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I’ll briefly prefix this by saying I’m not too familiar with all the contract behind-the-scenes news and decision-making.

I’ve heard that Stephen is more “stingy” than Jerry when it comes to spending money (like not making a splash in Free Agency). Does this mean that whenever Jerry eventually kicks the can that we might see a reduction in overpaid contracts (Dak/Zeke)?

I know a lot of people here think Stephen is equally bad or worse than Jerry, but I want to know what you think about THIS specific topic.
 
There are requirements for spending a minimum of the cap. They have to spend a minimum of 89% of the cap over a 4 year period.

This is why you will see some salaries really shoot up for certain positions. There could be a shortage of that position as well as a need to spend to get up to the minimum if they are behind.

I don't know where they get this he's cheap and Booger's a spend thrift. They aren't players in major FA because they are not good at it.

They do not learn because they do not pay attention. KC fixed their OL problems through FA and the draft. GB fixed their defense through FA with Preston and Zadarius Smith. And the Rams left no stone unturned adding veteran talent.
 
It seems to me Jerry and Stephen are complete opposite ends of the spectrum.....where Jerry likes to overpay players, and Stephen would rather not pay anything for a good FA. Could we have some kind of happy medium? o_O
 
Once Jerry is gone, I could see Stephen initially trying to lowball a lot of players on second contracts, and refusing to cave in, but i think that won't last long as we'll end up with an even worse team. Fact is, you'll have to overpay somebody, whether its a FA or your own guys. Even a perfect draft won't make much difference if the rest of the team are bottom barrel FAs
 
maryquality said:
It seems to me Jerry and Stephen are complete opposite ends of the spectrum.....where Jerry likes to overpay players, and Stephen would rather not pay anything for a good FA. Could we have some kind of happy medium? o_O
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Cant say I know, but maybe they have no choice but to be cheap in FA when they overpay to keep the guys Jerry wants to be liked by.
 
CouchCoach said:
There are requirements for spending a minimum of the cap. They have to spend a minimum of 89% of the cap over a 4 year period.

This is why you will see some salaries really shoot up for certain positions. There could be a shortage of that position as well as a need to spend to get up to the minimum if they are behind.

I don't know where they get this he's cheap and Booger's a spend thrift. They aren't players in major FA because they are not good at it.

They do not learn because they do not pay attention. KC fixed their OL problems through FA and the draft. GB fixed their defense through FA with Preston and Zadarius Smith. And the Rams left no stone unturned adding veteran talent.
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I have to fess up. The first bolded, I had no idea there was a minimum that had to be spent. I can totally see having to have a minimum though.

As for the second bolded, that's all I heard for years is that Booger overpays and that Stephen is cheap. I do agree Booger overpays. To the Joneses, the Cowboys are just a toy. Scouts and talent personnel can only do so much. The ultimate decision on who gets signed or who walks is the Joneses. The problem lies the Joneses think they are football people... If player A is a free agent and wants 40 million and player B is a free agent and wants 25 million (both playing the same position and both have the maximum talent matching the money that they're asking), Stephen will talk Daddy into going after the 25 million dollar player. Yes you can say they have to keep the cap in mind (and I agree). but if Booger didn't overpay player C, D, and E, they can afford to pay player A and our team would be that much stronger.

Now on the other side, because player B got signed, The OC or DC needs to know how to play that player to their max and get the most out of him. Quinn has proven he can do it. Marinelli proved that he can do it. I still am not convinced Marinelli was a bad DC. He was just a scapegoat to the Jason Garret era. I think when Mike Nolan came in (after Marinelli was let go), Nolan is who screwed up our Defense totally trying to reverse everything Marinelli did just to get the Defense not to understand his playbook.

I have yet to see KM prove that he can get the most out of the least. Hell, he can't even draw effective plays let alone going out on the field and working hands on whether it be with the offensive line or helping his QB or whatever he needs to get hands on with... Just my opinion....
 
