Steelers Cowboys Game Dec 7th 2008

[TNCowboy]

How could a drive that leads to no points be a "backbreaker"? Stumped.

I don't know about being a backbreaker, but it completely changed the game. Pittsburgh was able to move the ball after that.

The defense played a fine game, but once again, when they had an opportunity to win a game, they couldn't.

 

[Trendnet]

How could a drive that leads to no points be a "backbreaker"? Stumped.

I believe it cost the cowboys field position on that play...

They don't complete that pass.... Cowboys force a punt, rather than a missed FG, the complex of the game changes at that point.

But, I'm just going from memory here... so I could be wrong.

Besides, what difference does it make.. clearly Romo is the worst QB in the NFL. The Cowboys need to draft a new one, so the OP's life in Pittsburgh is better. The Cowboys organization needs to base their plans on how it makes his life easier.

 

[gbrittain]

Why do people also go to these people to justify Romo. Look I like Romo but if you're going to compare him to someone compare him to Staubach and Aikman because that's where we're trying to go.

Because that would be crazy. Last time I checked first ballot Hall of Fame QBs are hard to come by. Most teams languish looking for a serviceable at best QB.

We are lucky to have him and that is the truth. So no, I am not going to compare him to Staubach and Aikman yet. One day he may merit that or one day it will be clear he does not.

Until then I am glad we have a QB that would make most any idiot's top 10 QBs in the game right now list.

Should we judge Barber by Emmitt standards? That is just ridiculous. We are lucky to have Barber no matter how far short he comes of Emmitt's greatness.

 

[THUMPER]

Why do people also go to these people to justify Romo. Look I like Romo but if you're going to compare him to someone compare him to Staubach and Aikman because that's where we're trying to go.

When I do that people come in and throw out that he sucks because he hasn't won a playoff game. Statistically Romo is so far ahead of either Staubach or Aikman it isn't funny. That is not to say he is a better QB than either guy because he's only played a few years, but that he has the potential to be great.

His production has been phenomenal so far, now he needs to become a better leader and learn how to rally the team rather than trying to win it all by himself. Romo typically makes mistakes when he is trying to make something out of nothing or out of a broken play.

That is both good and bad because sometimes he is successful and makes a big play but other times it costs us due to a turnover. Knowing when to just tuck it in and run or throw it away comes with maturity. Once he learns that he will be one of the top-3 QBs in the league an will lead this team to playoff wins and hopefully SB titles as well.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

If Felix doesn't get hurt, I truly believe we win 10 or 11 games. He is such an explosive player, that at the end of a game like Pittsburgh, he is the one making a huge play to break the other teams back.

No doubt. There were a few plays where Choice got into the secondary and got 12 or 15 yards. They were nice runs, but I kept thinking, "Felix would've taken that one to the house."

 

[birdwells1]

Because that would be crazy. Last time I checked first ballot Hall of Fame QBs are hard to come by. Most teams languish looking for a serviceable at best QB.

We are lucky to have him and that is the truth. So no, I am not going to compare him to Staubach and Aikman yet. One day he may merit that or one day it will be clear he does not.

Until then I am glad we have a QB that would make most any idiot's top 10 QBs in the game right now list.

Should we judge Barber by Emmitt standards? That is just ridiculous. We are lucky to have Barber no matter how far short he comes of Emmitt's greatness.

So we should just keep measuring him to the lowest common denominator (trash QBs) to make us feel good. Listen this is not the browns, chiefs, or seahawks. This is, as Big Bill said, The Dallas Freaking Cowboys. For those other teams I mention they would have retired Danny White's jersey by now but for Cowboy fans he's just the guy who couldn't win the big one. Fair or not that's the standard the boy's have set and the one fans expect.

 

[Angus]

I watched this game agian last night. It made me nearly puke. Defence played better than anyone expected.

Romo needed punched in the face after the game.

4 turnovers 3 ints ,1 fumble, 1 of the ints a pick 6 that cost the cowboys the game. Tony on his own stopped 4 drives with turnovers.

Thanks Tony, you have made living in Pittsburgh and being a cowboys fan a living hell for the next 4 years.

good work.

I see you joined the board a few days before that game last year. Are you sure you are not a Steeler troll trying to stir up trouble? Seems like it.

