Stats Before and after - what the Atlanta game did to Dak

[aria]

I've been trying to think of an example of a QB who has recovered from a beating like that and gone on to be as good or better than they were... coming up blank.

Maybe this will help, for some odd reason a lot of Cowboys fans think our players are the only “victims”.

To name a few, Mariota has already done it this year after being sacked ELEVEN times. Rothlesberger, Stafford, Newton, Smith, and Matt Ryan all had more sacks in a single game than Dak and they seem to be doing just fine.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_sacked_single_game.htm

 

[Doomsday101]

I guess I'm more interested in Dak's numbers after getting a true #1 WR to work with. Over the 2 games Dak has had Cooper he is 47/67 for a 69.95% completion rate, 513 yard (256.5 yards per game) for a QB rating of 101.5, 3 TD passing 1 rushing and 1 int. He has also been sacked 9 times total in the past 2 games so Dak is starting to post quality numbers even as he is facing pressure

 

[Melonfeud]

Well, call me old fashioned, but in my world the buck STOPS at the top. And Garrett deserves 98% of that butt kicking, just for doing NOTHING until late in the 3rd to try and stop the beating Dak was taking....so yea I put it all at clappers feet. 1/2 time is to make ADJUSTMENTS for what aint working... how many times you see clapper and vanilla queen do that?

I believe it was the HOUSTON game this season ,in where that fielded offensive line of ours couldn't stop a bleedin' paper cut with two tubes of super glue, yet this rapid reaction concerning THE adjustment,,,
The rectification,,,
The realign calibration,,,
Took how long in it's initiation,,,?
( yes , JJ, this beat to death & now dead dog is obviously laying upon yer' castle's threshold ,,,)

*I reckon my intent was to illustrate (however yer' decoder ring might be utilized in personal discernment)
1) the appointed puppet in the Head Coaching position serves in such an emasculated & denuded fashion as to being powerless in his( perceived to the masses) position, unable to enact his best envisioned structured coaching staff formation?
,,,and/or,,,
2)He really is one lackadaisical footballish lame brained& worthless S.O.B.,,,,

Pick just one of the two,please!

 

[aria]

I guess I'm more interested in Dak's numbers after getting a true #1 WR to work with. Over the 2 games Dak has had Cooper he is 47/67 for a 69.95% completion rate, 513 yard (256.5 yards per game) for a QB rating of 101.5, 3 TD passing 1 rushing and 1 int. He has also been sacked 9 times total in the past 2 games so Dak is starting to post quality numbers even as he is facing pressure

Personally, I think we need a much bigger sample size. While his numbers looked good on paper vs TN, he missed some opportunities and we lost.

Facing an Eagles secondary that didn’t have either starting corner or their starting safety and Dak putting up 2 TD’s in the 4th, coincidentally after an undrafted FA came in to replace Darby, doesn’t convince me he’s turned the corner or that Cooper was worth it.

I’m not saying Dak hasn’t got better or that Cooper isn’t worth it, I’d just like to see more and honestly, even if they torch Atlanta I still don’t think that tells us much being they just got beat by the Browns and have what will most likely be the worst defense in the league by Sunday night.

 

[Batman1980]

Personally, I think we need a much bigger sample size. While his numbers looked good on paper vs TN, he missed some opportunities and we lost.

Facing an Eagles secondary that didn’t have either starting corner or their starting safety and Dak putting up 2 TD’s in the 4th, coincidentally after an undrafted FA came in to replace Darby, doesn’t convince me he’s turned the corner or that Cooper was worth it.

I’m not saying Dak hasn’t got better or that Cooper isn’t worth it, I’d just like to see more and honestly, even if they torch Atlanta I still don’t think that tells us much being they just got beat by the Browns and have what will most likely be the worst defense in the league by Sunday night.

Washington's secondary is also doody and should have to back up a bit in their selling-out against Zeke. Then New Orleans. Then Philly. No good defenses the rest of the way, really.

