Stephen thinks Prescott is one of the best QB's

[NotForLong]

Are you hoping he gets hurt, to prove many of you right? Or, are you hoping he stays healthy, returns to what he has been, with a few extra pieces and proves the FO right?

He will suck it up again and then tap out again

When he "Injured" his hammy they were checking his hand on the sidelines

Dak is a coward and can't and will not face the criticism. Not for a whole year

 

[CyberB0b]

The fact are ownership believe he’s one of the best is a core issue for us. And keep expecting him to carry us.

He just isn’t the best or one of the best in the league. Dont know many fans who would argue that.

But it certainly explains why we are paying him, the type of team we have built around him and the continued lack of success.

He’s a top 15 QB, but his body is failing him rapidly and he’s a shell of his former self.

 

[Swagger]

To be regarded as one of the best quarterbacks in the league as in elite then surely by year 10 said quarterback will have either been league MVP or played in a Superbowl. Dak has achieved neither. He is not in the elite club of Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Jackson or Hurts.

 

[Hadenough]

He will suck it up again and then tap out again

When he "Injured" his hammy they were checking his hand on the sidelines

Dak is a coward and can't and will not face the criticism. Not for a whole year

Dak was so freaking lucky! He was about to have the worst season of his career when he jumped ship.

 

[Ranching]

Prefer he stays healthy of course and prove many of the naysayers wrong.
But I need to give my honest opinion as well.

And at times be facetious.

I feel the same...Dak has some talent, if healthy. He take a lot of heat, comes with the job and contract, but every players and coach, is reliant on others to step up and do there jobs as well. I remember when I was coaching....I would do my job reviews, and sometimes have to fire coaches because their 16 and 17 year old players, didn't play up to par. Taking a man's 90k a year paycheck and livelihood because of this.....then i would think, this coach didn't step up and his failure to do so, could have caused me my livelihood. Driving a bus or corvette doesn't matter, all that matters is, did you get there, not how did you get there. I hope Dak comes through as our bus driver....he's all we got.

 

[Ranching]

He will suck it up again and then tap out again

When he "Injured" his hammy they were checking his hand on the sidelines

Dak is a coward and can't and will not face the criticism. Not for a whole year

A coward? Lol! I'm 58 years old, I can barely walk. Didn't get to finish my career because of multiple knee, ankle and shoulder surgeries. 4 broken bones, torn ligaments in my right shoulder, multiple left shoulder dislocations, 3 concussions, complete ankle reconstruction, within the next few months I'll need 2 knees replacements and spinal fusion surgery....I guess I was a coward in the minds of some ignorant fans that sat up in the stands, eating popcorn and spewing out stupid comments.....tough talking fans....lol! Coward? Put a little extra butter in your popcorn....that's what real men do.

 

[Diehardblues]

He’s a top 15 QB, but his body is failing him rapidly and he’s a shell of his former self.

A top 15 QB is probably more accurate. And your strategy building around a middle of the pack QB would be much different than one who they believe is one of the best.

 

[CyberB0b]

A top 15 QB is probably more accurate. And your strategy building around a middle of the pack QB would be much different than one who they believe is one of the best.

Yup, and it starts with not paying him top dollar. Oops.

 

[Diehardblues]

Yup, and it starts with not paying him top dollar. Oops.

Jethro has been All In on Prescott since he benched Romo. And it’s entirely possible its become more about proving he was right than what’s in the best interest of Cowboys football.

 

[75boyz]

I try to keep it real and to the truth.
But you know me. Sometimes I need to stir it up as well.

Yeah,
I'm much more a fan of this reality based alter ego vice the pollyanna Cowboys are victims of a bad fanbase schtick you use at other times.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

He will suck it up again and then tap out again

When he "Injured" his hammy they were checking his hand on the sidelines

Dak is a coward and can't and will not face the criticism. Not for a whole year

That was really weird. Even the tv crew was confused.

 

[Creeper]

But you also need a QB who won't choke, especially in the first two quarters. Hurts might not be a great QB, but he didn't choke through the playoffs like a certain number 4.

I don't disagree. But Do you think Mahomes chocked? Or did the Eagles defense shut him down?

 

[75boyz]

A coward? Lol! I'm 58 years old, I can barely walk. Didn't get to finish my career because of multiple knee, ankle and shoulder surgeries. 4 broken bones, torn ligaments in my right shoulder, multiple left shoulder dislocations, 3 concussions, complete ankle reconstruction, within the next few months I'll need 2 knees replacements and spinal fusion surgery....I guess I was a coward in the minds of some ignorant fans that sat up in the stands, eating popcorn and spewing out stupid comments.....tough talking fans....lol! Coward? Put a little extra butter in your popcorn....that's what real men do.

Try living half your life on foreign sand, all the while protecting the rights of free speech here only to get personally insulted by your opinion and cap it off with suffering lifelong disabilities for protecting those freedoms of those who insult you.