 

[gbrittain]

So we should just keep measuring him to the lowest common denominator (trash QBs) to make us feel good. Listen this is not the browns, chiefs, or seahawks. This is, as Big Bill said, The Dallas Freaking Cowboys. For those other teams I mention they would have retired Danny White's jersey by now but for Cowboy fans he's just the guy who couldn't win the big one. Fair or not that's the standard the boy's have set and the one fans expect.

Let's just compare him to all the greats. I mean he has been starting for two whole years now. Come on man...you know the deal.

I will put it in simple terms for you. Romo does not measure up to Staubach and Aikman yet or perhaps never. Remains to be seen. However, with Romo at the helm we are now contenders when Dallas was never going to be a contender with the Carter, Hutchinson, Wright, Banks, Henson, Leaf, Testaverde of the NFL world.

It is ridiculous to want to compare him after two seasons starting to two of the very best QBs to ever don an NFL uniform.

With Romo at QB, Dallas is a contender. Before Romo we were not. Does not get more simple than that.

Heck lets go ahead and compare all our current Cowboy players to all our All Time Greats:

Barber to Emmitt
Roy Williams to Irvin
Kosier to Allen
Bradie James to Lee Roy Jordan
Columbo to Rayfield Wright
Ken Hamlin to Mel Renfro
Jay Ratliff to Randy White
Dorsett to Felix Jones

Not looking good for to many current Cowboys outside of Ware and Witten. So yeah, Barber is no Emmitt but I'm glad we have him. Ratliff is no Randy White, but I'm glad we have him. Newman is no Deion Sanders, but I'm glad we have him. You get the drift.

I doubt you say hey compare Spears to Randy White. The fact that you want to compare Romo to Aikman and Staubach should tell you something.

 

[Apollo Creed]

That game had me fired up. Remember the goal line stand, our guys came off the field pumped up and we stole the energy out of that stadium.

That was one of those games when Red should've dialed up a trick play, in that setting under those conditions with eager safeties. Even a simple flea flicker would've kept them a little more honest. But we didn't run one the entire season. Meh.

I remember Romo talking crap to Harrison, "Wait, you guys are calling a timeout?" Then he hit Townsend for 6.

 

[Idgit]

You just lost 20 bucks. You moron!

Watch the personal insults.

There's such thing as posters who haven't a clue, complain about the wrong problems, and then don't own it after the fact. It's pathetic, I agree, but not all that unusual with Cowboy fans, unfortunately.

 

[AdamJT13]

Even the defense cost them - remember that long third down pass on Newman? If they don't complete that pass Pitt might not even score an offensive TD in the game.

Pittsburgh didn't even score on that drive. What led to their first TD was a long punt return.

 

[EPL0c0]

I too was disgusted after this game. Dallas had just won 3 in a row heading into the December stretch. At least for me, hopes were high that this December would be different...better than the previous 2 seasons. It was a pretty crappy way to start it though.

Despite the defense really stepping up in this game and getting 5sacks, forcing 2 fumbles, holding them to 3/16 on 3rd down (18%) and to just 70yds rushing the ultimate difference was that one crap pass.

 

[CATCH17]

Pittsburgh didn't even score on that drive. What led to their first TD was a long punt return.

Yeah I was just going off what I remember.

No points no foul. It was a big change of field position though.

It wasn't like Newman got burnt either. He was just playing every route except the long ball.

 

[CATCH17]

I too was disgusted after this game. Dallas had just won 3 in a row heading into the December stretch. At least for me, hopes were high that this December would be different...better than the previous 2 seasons. It was a pretty crappy way to start it though.

Despite the defense really stepping up in this game and getting 5sacks, forcing 2 fumbles, holding them to 3/16 on 3rd down (18%) and to just 70yds rushing the ultimate difference was that one crap pass.

I wasn't really disgusted after this game.

I just felt like we were the better team and just gave it away at the end. (something we love to do.)

The Ravens game disgusted me. The 2nd eagles game I stopped watching after we just opened the flood gates and LET them trounce us.

We showed no pride in that Eagles game.

 

[bbgun]

Despite the defense really stepping up in this game and getting 5sacks, forcing 2 fumbles, holding them to 3/16 on 3rd down (18%) and to just 70yds rushing the ultimate difference was that one crap pass.

