State of the team: They’re just not good

[Romotil45]

All the media and fanboys want you to believe that you can win with 3 really good WRs and good DEs.

This is not a 7 on 7 league and it’s not madden.

Losing LVE and Jarwin combined with no Collins for now means if you go by position group and grade them:

QB - A-
RB - A
WR - A
TE - D
OL - C
DE - A-
DT - B
LB - D
CB - B
S - D

No team has all A’s across the board but the positions Dallas is bad at, they’re REALLY bad at. There are way too many holes on this team for it to be a contender right now. No Collins kills the offense and terrible LBs means teams can take the middle of the field all day.

When they got the Rams in 3rd and long the DEs had success. But when you don’t have good LBs it’s hard to get them in 3rd and long consistently.

Hopefully the team can stay around 500 til later in the year if LVE and Collins get fully healthy. Jaylon is not good for anything except 3rd and long when they can use him as a missile into the OL like they did on the sack to free up Thomas.

What I want to know is how the H-E-double hocky sticks you rate QB as A- when we scored 3 points in the second half ?

 

[Jake]

Well.. We have a better roster than the Rams and they have beat us 2 of the 3.

Go position by position and show how the Cowboys have a better roster. I'll save you a few positions:

Defensive line, secondary, tight ends - all clearly favor the Rams. That's 3 position groups down already.

Good luck.

 

[Parcells4Life]

What I want to know is how the H-E-double hocky sticks you rate QB as A- when we scored 3 points in the second half ?

Because talent is not defined by one game.

 

[windward]

I'd say yes. McVay and Shanahan are the best offensive play callers in the league.

How did Kyle do yesterday?

 

[Romotil45]

Because talent is not defined by one game.

Dak is just an average QB. I give him a C+ we can save a lot of cap space going with Dalton with similar performance.

 

[Parcells4Life]

Dak is just an average QB. I give him a C+ we can save a lot of cap space going with Dalton with similar performance.

Ok. You must not have been around for the 7 starting QBs we had between Troy and Tony. C+ quarterback is what Drew Bledsoe was.

 

[Romotil45]

Ok. You must not have been around for the 7 starting QBs we had between Troy and Tony. C+ quarterback is what Drew Bledsoe was.

I was here and Bledsoe is worse than that a solid D student. If it wasn't for Parcell's defense it would have been worse.

 

[Parcells4Life]

I was here and Bledsoe is worse than that a solid D student. If it wasn't for Parcell's defense it would have been worse.

In 2005 with a run heavy coach he had 3,630 yards with 23 TDs and 17 INT and a 60% completion percentage. That’s basically average.

Hope you’re not a teacher. One wrong answer and you probably demote the kids down to kindergarten.

 

[NumOneQB]

LBer play was really bad last night. Is it coaching? LVE injury of course hurts. The Jarwin loss was huge as well. Still early and players can step up, but a better safety would obviously help the defensive unit. They only gave up 20pts and had the team in position to win. Overall not a bad performance, just no signs of dominance from any unit....

 

[Beaker42]

All the media and fanboys want you to believe that you can win with 3 really good WRs and good DEs.

This is not a 7 on 7 league and it’s not madden.

Losing LVE and Jarwin combined with no Collins for now means if you go by position group and grade them:

QB - A-
RB - A
WR - A
TE - D
OL - C
DE - A-
DT - B
LB - D
CB - B
S - D

No team has all A’s across the board but the positions Dallas is bad at, they’re REALLY bad at. There are way too many holes on this team for it to be a contender right now. No Collins kills the offense and terrible LBs means teams can take the middle of the field all day.

When they got the Rams in 3rd and long the DEs had success. But when you don’t have good LBs it’s hard to get them in 3rd and long consistently.

Hopefully the team can stay around 500 til later in the year if LVE and Collins get fully healthy. Jaylon is not good for anything except 3rd and long when they can use him as a missile into the OL like they did on the sack to free up Thomas.

TE group is a straight out F right now.