Yeah,
I'm a coward.

 

[Creeper]

Fair enough.
History supports me fully.
Whenever anyone tries to downplay/ minimize the most important position on the field is when I will respond in kind.

It's what the other 31 General Managers are looking for.
It's the starting point to foundational success as historical stats support.

If you want to believe that QB is just another starter of the 22 you do that.

I will tell you that having a defense is secondary to elite quarterbacking regardless of this most recent SB in which I countered your argument with my opinion that Dak STILL would have lost.

Coaching and quarterbacking matters.
As a matter of fact they are items number 2 and 3 to overall NFL success. Right under number one.
General Managing.

The Dallas Cowboys are zero for 3 with all 3 above mentioned position holders as repeated failures at their jobs.
Get the Steel Curtain, Doomsday or 85 Bears... they ain't rescuing these 3 bums.

The best chance the Cowboys had to win a Super Bowl was the 2007-2008 season. The Cowboys went 13-3, had the first round bye and then lost to the wild card Giants in the divisional round of the playoffs. I think had they not choked to the Giants, they would have won that Super Bowl. Romo choked, and others choked as well,

I thought they had a good chance in 2016-2017 but lost a tough game to Aaron Rodgers and the Packers. It was a game they could have and should have won. The defense let them down at the end of the game but they were in that game for 60 minutes. Dak did not choke that day. He actually led them back from a 28-13 deficit to tie the game with 58 seconds on the clock until the Packers kicked the game winning FG with 3 seconds on the clock. Rodgers threw a miracle to the sideline for a huge 1st down on that game winning drive.

Since then, they really haven't had what I would call a SB worthy team. In 2023 they were close except they had issues on defense that were evident the entire year. GB exploited their inability to stop the run. Aaron Jones, who always seemed to give the Cowboys fits, did so again. But in the off-season rather than fix the 2 holes in the Cowboys lineup, they actually made things worse.

And here we are. If the defense did not choke in 2016-2017 to give the Packers the win, I wonder what we would be saying about Dak now.

 

[75boyz]

The best chance the Cowboys had to win a Super Bowl was the 2007-2008 season. The Cowboys went 13-3, had the first round bye and then lost to the wild card Giants in the divisional round of the playoffs. I think had they not choked to the Giants, they would have won that Super Bowl. Romo choked, and others choked as well,

I thought they had a good chance in 2016-2017 but lost a tough game to Aaron Rodgers and the Packers. It was a game they could have and should have won. The defense let them down at the end of the game but they were in that game for 60 minutes. Dak did not choke that day. He actually led them back from a 28-13 deficit to tie the game with 58 seconds on the clock until the Packers kicked the game winning FG with 3 seconds on the clock. Rodgers threw a miracle to the sideline for a huge 1st down on that game winning drive.

Since then, they really haven't had what I would call a SB worthy team. In 2023 they were close except they had issues on defense that were evident the entire year. GB exploited their inability to stop the run. Aaron Jones, who always seemed to give the Cowboys fits, did so again. But in the off-season rather than fix the 2 holes in the Cowboys lineup, they actually made things worse.

And here we are. If the defense did not choke in 2016-2017 to give the Packers the win, I wonder what we would be saying about Dak now.

Dak usually starts flat, and throws picks in most playoff games and his prevent defense catchup game is always touted post game as too little too late. When in actuality he's a master at this type of performance. Makng it look as though it was closer than it was when it really wasnt.
The GB game in which you mention is his almost comeback standard Prescott. Suck for a half to more of a game and then the comeback attempt falling short against opposition prevent defenses.
And lastly, you seem to have left out the first 49ers road loss when the defense totally balled out in which had Micah post game saying we did our job meaning the defense.
Add the following second SF home playoff loss and then the most recent Green Bay debacle and that pretty accurately illustrates the type playoff performances he is capable of over a 10 year career.
All GMs pay their lions share of cap resource dollars to the quarterback position.
But the Cowboys were cursed with a GM who mis evaluated a 4th rd QB who walked into the best oline in the NFL as a rookie along with a top RB of 3 to 4 years.
In year 10 his footwork is absolutely awful and his dear in headlights sideline look has become a staple when facing .500 or above competition.
You normally have excellent player reviews listing traits and opinions of players I agree with.
I just think you are super way off on this one.
But I can still respect that as your opinion.

 

[Creeper]

Dak usually starts flat, and throws picks in most playoff games and his prevent defense catchup game is always touted post game as too little too late. When in actuality he's a master at this type of performance. Makng it look as though it was closer than it was when it really wasnt.
The GB game in which you mention is his almost comeback standard Prescott. Suck for a half to more of a game and then the comeback attempt falling short against opposition prevent defenses.
And lastly, you seem to have left out the first 49ers road loss when the defense totally balled out in which had Micah post game saying we did our job meaning the defense.
Add the following second SF home playoff loss and then the most recent Green Bay debacle and that pretty accurately illustrates the type playoff performances he is capable of over a 10 year career.
All GMs pay their lions share of cap resource dollars to the quarterback position.
But the Cowboys were cursed with a GM who mis evaluated a 4th rd QB who walked into the best oline in the NFL as a rookie along with a top RB of 3 to 4 years.
In year 10 his footwork is absolutely awful and his dear in headlights sideline look has become a staple when facing .500 or above competition.
You normally have excellent player reviews listing traits and opinions of players I agree with.
I just think you are super way off on this one.
But I can still respect that as your opinion.