Jake said:
They both seem to like their guys, probably because they picked them and want to be right.

It's not as if either is in danger of being fired if/when they're wrong, so they stick with them.
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It's as if they feel as if handing out a big contract somehow validates the draft pick and makes them seem like they know what they are doing.
 
CouchCoach said:
They do not learn because they do not pay attention. KC fixed their OL problems through FA and the draft. GB fixed their defense through FA with Preston and Zadarius Smith. And the Rams left no stone unturned adding veteran talent.
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But yet KC and the wonder boy Mohomes is sitting at home for the SB. And GB and the love fest of AR, were one and done. Also sitting at home. :muttley:
So that OL and defense rebuild did not really help but to win the division again. They are in the same situation as Dallas at the end of their season.
Sorry could not resist, but it is true. :laugh:. As that is the narrative of many on here...sitting at home...

I do agree, Dallas does not learn they can do better in FA by spending a little more to get a better player for longer term then all these 1 year prove it deals.
That is where they screw up also, too many 1 year deals. Then we have around 25 to 30 FA's every year. I doubt they will ever learn or change. This is where a strong minded HC needs to step up.
 
Stephen is just as bad as Jerry in FA decisions, just on the other end of the spectrum. When Jerry’s grip goes you’ll get a GM in Stephen that will turn this franchise into the 90’s Bengals/Browns.
That’s what happens when your next GM is trained by the worst GM in the NFL. And so on and so forth. Cowboy fans only hope is Jerruh has an epiphany on His death bed and decides to grant power to Charlotte. Let’s hope Stepehn doesn’t sense this and go the way of Commodus ala Gladiator. :D
 
MajesticRey said:
I’ll briefly prefix this by saying I’m not too familiar with all the contract behind-the-scenes news and decision-making.

I’ve heard that Stephen is more “stingy” than Jerry when it comes to spending money (like not making a splash in Free Agency). Does this mean that whenever Jerry eventually kicks the can that we might see a reduction in overpaid contracts (Dak/Zeke)?

I know a lot of people here think Stephen is equally bad or worse than Jerry, but I want to know what you think about THIS specific topic.
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This is like comparing 2 turds

both are equally bad , hopefully neither will become the GM of any team we root for

:muttley:
 
Stephen is worse than Jerry to me. He’s cheaper and he speaks like a hard line negotiator which works if you actually back those claims up- every time he has he’s paid zeke what he’s asked and dak what he’s asked.

Jerry was too trigger happy and went for flash but Stephen runs free agency like a small market bargain bin shopper.
 
MajesticRey said:
I’ll briefly prefix this by saying I’m not too familiar with all the contract behind-the-scenes news and decision-making.

I’ve heard that Stephen is more “stingy” than Jerry when it comes to spending money (like not making a splash in Free Agency). Does this mean that whenever Jerry eventually kicks the can that we might see a reduction in overpaid contracts (Dak/Zeke)?

I know a lot of people here think Stephen is equally bad or worse than Jerry, but I want to know what you think about THIS specific topic.
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Nice Mandalorian Avatar !!!!
 
CouchCoach said:
There are requirements for spending a minimum of the cap. They have to spend a minimum of 89% of the cap over a 4 year period.

This is why you will see some salaries really shoot up for certain positions. There could be a shortage of that position as well as a need to spend to get up to the minimum if they are behind.

I don't know where they get this he's cheap and Booger's a spend thrift. They aren't players in major FA because they are not good at it.

They do not learn because they do not pay attention. KC fixed their OL problems through FA and the draft. GB fixed their defense through FA with Preston and Zadarius Smith. And the Rams left no stone unturned adding veteran talent.
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Yes its crazy !!!
They are one of the best with the draft
And stink at free agency.
 
He’s the future leader of the most popular sports franchise in the U.S. The other teams don’t garner the Cowboys attention.

Plus Stephan talks mainly on local platforms.
 
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