MM has no idea how to fix any of this. He’s worse than The Clapper.

 

[Beaker42]

As disappointed as I am with the coaching, I am not ready to call it a failure of same ole same ole. Garret created a culture on this team that he has cultivated forthe past 10 years. It will take more than one preseason and 1 game to change that culture. However, if our don't do something different to make the team aware this is a new regime and things are gonna be different, the culture wl be slow to change if changes at all. I will also acknowledge that Covid during a coaching change altered the ability to implement significant changes.

I don’t get the sense that these coaches are any more aware of anything than the previous staff was. They should change from the Cowboys to Dumpster Fire.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

No. I recall a lot of excitement after going 3-0.

Beating the Dolphins got the team to 3-0, and the blowout score added to it. Sort of a cumulation of events...

 

[CowboyRoy]

Beating the Dolphins got the team to 3-0, and the blowout score added to it. Sort of a cumulation of events...

accumulation, yes.

 

[kwcool619]

As disappointed as I am with the coaching, I am not ready to call it a failure of same ole same ole. Garret created a culture on this team that he has cultivated forthe past 10 years. It will take more than one preseason and 1 game to change that culture. However, if our don't do something different to make the team aware this is a new regime and things are gonna be different, the culture wl be slow to change if changes at all. I will also acknowledge that Covid during a coaching change altered the ability to implement significant changes.

The Garrett residue is going to linger for a while. Here is my thing: What do these players know about how to adjust during games? What do these players know about mental toughness, discipline (obviously DLawrence missed the memo. First D play of the year--offsides), consistent winning, or even playing as one unit? Garrett produced a culture of doubt, inflexibility, and rote speeches.

I am not giving up on MM. He was brought here to establish a winning, championship culture. I personally feel it will take the majority of the season to turn the corner for the 10 years of damage Garrett caused. That is why I predicted 9-7 for this season. We as fans need to realize this. It will not change in one swoop of the magic wand. It will take work from the top to the bottom of the organization.

 

[jterrell]

All the media and fanboys want you to believe that you can win with 3 really good WRs and good DEs.

This is not a 7 on 7 league and it’s not madden.

Losing LVE and Jarwin combined with no Collins for now means if you go by position group and grade them:

QB - A-
RB - A
WR - A
TE - D
OL - C
DE - A-
DT - B
LB - D
CB - B
S - D

No team has all A’s across the board but the positions Dallas is bad at, they’re REALLY bad at. There are way too many holes on this team for it to be a contender right now. No Collins kills the offense and terrible LBs means teams can take the middle of the field all day.

When they got the Rams in 3rd and long the DEs had success. But when you don’t have good LBs it’s hard to get them in 3rd and long consistently.

Hopefully the team can stay around 500 til later in the year if LVE and Collins get fully healthy. Jaylon is not good for anything except 3rd and long when they can use him as a missile into the OL like they did on the sack to free up Thomas.

Pretty darn accurate.
Keep in mind LVE was also supposed to be making the calls now for this new defense.

If I look forward to next week given expected roster:

QB : A-
RB : A
WR : A
TE: F
OL: D (You don't start UDFA at OT in week 1 of their careers without being hateful)
DE: A+
DT: B
LB: C- (I like Bernard)
CB: B- (grade here can rise with Diggs getting experience)
S: D+ (Carr makes for a very slight uptick)

Plans:
OL -- La'el coming back brings this up to a solid B. Hard to make a larger change then undrafted rookie free agent in first game to Pro Bowler.
LB -- Need to play Francis and bring Jaylon on blitzes often.
S -- Dallas hates safeties so has no real plan but Carr helps on back third.

IF you can get the OL stuff together the weapons are there to score a lot and boost the less talented D.
But you can't suck in areas on both sides of the ball.

ATL is so bad on D that it seems a great week to win via matchup luck.
But week 3 is gonna be nasty versus SEA unless this team gets its stuff together.