 

[cern]

Aikman was sacked 11 times by PHL in one game as a rook and body slammed and his shoulder injured.
Romo had some rough games. Dak is a tough guy but like cern said, he's going to have to learn to protect himself through D recognition and response and it took Romo longer than 3 seasons to learn how to do that well.

also took aikman about 3 years to get good at reading defenses.

 

[Bullflop]

ball control football. the longer we have the ball, the less time falcons have the ball. a game by attrition. we need to put relentless pressure on ryan. long drives. move the chains. time of possession will be critical.

Absolutely -- that would be our most trustworthy approach, no doubt. We'll have a better offense to control the clock this time, so we should take heart in that. Here's also hoping our pass rush gives Ryan cause for concern when we're defending. That's yet another good way to control their offense.

 

[Batman1980]

also took aikman about 3 years to get good at reading defenses.

Romo as well and they were both franchise quarterbacks who had HOF coaches. Who's Dak's HOF coach? Not excusing him but it is a handicap.

 

[aikemirv]

It's been discussed many times how the 27-7 loss last November in Atlanta was disastrous for this team. Looking at stats, it was clearly most disastrous for Dak Prescott. In terms of how it mentally affected Dak and this team, it was one of the worst losses in Cowboys regular season history.

Let’s look at Dak’s stats pre 2017 Atlanta game, then after the Atlanta game all the way to now.

DAK STATS BEFORE 2017 ATL GAME
2016- 23 TDS, 4 INTs
2017- (before Atl game) 16 TDs, 4 INTs
COMBINED 2016 and 8 2017 GAMES BEFORE ATL GAME: 39 TDs and 8 INTs

DAK STATS AFTER 2017 ATL GAME
2017-(after Atl game) 6 TDs, 9 INTs
2018- (so far) 11 TDs, 5 INTs
COMBINED 2017 and 2018 STATS AFTER ATL GAME: 17 TDs, 14 INTs

Just looking at Dak’s stats it’s pretty clear that Atlanta game last year did something to his confidence and performance.

I clearly remember watching Chaz Green get destroyed play after play by the mediocre Adrian Clayborn and also watching in sheer disbelief as Garett just stood there clapping while his (at that time) 24 year old QB gets thrown around like a rag doll. And no adjustments were made until late 3rd qtr. Garrett should have been fired on the plane ride home.

Coaching matters. And as the stats make clear, some games are so poorly coached it can have lingering effects. Especially when the head coach is the worst in the league at managing in-game situations. The game Sun in Atl is a chance to exercise those demons or to add to them.

http://articles.latimes.com/1991-09-16/sports/sp-1581_1_philadelphia-eagles

Tell it to Aikman!!

 

[Doomsday101]

Personally, I think we need a much bigger sample size. While his numbers looked good on paper vs TN, he missed some opportunities and we lost.

Facing an Eagles secondary that didn’t have either starting corner or their starting safety and Dak putting up 2 TD’s in the 4th, coincidentally after an undrafted FA came in to replace Darby, doesn’t convince me he’s turned the corner or that Cooper was worth it.

I’m not saying Dak hasn’t got better or that Cooper isn’t worth it, I’d just like to see more and honestly, even if they torch Atlanta I still don’t think that tells us much being they just got beat by the Browns and have what will most likely be the worst defense in the league by Sunday night.

I agree there needs to be a bigger sampling size but I do see a difference in this offense and in Dak play. As for injuries please do not go there, Dallas gets injury I am told no excuse so why would I give a damn about Philly or anyone else's injuries besides isn't Philly coached by a guy who over came injuries? well he did not over come this time. I agree Dak will miss reads and has missed opportunity and he must continue to work and improve in this as well as getting the ball out quicker at times. He entered this season with 1 WR he had any real playing time with in Beasley, I think he is starting to get in sync with these other WR and I think Cooper is helping that transition because he is great about getting separation within his routs. I think as Gallup continues to develop we will see a better feel between him and Dak.

As I said I see things Dak can and must continue to improve on but I will not sit here and join the beat up Dak crowd and over look things that are improving

 

[Kevinicus]

This is the the lamest narrative going. Guess what, all QBs need talent around them. Look at Rogers right now. Look at Wentz.

