Start, Bench, Cut – Aikman, Romo, Dak

[TheMarathonContinues]

Romo never beat Brady or NE. Daks done both

Good point....

 

[blueblood70]

first off which TEAMs are we running out with them?

already in debate with this..

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/all-time-cowboys-qb-stats.509944/page-5#post-12705627

why another?

that ones fresh.

give dak and or Romo those 70s or 90s teams we can talk then,.dont think either would elevate what was given to Dak or Romo talent or coaching wise, VS those LOADED HOF teams with far superior coaching in era you could stack talent 3 deep..ie Cap, FT, TT, FA players moving all the time.. Troy had a loaded team most of his career and still put-up average RS stats and not talking just Yards because they ran a lot, a lot of INTS, yes i said int 141 INTS vs 165 tds is sad for HOF qb that our fan base seems to think was elite..

ES22 was the heart and soul of that offense with the OL, Moose, and MI, Novacek.. these days those numbers are Bus driver number ie many seasons 20tds 12int type output. give DAk or romo that run game and OL with Johnson or Landry as coach.. sorry Aikman was a great QB but IMHO overrated if you are going to underrate dak and Romo given they didnt no have the teams that Staubach and Troy did. show me one game 22 didn't show up and produce in the playoffs or SB..i can show you 3 straight playoff losses where our OL.run game was non-existent..

TEAM game they had great team's vs daks average teams.

Bring back the 90s, team in 93 at their peak ill take Romo. more mobile ,still read defenses well, and could hit players in stride with 22 , moose, that ol back there with Norv calling plays..yes Romo

 

[blueblood70]

Good point....

no they beat NE and brady when they both got older and teams fell apart. nice but impressive as beating TB in NE 5 years ago..nope.

 

[phildadon86]

Comparative draft position is another poor discussion point similar to quarterback win/loss arguments. Baker Mayfield was drafted number one overall. Tom Brady was drafted less than a half dozen picks before the seventh round. The latter was a first ballot Pro Football Hall of Famer before he made his fifth Super Bowl appearance. The former will be lucky to get into the Progessive Insurance Hall of Commercials. It is always completely about player talent and ability.

That was only one reason I brought up.

And there is a big difference between Aikman and Brady compared to Romo and Mayfield. Stop being disingenuous. Romo couldn't hold Aikman's jock physically, mentally, or in any aspect of playing football. To say Tony Romo, was more talented than a 3 time SB champion and HOFer is a joke.

 

[Ranching]

Why do you assume it's a hate thread? And you just hated on two of our QB's. Why's that?

Hater...tell pappy hello for me.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

no they beat NE and brady when they both got older and teams fell apart. nice but impressive as beating TB in NE 5 years ago..nope.

Five years ago? They were talking about Brady retiring 5 years ago what's the difference between him 5 years ago and now?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Hater...tell pappy hello for me.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That was only one reason I brought up.

And there is a big difference between Aikman and Brady compared to Romo and Mayfield. Stop being disingenuous. Romo couldn't hold Aikman's jock physically, mentally, or in any aspect of playing football. To say Tony Romo, was more talented than a 3 time SB champion and HOFer is a joke.

Its because they look at what Romo did in a more pass friendly league as opposed to what Aikman had to do with against stiffer competition.

Let's be honest here. Romo's body wouldn't have held up in the 90's with some of those defenses.

 

[DallasEast]

That was only one reason I brought up.

And there is a big difference between Aikman and Brady compared to Romo and Mayfield. Stop being disingenuous. Romo couldn't hold Aikman's jock physically, mentally, or in any aspect of playing football. To say Tony Romo, was more talented than a 3 time SB champion and HOFer is a joke.

My post demonstrated making those types of comparisons is disingenuous. A joke is always on the individual erroneously connecting talent with some version of a team accomplishment.

 

[Vegas_Cowboy]

Start - Aikman
Bench - Romo
Cut - Dak

Looks good.