 

[BlueStar22]

What I find so discouraging is every year we get our hopes up that this will be "The Year". The press always pumps us up. every preseason we are the media darlings. It is without fail.

well watching this team last night tells me what I have known for several years now. The Dallas Cowboys are perpetually just another team who can't get over the hump. year after year they are chasing their tails. So many NFL teams fall into that category. Dallas is just another also ran.

The front office repeatedly makes boneheaded signings on feel good stories like Jaylon and other players who aren't worth half the money they sign them to. And then there's the quarterback. This guy plays like a backup. It's gotten to the point where if they get the ball for the final drive to win the game my whole body just gets numb and I just sit back and can see the inevitable mess play out.

I will always be a dallas fan. It's just a shame to see what's become of this organization.

I'll ask you this question, why were your hopes up?

New coach, new staff taking over a team that underachieved last year. Then you factor in that there was no offseason. I think a lot of you downplay this A LOT!. Why would you have expections now? Why were your hopes up? The media?

 

[cowboyblue22]

I will give them 2 more games, atl and sea, see how it goes in those.
The defense although not real good, did hold the rams to 20 points, and that is good.
The problem was the 2nd half, where the offense only put up 3 points. you cant win doing that unless your way ahead.

you are not going to win many games in today nfl scoring 17 points just not going to happen the offense has to be better much better or its going to be a 7 or 8 win season

 

[pitt33]

I'll ask you this question, why were your hopes up?

New coach, new staff taking over a team that underachieved last year. Then you factor in that there was no offseason. I think a lot of you downplay this A LOT!. Why would you have expections now? Why were your hopes up? The media?

I get my hopes up every year. And yes the media/prognosticators always write how good the Cowboys will be every year. I do realize the team’s limitations i.e. weak at safety, defense overall etc.

But what I saw the other night is just more of the same. Mac Engel and Tim Cowlishaw pretty much wrote the same thing the next morning.

 

[black label]

qb a- end thread\

 

[Flamma]

Things that we need to begin rebuilding-
D-Line: D-Law is garbage. Sorry. When someone who’s been out the game for 5 years outplays you, there are issues.
DT’s: Crawford looked as slow as my grandmother. Man. WE NEED SPEED ON THIS TEAM!!!!!! Didn’t even really pay attention to Trysten Hill but I guess I’ll take that as a neutral thing. At least he didn’t do anything boneheaded. He probably got blew up multiple times a game though. We got an injury prone LB in LVE who doesn’t even play that well, and then there’s Jaylon “Clear Eye View” Smith, who’s SEVERELY went downhill since 2018. Sean Lee could probably outplay this despite his age. I don’t know what we’re gonna do when Sean Lee retires .

Secondary: Woooo Boy. It’s rough. I’ll give Diggs a break. A rookie without preseason. He did alright. Chido... Brown.... we just need new corners. Safety- do I need to even explain this one?

As for the offense, honestly, at times they looked great. Despite dropping balls (what would Dallas be if they didn’t drop balls?), they did great. Wish we would’ve went deep more (if our O-line actually held up) considering Gallup, Cooper, and even Lamb did great in my eyes. Zeke looked like rookie Zeke last night. No complaints about him. Dak was good. Not as bad as everyone is making him out to be. Wasn’t 40 milly good but he did his job. Made some good throws and some iffy ones. Can’t complain. Had that Gallup throw not been called back, I likely would’ve praised him for possibly turning the game into a game winning drive. But that O-line.... has seriously deteriorated.

IMO, we need to rebuild the lines. Next year, draft a safety, possibly another DE/DT, and some O-linemen. Get a new punter. If you win at the line, you win the game. Those are the fundamentals. If your D-line is good, you can not only stop the run game, but pressure the QB into making mistakes. Good O-line equals good run game, and enough time in the pocket to make big plays.

LOL that cracked me up. Unfortunately Dallas has to keep him and his enormous cap hit through next season. All we can do is hope. We were also supposed to have Poe and McCoy in the middle, we had neither. Other than that I can argue anything.