What QB do you think is carrying their team right now with subpar talent?

*Checks Wentz and Rodgers #s*

Not sure I see what you're trying to say...

 

[cern]

Romo as well and they were both franchise quarterbacks who had HOF coaches. Who's Dak's HOF coach? Not excusing him but it is a handicap.

dak's still an enigma to me. can't discount that rookie season. and when we open up the game and move at a quicker pace, he does well. but I think he'd do much better with an offensive minded coach.

 

[Philmonroe]

Dak had one bad game in late 2016. I have no idea why some people on this board continue to push this false narrative.

Dak didn't do good against the Giants or Vikings and they were both late in the year. Stop lying.

 

[Philmonroe]

The excuse for romo was he needed a better o line, hence those 8 and 8 years. How did romo carry a more talent stacked offense?

Better doesn't equal all pro at every position so you have no point.

 

[ConstantReboot]

We have an up and coming defense and a struggling bottom tier offense because our OL is not what it was, our receiving Corp has been downgraded and we have an average passing QB.

Everything on offense has to gell to be effective. When our most talented player has a big nite it helps set the tone. And when our QB is more consistent and doesn’t turn the ball over he’s more effective.

We are still going to struggle against top defenses and putting up as many points as top offenses. I’d say we are a middle of the pack team until more talent is added.

Dak has crap for talent that surrounds him. Until Cooper came and joined the party. So I would agree with you that he needs talent for sure.

I wonder if you also look at the top QBs in this league, you also notice they are surrounded by talent as well. Just like every QB in this league. So before you go ape crazy in your hatred on Dak, just to let you know ALL QBs, even the great ones, need talent all around them to succeed.

 

[HungryLion]

Dak didn't do good against the Giants or Vikings and they were both late in the year. Stop lying.

He was ok against the Vikings. Low yardage totals. But decent YPA. Solid completion percrentage. A touchdown and no turnovers. Over 100 an rating. It wasn’t a “bad” game

After those games he had some of the best games of his season against the Lions, Bucs and in the playoffs.

So again, the insinuations that Dak’s game was falling apart toward the end of the season, is nonsense.

 

[Philmonroe]

He was fine against the Vikings.

After those games he had some of the best games of his season against the Lions, Bucs and in the playoffs.

So again, the insinuations that Dak’s game was falling apart toward the end of the season, is nonsense.

That's a lie but you on Daks tip too hard to see the real

 

[Philmonroe]

Well, call me old fashioned, but in my world the buck STOPS at the top. And Garrett deserves 98% of that butt kicking, just for doing NOTHING until late in the 3rd to try and stop the beating Dak was taking....so yea I put it all at clappers feet. 1/2 time is to make ADJUSTMENTS for what aint working... how many times you see clapper and vanilla queen do that?

Well if the buck stops at the top the hell some of y'all on here constantly whining about Dak criticism when he is the tops as far as on field position?

 

[HungryLion]

That's a lie but you on Daks tip too hard to see the real

Look at the stats vs the Vikings.

Solid completion percentage. Over 100 QB rating. A touchdown. No turnovers.

Some key rushes for first downs late in the game to seal the game.

It wasn’t a bad game.

He also had very good games against the lions, Bucs and in the playoffs. All after the giants game. It’s the truth.

But if you want to be Ignorant and tell me “I’m on his tip” , feel free to continue doing so.

I do find it odd that you’re thinking about Dak’s tip though.

 

[Philmonroe]

Look at the stats vs the Vikings.

Solid completion percentage. Over 100 QB rating. A touchdown. No turnovers.

Some key rushes for first downs late in the game to seal the game.

It wasn’t a bad game.

But if you want to be Ignorant and tell me “I’m on his tip” , feel free to continue doing so.

I do find it odd that you’re thinking about Dak’s tip though.

I don't give an expletive about the stats I saw the game. He wasn't close to good in that game. Stats need to verify what was saw on field not on their on tell the story. You go peddle that junk to some fantasy nerd but it doesn't work on me.