Start, Bench, Cut – Aikman, Romo, Dak

[NotForLong]

I don't think Danny was as good. He was on some teams, especially early on after becoming a starter, that I believe were good enough to win a Super Bowl, but he was one of the primary reasons they failed. He had 16 interceptions in 18 playoff games vs. 15 TDs. By the time we figured out that White wasn't the answer, we no longer had the teams that were capable of winning with better QB play.

Sounds like History repeating

 

[NotForLong]

first off which TEAMs are we running out with them?

already in debate with this..

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/all-time-cowboys-qb-stats.509944/page-5#post-12705627

why another?

that ones fresh.

give dak and or Romo those 70s or 90s teams we can talk then,.dont think either would elevate what was given to Dak or Romo talent or coaching wise, VS those LOADED HOF teams with far superior coaching in era you could stack talent 3 deep..ie Cap, FT, TT, FA players moving all the time.. Troy had a loaded team most of his career and still put-up average RS stats and not talking just Yards because they ran a lot, a lot of INTS, yes i said int 141 INTS vs 165 tds is sad for HOF qb that our fan base seems to think was elite..

ES22 was the heart and soul of that offense with the OL, Moose, and MI, Novacek.. these days those numbers are Bus driver number ie many seasons 20tds 12int type output. give DAk or romo that run game and OL with Johnson or Landry as coach.. sorry Aikman was a great QB but IMHO overrated if you are going to underrate dak and Romo given they didnt no have the teams that Staubach and Troy did. show me one game 22 didn't show up and produce in the playoffs or SB..i can show you 3 straight playoff losses where our OL.run game was non-existent..

TEAM game they had great team's vs daks average teams.

Bring back the 90s, team in 93 at their peak ill take Romo. more mobile ,still read defenses well, and could hit players in stride with 22 , moose, that ol back there with Norv calling plays..yes Romo

Out if curiosity . . . How old are you? Did you actually witness 90s football or did you hear about it on Sportscenter.

Romo may have struggled in that era and Dak would be a 3rd string TE if He was able to make it onto an NFL Roster

The Ability to throw the ball away whole outside of the Pocket is a modern innovation that people fail to factor in when comparing decades and that us not even counting in all the other innovations that allow a WR to run free down the field or over the middle

Playing in the 90s required a certain toughness most modern QBs do not possess . . . Many of these "Super Star" QBs would be folded up and out of the league within 3 years

 

[NotForLong]

Brady whooped on us first week of this year....Brady didn't have a terrible year. If he wanted to he could play again and still be a top 10 QB. Let's not exaggerate his demise.

As soon as Dak gets hurt . . . Fingers crossed

 

[jazzcat22]

All your hollow claims with never anything to back it up. I have 4 years of proof with your zeke pollard train wreck to highlight your football knowledge.

and now your claiming we should dump dak? You have completely lost it.

Where did this come from?
You make it easy to want to dislike a player the way you defend one player and are polar opposite against another.

You are still Zeke obsessed. He is gone dude, get over it.

 

[jazzcat22]

Only way aikman starts is with the 90s team. If everything wasn’t perfect for aikman he sucked.

Put down one of the best QB's in franchise history, as well one of the best in playoff history of the NFL, in order to build up a QB that has rally done nothing but put up some stats. Including game losing INT's.

 

[jazzcat22]

jimmy johnson said dak wasn't winning crap without a stacked team.
he said to billy b you don't draft dumb players

What was the quote, something like ...hit me on the head with a hammer if I ever draft another dumb player ...

I think Jerry been hit on the head quite often ...

 

[NotForLong]

This is a no-brainer any fan with a clue wouldn’t take Romo on that 93 team or any of our 90s teams because we won 3 championships. You’re not going to better on winning a Super Bowl and besides Romo had too many turnover issues. He was a poor man’s Brett Favre, who could never beat our great 90s teams. It wasn’t until the Cowboys started to decline that Favre got the better of us. I think every fan would have taken Aikman on the 2016 team but it wasn’t Dak that caused us to go one and done, it was our defense that couldn’t defend one of the top five greatest QBs to ever play the game. Aikman could’ve played a perfect game and Rodgers still would’ve found a way to beat our defense. Our championship teams under Aikman had great defenses.

Dak spotted Green Bay 21 points far from perfect

So you are saying Dak's mistake filled Rookie Performance would be a better effort then a Troy Aikman "Perfect Performance" (Green Bay's Secondary was Swiss Cheese by the way)

Yeah O'Tay . . . Troy and Romo both win that game if . . . Given the opportunity

But it is O'Tay because . . . With all the Kool Aid Flowing . . . Who could have known "Dak The Great" was fools gold . . . At least Jerry sold Jerseys and gained some New Fans

 

[NotForLong]

Looking at the stats on pro football reference Dak is gonna smoke these guys out right. He wins a Super Bowl or Two He 's sure fire HOF.

Don't shoot the messenger. Just stating the FACTS. He's already passed Troy in td passes, at this moment he's the leader in comp % and he's leading in QB rate.

