News: Stephen Jones critical of Dallas Cowboys stars after loss

[Stash]

I remember Garrett getting a job offer to go to Baltimore, so that isn't truthful.

Honestly think he'd still get one?

Do you think Baltimore or Atlanta would want a do-over?

 

[birdwells1]

I don't even think Garrett has the right to.

Someone, sorry I forget who, has a sig line that shows the awful truth.

None of the people in positions of power in this organization have ever earned the positions they've been given.

Jerry never earned the role of GM, he bought it. And he's never earned the right to keep it.

Stephen got his role because Daddy owns the team. He wouldn't be anywhere near a football team otherwise.

And Garrett has moved up the coaching ranks, not on accomplishment, but because he's well thought of by the Jones family.

None have roles based on merit, and none of them would ever achieve those roles elsewhere.

At least the players earned their spot.

Man, you preached right there.

 

[CyberB0b]

Honestly think he'd still get one?

Do you think Baltimore or Atlanta would want a do-over?

No, but you can say that about a lot of coaches. The fact is, he would have been coaching another team if the Cowboys didn't hire him, so your contention is a falsehood.

 

[trueblue1687]

Yes. We've all wanted to call out the only two productive players on defense in Hatcher and Lee.

Seems pretty obvious that he's simply showing that the top players on the team fell short, so of course the rest of the culls did too. Those are the ostensible leaders of the team...it starts with them.

 

[birdwells1]

I remember Garret getting a job offer to go to Baltimore, so that isn't truthful.

He got the job as oc because he has a Princeton education and Is a former Dallas Cowboys qb, jj thought he was getting the next Sean Payton and in 2007 he seemed to be correct. After that year he got hc offers but it seemed the dc of the league got film on him and this offense hasnt been the same since.

 

[WV Cowboy]

This stuff might have needed said, .. but not in public.

Maybe this is stuff the players needed to hear, .. in the lockerroom/meetings.

 

[trueblue1687]

Maybe Stephen should have done his part and gone down to the field to breath his hot liquored up breath on the players.

I agree...so many blame them for the losses anyway, why not? Was it Parcells that said "players play the game"?? Over simplification, but it's pretty lowbrow to blame the lousy play of players on guys who want to win at any cost. Then again, I heard the same crap in the heyday when the three Lombardis showed up in the 90's. It's only their fault if it goes bad. Crummy draft picks? That's Jones. Good ones? That's Coach ___. Losing season? Not lackluster performance - that's Jones' fault too. Paid for a marque name to help the team? Jones fault for mortgaging the future of the team if they aren't #1 in the league at their position. Don't go to the playoffs? Jones again...nevermind the other 25+ teams that didn't go either...that makes Jones the absolute worst GM/Owner in the league...he should fire himself for the good of the team

 

[Stash]

No, but you can say that about a lot of coaches. The fact is, he would have been coaching another team if the Cowboys didn't hire him, so your contention is a falsehood.

And it would have been the same mistake on their part, that it has been on ours.

No falsehood.

He's never earned any job he's been given.

Just because they would have made the same mistake we have doesn't justify it.

Still a mistake.

 

[WV Cowboy]

None of the people in positions of power in this organization have ever earned the positions they've been given.

None have roles based on merit, and none of them would ever achieve those roles elsewhere.

Wow, .. that is scary true.

We should not be surprised that we have done nothing the last 18 yrs or so.

You have heard the phrase, .. "the future looks so bright I have to wear shades."

My shades are broken, jammed into the back of the kitchen junk drawer for quite some time now.

 

[Stash]

He got the job as oc because he has a Princeton education and Is a former Dallas Cowboys qb, jj thought he was getting the next Sean Payton and in 2007 he seemed to be correct. After that year he got hc offers but it seemed the dc of the league got film on him and this offense hasnt been the same since.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he have someone doing half of that OC job for him then?

Not to mention a pretty good offense already in place?

 

[Alexander]

I think he should get under the bus with all of the players he's thrown there. His comments aren't off-base, but if he's being honest about leveling criticism, he and his daddy are far from exempt. I admire honesty, but if you're going to be honest, be really honest. Not just pointing the finger of blame at everyone else.

It will end like it always does. Jerry Jones will talk about people getting "uncomfortable", being "taken to the woodshed" and the real issues with how this organization will be denied as he speaks to the man in the mirror.

 

[CowboyGil]

Sean Lee even said there's nothing wrong with the scheme, it's the players.