I was highlighting the two seasons where I thought the Cowboys TEAM was good enough to maybe make a SB appearance. I left out seasons where I did not think they were good enough for one reason or another. 2007 and 2016 they went 13-3, had first round byes and were pretty good on both sides of the ball for the most part. 2007 was probably a stronger team than 2016 but both were good teams.

I am not here defending Dak. If you research my posts going back to 2020 you will find I thought Jerry made a mistake signing Dak to a $40 million contract. I thought that money was crazy and cited the 2019 19-7 Eagles loss as the reason I would not have paid Dak $40 million. That was a huge game for Dallas and Dak was awful. Some folks blamed his shoulder injury, but as I pointed out, he had a huge game against Washington the following week. So much for a bad shoulder.

But, Dak is here to stay since Jerry stupidly thought he was worth $60 million and $230 million guaranteed, and simply I will not accept that the Cowboys put the entire blame for this team on Dak. Look at this roster. If anyone thinks this roster is better than a 7-10 team I say take off the rose colored glasses. Look at the RBs, the WRs, the DTs, heck the entire DL and the OL and tell me with a straight face this team can compete with the Eagles or Chiefs. The Cowboys were a bad team last year because they had too many bad players. Dak is just an excuse for some folks who maybe refuse to face reality.

Is Dak a great QB? No, not even close. Does Dak have his flaws. Yes, he does. Is Dak worth $60 million? No way. I am not sure he earned his $40 million yet. But Hurts winning a SB should be encouragement. Hurts was not great even in 2024. He had a great game in the SB. But maybe that's because he plays behind a great team that protected him. And this is what I am saying about Dak. Give him 2 top WRs, a top TE, a great RB and great OL and a great defense, and I think he can win a SB too. It takes all the pressure off of him.

What I do know is that the thinking that a QB, WR, Edge rusher, and a CB getting a lot of money means the team is better is nuts. The Eagles are good from top to bottom and that is the bar that has been set. No one is going to convince me the Hurts is a top 5 QB in this league. Watch him for the entire season. Too many people put too much emphasis on one game.

 

[75boyz]

I was highlighting the two seasons where I thought the Cowboys TEAM was good enough to maybe make a SB appearance. I left out seasons where I did not think they were good enough for one reason or another. 2007 and 2016 they went 13-3, had first round byes and were pretty good on both sides of the ball for the most part. 2007 was probably a stronger team than 2016 but both were good teams.

I am not here defending Dak. If you research my posts going back to 2020 you will find I thought Jerry made a mistake signing Dak to a $40 million contract. I thought that money was crazy and cited the 2019 19-7 Eagles loss as the reason I would not have paid Dak $40 million. That was a huge game for Dallas and Dak was awful. Some folks blamed his shoulder injury, but as I pointed out, he had a huge game against Washington the following week. So much for a bad shoulder.

But, Dak is here to stay since Jerry stupidly thought he was worth $60 million and $230 million guaranteed, and simply I will not accept that the Cowboys put the entire blame for this team on Dak. Look at this roster. If anyone thinks this roster is better than a 7-10 team I say take off the rose colored glasses. Look at the RBs, the WRs, the DTs, heck the entire DL and the OL and tell me with a straight face this team can compete with the Eagles or Chiefs. The Cowboys were a bad team last year because they had too many bad players. Dak is just an excuse for some folks who maybe refuse to face reality.

Is Dak a great QB? No, not even close. Does Dak have his flaws. Yes, he does. Is Dak worth $60 million? No way. I am not sure he earned his $40 million yet. But Hurts winning a SB should be encouragement. Hurts was not great even in 2024. He had a great game in the SB. But maybe that's because he plays behind a great team that protected him. And this is what I am saying about Dak. Give him 2 top WRs, a top TE, a great RB and great OL and a great defense, and I think he can win a SB too. It takes all the pressure off of him.

What I do know is that the thinking that a QB, WR, Edge rusher, and a CB getting a lot of money means the team is better is nuts. The Eagles are good from top to bottom and that is the bar that has been set. No one is going to convince me the Hurts is a top 5 QB in this league. Watch him for the entire season. Too many people put too much emphasis on one game.

Fair enough.
Well said.
Although I'll still stick with the starting QB being more than just another player on the TEAM.

It still begins and ends with QB and coaching for me.

The rest of the TEAM comes in a very very distant second.