"But .. but .. Newman gave up that long pass to Holmes, which turned the game around!"

This loss was totally on the offense.

 

[birdwells1]

Let's just compare him to all the greats. I mean he has been starting for two whole years now. Come on man...you know the deal.

I will put it in simple terms for you. Romo does not measure up to Staubach and Aikman yet or perhaps never. Remains to be seen. However, with Romo at the helm we are now contenders when Dallas was never going to be a contender with the Carter, Hutchinson, Wright, Banks, Henson, Leaf, Testaverde of the NFL world.

It is ridiculous to want to compare him after two seasons starting to two of the very best QBs to ever don an NFL uniform.

With Romo at QB, Dallas is a contender. Before Romo we were not. Does not get more simple than that.

Heck lets go ahead and compare all our current Cowboy players to all our All Time Greats:

Barber to Emmitt
Roy Williams to Irvin
Kosier to Allen
Bradie James to Lee Roy Jordan
Columbo to Rayfield Wright
Ken Hamlin to Mel Renfro
Jay Ratliff to Randy White
Dorsett to Felix Jones

Not looking good for to many current Cowboys outside of Ware and Witten. So yeah, Barber is no Emmitt but I'm glad we have him. Ratliff is no Randy White, but I'm glad we have him. Newman is no Deion Sanders, but I'm glad we have him. You get the drift.

I doubt you say hey compare Spears to Randy White. The fact that you want to compare Romo to Aikman and Staubach should tell you something.

Yeah and I'm also not comparing Spears to Colston Weatherington or Barber to Michael Wiley either to make me feel better about their accomplishments. Look, I like Romo but QB are measured by what they do in Dec. and Jan fair or not. Especially Dallas Cowboys QB's. About his experience, he has been starting for 2.5 years but he had the benefit of being in the league for 6 years. It's not like he's Matt Ryan or something.

 

[Angus]

Before it is all over I expect Romo to be regarded by Cowboys fans as greater than either Staubach or Aikman, and I followed both of them throughout their NFL careers.

Except for the trolls here, and I think there are a couple who should be dismissed as mere troublemakers, the fans who are doing the most complaining were likely never around when Staubach and Aikman had their own troubles.

They will all forget Romo's troubles, too, in fifteen or twenty years when a young quarterback of great potential doesn't live up to their exacting standards, complaining that, because he is not doing nearly as well as Romo, Staubach, or Aikman on occasion, he is just trash.

They are probably Madden players who don't deal with reality very well.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

"But .. but .. Newman gave up that long pass to Holmes, which turned the game around!"

This loss was totally on the offense.

Some people would blame a 3-0 loss on the defense because "they didn't stop them when they had to", "the other D didn't allow a score, why couldn't ours do that", etc. etc.

 

[gbrittain]

Yeah and I'm also not comparing Spears to Colston Weatherington or Barber to Michael Wiley either to make me feel better about their accomplishments. Look, I like Romo but QB are measured by what they do in Dec. and Jan fair or not. Especially Dallas Cowboys QB's. About his experience, he has been starting for 2.5 years but he had the benefit of being in the league for 6 years. It's not like he's Matt Ryan or something.

The only thing Romo is guilty of is not having won a playoff game or a Super Bowl in the first two years he has started. So lets hang him. Lets go ahead and hang other losers like P Manning, Aikman, Brees, Cutler, Fouts, Griese, E Manning, Moon, Namath, Palmer, Simms, Tarkenton, Theismann, and Young.

How many HOFers, solid starters, and eventual Hall of Famers are guilty of the same?

Not implying you want him ran out of town like some do around here, but I dont know why you want to compare him to Hall of Fame QBs whose careers are complete to a guy who has been starting two whole years.

I don't pretend to know the future with Romo, but my point is we are eons better with him and can actually put playoffs and Super Bowl in our vocabulary with Romo at QB whereas that would have been an impossibility with those dirt bags I mentioned earlier.

 

[GoBoys41]

I'm sorry, Romo had open receivers and the line played as well as you could expect against maybe the best pass rush in the league. The D did their job. Romo screwed the pooch against the Steelers. And I'm a full on Romo supporter, but you can't deny reality. Romo plays even mediocre that game, we win comfortably.