 

[phildadon86]

My post demonstrated making those types of comparisons is disingenuous. A joke is always on the individual erroneously connecting talent with some version of a team accomplishment.

So you want to actually go on record and say Tony Romo. Had the same, arm strength, accuracy, pocket awareness, poise and leadership that Troy Aikman did?

 

[DallasEast]

So you want to actually go on record and say Tony Romo. Had the same, arm strength, accuracy, pocket awareness, poise and leadership that Troy Aikman did?

Nothing I have stated, literally, within and outside this thread, alludes to or has been explicitly expressed in that fashion.

 

[blueblood70]

Five years ago? They were talking about Brady retiring 5 years ago what's the difference between him 5 years ago and now?

him gronk and a better NE team with BB vs Arians retires and shell of TB team that what was a 8-9 team vs TB in a lot better situation in 18/19.

so he beat NE without Tom then finally beat tom after an 8-9 season no gronk, no Arians,no BB.= less impressive nice for fans but....

 

[shabazz]

Whew…..I though this was gonna be a “Marry one, Kill one, Pork one” question.

 

[phildadon86]

Nothing I have stated, literally, within and outside this thread, alludes to or has been explicitly expressed in that fashion.

Thats the argument you decided to insert yourself into. I spoke about Aikmans ability vs Romo's ability. Physically, and mentally. And then brought up draft status.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Start Aikman, bench Romo, cut Dak.

And I am a Dak fan saying this. Aikman and Romo were better QB's, but some people will twist this into thinking this means Dak is bad. Which he isn't. He just isn't on Aikman's Hall of Fame level or a healthy Romo's amazing abilities to make plays.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

him gronk and a better NE team with BB vs Arians retires and shell of TB team that what was a 8-9 team vs TB in a lot better situation in 18/19.

so he beat NE without Tom then finally beat tom after an 8-9 season no gronk, no Arians,no BB.= less impressive nice for fans but....

Brady whooped on us first week of this year....Brady didn't have a terrible year. If he wanted to he could play again and still be a top 10 QB. Let's not exaggerate his demise.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Start Aikman, bench Romo, cut Dak.

And I am a Dak fan saying this. Aikman and Romo were better QB's, but some people will twist this into thinking this means Dak is bad. Which he isn't. He just isn't on Aikman's Hall of Fame level or a healthy Romo's amazing abilities to make plays.

I mean to me its just on preference when it comes to Romo and Dak. There's some things Romo did better than Dak and some things Dak does better than Romo. But for me even if Tampa was bad...I've seen the Cowboys play some bad teams in the playoffs like the Lions and Romo never performed at the level that Dak did against Tampa.

 

[DallasEast]

Thats the argument you decided to insert yourself into. I spoke about Aikmans ability vs Romo's ability. Physically, and mentally. And then brought up draft status.

It is true that I inserted myself into the discussion:

https://cowboyszone.com/threads/start-bench-cut-–-aikman-romo-dak.509974/post-12706333

However, I only quoted and addressed the first paragraph of your post. The two sentences tied ability with draft position. That was the assumption I replied to directly. I did not and will not touch any of the other stuff @ShortRound's black hole thread has trapped. Not going down that gravity well. I can assure you, lol.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

I mean to me its just on preference when it comes to Romo and Dak. There's some things Romo did better than Dak and some things Dak does better than Romo. But for me even if Tampa was bad...I've seen the Cowboys play some bad teams in the playoffs like the Lions and Romo never performed at the level that Dak did against Tampa.

People want to act like the Tampa Bay game never happened and instead focus on what Dak did against the best defense in football (49ers) with no running game and poor receiver play. The playoff game against the Bucs showed the world how good Dak truly is because the Cowboys played a complete game.

I find myself arguing for Dak the same way I argued for years for Romo when people called him a choker. Because if you look closely at the games Romo lost in the playoffs there were always other things going on that had nothing to do with him.

Romo's career was ultimately wasted and I just hope Dak isn't destined for the same fate.