhhh no....

ROFL, are you trying to compare Air Force to an actual ranked contender? I hope not.

I think you are confusing the subject here. It's about how the BCS (and the schools therein) intentionally screwing ranked non-AQ teams out of a shot at a Championship.

ie, the BCS must DIE.

Air Force has no claim. Boise State does.

 

[DFWJC]

Has nothing to do with BSU. It has everything to do with the BCS. TCU proved they were the better team last year even when the BCS tried to screw them.

btw, prepare for another loss December 3rd.

We already know the BCS *****. We could do a thread once a week on this topic. It is a gigantically flawed system, but better than when polls decided the champs without even one psuedo title game.
The BCS is as un-American as it can get.

As for Boise St., it's not like they've been beating powerhouses either. Who knows, maybe they'll get a crack at Stanford before this is over.

I haven't seen the polls this week (been traveling); was it the human polls or computers that casued the switch?

 

[Cythim]

They (the big AQ schools) have to agree to play them. Boises State and TCU has made offers. The big AQ school refuse to play them.

AQ schools are agreeing to play them, BSU has played several of them already and has more on the future schedule. Whose fault is it that BSU is only scheduling one per season? I blame whoever schedules games for BSU.

 

[YosemiteSam]

AQ schools are agreeing to play them, BSU has played several of them already and has more on the future schedule. Whose fault is it that BSU is only scheduling one per season? I blame whoever schedules games for BSU.

What? That is a bunch of BS. BSU has accepted all but one I believe and that being Nebraska. Then again, Nebraska wants three games and two of them in Lincoln.

BSU offered a 1 and done IN Lincoln, but Nebraska doesn't want it. BSU would take a 1-1, but Nebraska doesn't want it.

BSU is willing to play Nebraska, but Nebraska is trying to force them into a situation they don't want. (two trips to Nebraska with only one trip to Boise.)

BSU has an open offer to ANY BCS ranked school for a 1 and Done AT that school's home field since 2009. Nobody except Virginia Tech and Oregon State has accepted. Well, and the lopsided BS deal Nebraska put on the table

 

[Doomsday101]

Boise is ranked, why won't LSU or Alabama play them and just drop one of the 26th ranked teams they play?

Boise State doesn't have a chance because the LSUs and Alabamas and OUs refuse to play them.

LSU and Alabama can play anyone they want. Including Boise State. They won't do it. They fear what happen to Alabama against Utah and Wisconsin against TCU.

Boise playing 1 or 2 ranked teams is still not much in comparison again these other teams are playing 5 to 6 ranked teams while Boise plays 1 maybe 2? I feel for them but to make the wins equal then only cheat the teams who are playing very hard schedule year in and year out. If Bama adds Boise now they end up playing 6 to 7 ranked teams while Boise still only has to play 1 or 2 how is that fair?

Unless Boise moves into a top conference or a playoff system in installed this is what they will contend with

 

[YosemiteSam]

Boise playing 1 or 2 ranked teams is still not much in comparison again these other teams are playing 5 to 6 ranked teams while Boise plays 1 maybe 2? I feel for them but to make the wins equal then only cheat the teams who are playing very hard schedule year in and year out. If Bama adds Boise now they end up playing 6 to 7 ranked teams while Boise still only has to play 1 or 2 how is that fair?

Unless Boise moves into a top conference or a playoff system in installed this is what they will contend with

I'm not sure we are on the same subject. I'm pointing at one thing and you keep answering with something that is off topic.

I say Boise wants to play top ranked team, you say Boise is only playing 1 or 2 ranked teams. I say top ranked teams won't play Boise, you say top ranked teams play 5-6 ranked teams and Boise only plays 1-2.

Not the same subject matter.

 

[Cythim]

What? That is a bunch of BS. BSU has accepted all but one I believe and that being Nebraska. Then again, Nebraska wants three games and two of them in Lincoln.

BSU offered a 1 and done IN Lincoln, but Nebraska doesn't want it. BSU would take a 1-1, but Nebraska doesn't want it.

BSU is willing to play Nebraska, but Nebraska is trying to force them into a situation they don't want. (two trips to Nebraska with only one trip to Boise.)

BSU has an open offer to ANY BCS ranked school for a 1 and Done AT that school's home field since 2009. Nobody except Virginia Tech and Oregon State has accepted. Well, and the lopsided BS deal Nebraska put on the table

Odd, they excepted a 2-1 deal with Michigan State. Maybe BSU has realized they aren't as big as they want to be. Georgia accepted the one and done while Oregon played a 1-1 deal and Washington and WSU have future 1-1 deals with the Broncos. Perhaps you do not realize most of these games are scheduled far in advance. Once BSU schedules these games in multiple each year they will have something to talk about. If they want to play teams like Nebraska they will accept the 2-1 deal that teams of their ilk receive from the top rated programs.