What Irvin were you watching? Not #88 for the Dallas Cowboys who was the master, many said illegally, at getting separation. I get a feeling you’re too young to have watched Irvin play.No Stephen didn't, you did bringing up his tight window throws. I simply said I have seen Aikman consistently make tight window throws, and Dak not so much. Irvin seldom got separation for the record.
We are defining separation differently a push off when a defender is draped all over you is not separation that is creating a small window. And yes i am plenty old enough.What Irvin were you watching? Not #88 for the Dallas Cowboys who was the master, many said illegally, at getting separation. I get a feeling you’re too young to have watched Irvin play.
Sorry, but separation is separation not matter how you try and spin it.We are defining separation differently a push off when a defender is draped all over you is not separation that is creating a small window. And yes i am plenty old enough.
I love Irvin, but I would have to disagree. He didn't maintain possession, nor take two steps before lunging towards the goal line and losing control of the ball as it hit the ground.Time 7:45. It was a catch!
Ratings are a percentage measurement, not total quantity...Only because he had no choice when receivers get no separation. Either throw the ball or run it yourself. When you got receivers doing that for the whole season, of course he should get that honor of being number 1 passer in tight windows.
you mean aikman the guy who was repeatedly beat down his rookie year and didnt win one game and what the next year how many did he win his second year? the guy who threw aton of INTs and his last 1996 sb year he was 12 tds and 12 ints? that guy..you mean the guy that went 0-2 to start a post SB year just because he lost his Back In Emitt? you mean the guy that had like 17 HOF players with him and no slary cap guy?the QB that was known to be the key to handing off to Emitt and throwing when needed and had more sub 250yard games thanyou fans want to remember.. yes he shined in the playoffs but the Rg season numbers are very avg.. as much as i luv aikman and he was great on some of those playoff runs but at times he was bus driver and didnt put up gaudy numbers...So maybe the comparison is aikman was closer to a bus driver and suffered some when his stars were gone ? when he was being sacked a lot he was prone to some INT as well, whereas Romo was gunslinger who liked to go backyard sand lot at times to create where there was nothing.. It too Aikamn some time and a lot of stars to get going and maybe thats where the comparison stops but lets not have amnesia on Aikman where Emitt and that defense won aton of games with the coaching staff doing whatever it took to squeak out wins and that a lot of times was run heavy low passing numbers until they needed it....Jerry might be saying give Dak a chance because like Aikamn it took the right mix of players for that team to take off and aikman to become aikman..To be fair, Dak has work to dp in terms of improving his overall performance. To compare him to Aikman at this point of his career, I'm not sure what the heck Stephen was thinking by making such a comparison. That's especially so, after Dak had such an unfortunate second season. He'll get better.
yes but thats before they started calling a lot of PIs now on the WR as well for pushing off and hand fighting..its a different game and yes Irving was good at doing that at the right moment and hiding it but Dez cant do that as they are looking really hard at just that..its different game now..What Irvin were you watching? Not #88 for the Dallas Cowboys who was the master, many said illegally, at getting separation. I get a feeling you’re too young to have watched Irvin play.
True and i see that in Dak some give the guy chance. this instant win demands to be perfect just isn't healthy to ask of a kid..IMO dak doesn't have the staff lie aikman did to tech him the way JJ demanded of his staff to get the most out of players..I loved Aikman. No nonsense leader who demanded everyone play at their best. Interesting thing is he didn't have great numbers. In fact take a look at both of the QBs first two seasons.
I don't believe any Cowboys QB in their franchise history could outrun or outmuscle Dak.I didn't listen to this BUT Dak is to Aikman as Romo was to Bledslow. Aikman was deadly accurate, Dak doesn't have that yet. Aikman wasn't mobile either but mobile enough. Aikman also had amazing chemistry with Irvin. I really don't see a strong similarity to their game. Again it's like comparing Romo's game to Bledsoe's game. Romo was mobile, Bledsoe feet of clay. Truly I'd say Dak is more like Quincy Carter with higher character, leadership ability and self esteem. Dak is smart, Quincy not so much
I don't believe any Cowboys QB in their franchise history could outrun or outmuscle Dak.
you mean aikman the guy who was repeatedly beat down his rookie year and didnt win one game and what the next year how many did he win his second year? the guy who threw aton of INTs and his last 1996 sb year he was 12 tds and 12 ints? that guy..you mean the guy that went 0-2 to start a post SB year just because he lost his Back In Emitt? you mean the guy that had like 17 HOF players with him and no slary cap guy?the QB that was known to be the key to handing off to Emitt and throwing when needed and had more sub 250yard games thanyou fans want to remember.. yes he shined in the playoffs but the Rg season numbers are very avg.. as much as i luv aikman and he was great on some of those playoff runs but at times he was bus driver and didnt put up gaudy numbers...So maybe the comparison is aikman was closer to a bus driver and suffered some when his stars were gone ? when he was being sacked a lot he was prone to some INT as well, whereas Romo was gunslinger who liked to go backyard sand lot at times to create where there was nothing.. It too Aikamn some time and a lot of stars to get going and maybe thats where the comparison stops but lets not have amnesia on Aikman where Emitt and that defense won aton of games with the coaching staff doing whatever it took to squeak out wins and that a lot of times was run heavy low passing numbers until they needed it....Jerry might be saying give Dak a chance because like Aikamn it took the right mix of players for that team to take off and aikman to become aikman..
Skip and Shannon discuss Stephen Jones' comment: "Dak is more like Troy Aikman than Tony Romo."