 

[CyberB0b]

And it would have been the same mistake on their part, that it has been on ours.

No falsehood.

He's never earned any job he's been given.

Just because they would have made the same mistake we have doesn't justify it.

Still a mistake.

You are combining two arguments into one:

And Garrett has moved up the coaching ranks, not on accomplishment, but because he's well thought of by the Jones family.

None have roles based on merit, and none of them would ever achieve those roles elsewhere.

This is an absolute falsehood. You are wrong. Period. He was coaching at a few other places before he collected a paycheck from the Jones family.

And it would have been the same mistake on their part, that it has been on ours.

Just because they would have made the same mistake we have doesn't justify it.

No argument from me here. Your original assertion was that he didn't earn it, and that no one else would have hired him. That was false.

 

[Stash]

It will end like it always does. Jerry Jones will talk about people getting "uncomfortable", being "taken to the woodshed" and the real issues with how this organization will be denied as he speaks to the man in the mirror.

Until fans/consumers no longer buy into it or stand for it or find it acceptable.

 

[Alexander]

Until fans/consumers no longer buy into it or stand for it or find it acceptable.

The short memory span of Dallas fans works in Jones' favor. All he has to do each year is grumble a little bit for show and people line up at Oxnard, San Antonio wherever he directs the circus.

 

[Stash]

You are combining two arguments into one:

They are interconnected, not separate.

This is an absolute falsehood. You are wrong. Period. He was coaching at a few other places before he collected a paycheck from the Jones family.

So, as a former quarterback, he got a job as a QB coach. What did he do as QB coach to earn an OC job?

Nothing. The promotion was never earned.

And what did he do as an OC to earn a promotion to head coach?

Again, nothing.

If the Jones family, and plenty of fans, didn't have 'visions of Landry, dancing in their heads', this charade would have ended several years ago.

No argument from me here. Your original assertion was that he didn't earn it, and that no one else would have hired him. That was false.

My assertion was that he didn't earn it, and results bear that out. The fact that two other teams almost made the mistake we did does not change that fact. And now that the cat is out of the bag, and the lack of results are clear for all to see, no other NFL team will make the same mistake again.

After he's fired here, Jason Garrett will never see another NFL head coaching job again.

 

[Stash]

The short memory span of Dallas fans works in Jones' favor. All he has to do each year is grumble a little bit for show and people line up at Oxnard, San Antonio wherever he directs the circus.

I'm not sure, I think the tide is turning. Or maybe that's wishful thinking in my part.

Even the biggest diehards can no longer cling to the fallacy of this team showing progress, or 'the process' working in any way.

 

[Gadfly22]

Thanks for the update, Stephen! Just confirming what has been clear for a while: this isn't supposed to be a professionally run NFL team. From the Jones' point of view, they're just the "Dallas Cowtoys" -- intended to be a cash cow and personal ego-stoking engine. Happy Headlines!

 

[Seven]

I remember Garrett getting a job offer to go to Baltimore, so that isn't truthful.

Whew! THAT was close. Thanks jerry.

Love,
The Ravens.

 

[mahoneybill]

By Todd Archer | ESPN.com

"You turn on the tape and guys we count on week in and week out didn't show up," Jones said at the conclusion of an NFL owners meeting at the Four Seasons Resort in Las Colinas. "I don't know what it was, but we didn't get it done and I've got to believe we can do better than that."

"They've all got to be better," Jones said. "Sean Lee has got to be better. Brandon Carr has got to be better. Bruce Carter has got to be better. Jason Hatcher has got to be better. We've all got to be better. We've got to do a better job when we do have injuries of having better players to get up and be there. It's an organizational thing. You just have to do better on the defensive side of the ball. If we want to get to where we want to get to we can't play that type of defense."

"Obviously you expect better," Jones said. "We have to be better. You can't play defense like that and be last in the league and expect to ultimately get to where we want to get to. Ultimately it's got to improve. We know there's circumstances with injuries -- no excuses -- our defensive line is kind of where it starts. We've been beaten up there but that's part of it and we'll have to keep churning there.
"But I fully expect us to play better these last three games on the defensive side of the ball."

More: http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/10122107/stephen-jones-critical-dallas-cowboys-stars-loss

Not allowing a score on each possession will technically be an improvement. What JJ & Stephen need to be saying is that we came this far with one part of our team bailing out another, and we shouldn't expect that to happen over these last games. This is about evaluating what we need to be in 2014.