Now I Don't give a Rat's Glute if he's better that any of these great men that came before him, or if people say they are better than him. Fact is We as Dallas Cowboys fans

Have had some QB's to talk about over the course of our fandom (Some Longer than others)

Dak Go Get It !!!!!

What If Dak is the QB of three SB ? Shouldn't that be what WE ALL are rooting for ?????

Cringe

 

[NotForLong]

And There are teams that wish they had Dak Prescott under center

There are far more Cowboy Fans then teams that want this

Lamar says hi

 

[NotForLong]

People post stupid **** like this and then expect to be taken seriously.

It is ironic that the 2 posters with "Cowboy" in there name are the most vocal in trashing former "Cowboy" QBs

 

[NotForLong]

Nah....they would not have beaten the Patriots....who they lost to by 3 TDs that year
Plus, TO was hurt in the playoffs
Everyone knows that midseason all fan voting Pro Bowl was a joke. Maybe 5 of those players deserved it.
Finally, Wade Phillips was not the coach Jimmy was, clearly
Btw, that was Romos 1st full year starting, he was a better player late in his career. Troy wasnt full Troy either in his 1st full year as a starter.

2007 was a Good team though!

Based

 

[NotForLong]

Jimmy Johnson wouldn't even have Romo as his starting QB. He was a choker and his pedigree sucked.

Yet Parcels did? what Pedigree? Payton loved His Pedigree . . . 2 Super Bowl winning QBs right there

If Jimmy was a True Genius He would have went to Tampa instead of Miami

 

[NotForLong]

Yet Deek is 2-4 in playoff games and Romo is 2-2.

Did you start naming Him Deek because you miss #21

 

[NotForLong]

When the other blokes get paid 40 mil a year to fail we can start blaming them as well. Here is another towel. Clean up.

 

[NotForLong]

Start=Dak
Bench=Romo
Cut=Aikman

Ya, that looks correct......

 

[NotForLong]

Yeah I don't like that. I don't like discrediting guys because they play with good talent. Because I saw what Jameis Winston did with the Buccs receiver sand I saw what Brady did and it was night and day. Literally was the difference between going 8-8 and winning a Super Bowl. IF you can play you can play it doesn't matter what talent is around you IMO. Now I'm not going to say I expect a guy to win a SB without talent around him but I expect you to produce regardless of what talent is around you.

 

[NotForLong]

Dak's a choker as well. However, Romo got better as the years went on. Dak regressed and is making more rookie mistakes now than he did his rookie season. Dak won't see a SB win just like Romo didn't. While Aikman wasn't the greatest during the regular season (But was still one of the more accurate QB's), he turned it up a notch during the playoffs.

So

Start: Aikman
Bench: Romo
Cut: Dak

He played very well during the regular season and was at the top of the USA Today QB rating system (which was the gold standard back then)

Young or whoever the San Fran QB was would have more Yards or TD aka "Stats" but Aikman's would be more proficient

This was the argument against Cooper last year but this is How Aikman won with effecient Ball Control extended drives. Moving the chains and attacking what the defense gave you. This was beneficial to the defense which keeps them Fresh.

Most here defend Dak and His Stats as being the wise choice but I choice to differ and argue that Cooper's style of play is more beneficial to a team built to win with its defense

Aikman kept his defense fresh and working with a lead. He would move the chains and drive down the field methodically

None of this 3 and out . . .missed the open receiver . . . stupid turnover . . . Playing from behind or blowing leads and momentum

Sadly Cooper does not have the arm talent but He does have the Mind and now He has the belief in Himself knowing He can get the Job done . . . Now with Cooks on the team instead of Noah (Cooper got that man paid) who knows How many points Copper could put up if given the chance . . .

This is McCarthy's fairwell tour and I believe All Options are on the Table. . . . We shall see what next season brings

 

[NotForLong]

The Cowboys, 49ers, and Bills of 92 would beat every team post 2000 handily. There haven't been any teams as strong as those since free agency began.

I think you could add the 92 Eagles to that list

 

[phildadon86]

Ryan Leaf was drafted, what, number 2 overall while Brady was drafted in the 6th. Draft position does not equal talent.

Romo made those teams look decent. What was our record in games where Romo was out hurt?

You act like i said Aikman was a garbage scrub who shouldn't have been allowed in the league. He's a HoFer and deserves every bit of it. I just think Romo does just as well as Troy if you put him on those teams. Also, every one talks about how accurate Troy was, Romo has a higher career completion percentage....just sayin...

Yeah he also threw the ball a heck of a lot more.

Do you want to go on record and say Romo was a better leader, had as stronger arm, and was more accurate than Romo? I have a bridge to sell you if so

 

[NotForLong]

You believe that and I got some ocean front property to sell you in ARZ. I read Jimmy's books and he never said that. Walsh was trade bait and that's it.

Yeah sure . . .

Hey Jimmy We Just used the #1 Pick Over All for a Franchise QB. . . . would you like to use a 1st Rd pick on your National Championship QB . . .

Yeah because then I can trade Him. . . .