Still irritated at the insistence that 3 QB's are kept

TheHerd

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As others have said, there is zero chance Moore is claimed if we cut him, unless Linehan leaves for another team.

For those who honestly think Moore gives us any chance of winning if Dak gets hurt, just cut him, tell him to stay in shape, and resign him if need be. I am not one of those people, fwiw. His next win at this level will be his first.

Put him on the practice squad if you really must.
 

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There is no place for that on a message board lol
It does make sense if you look at it that way. Do you want your guy you are developing trying to mimick an opponents offense, or learning yours
I'm not a Moore fan at all but I do see your point and it could be that's the teams thinking also

I do think that's how teams think about this stuff. I wish we had a better option than Moore at QB2, too, but those guys are pretty limited. We're really fortunate to have Dak in the first place. And to maybe have a guy who can develop into a good backup while we've got him at QB3. A year with Moore on the roster and having to play him at least to finish out a game in a pinch isn't all that much to ask if we end up with a better player in Rush as a result.
 

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While I don't like Moore much don't think some team wouldn't jump at him being their QB2 or QB3. Just to get thru this season not to develop. He's clearly not a franchise QB or worth investing time in being a QB1. He's a marginal backup QB at best.

Won't be surprised at what happens with him; keep or cut. Depends on how much they want to go long or keep another player plus the suspension deals to work around.
 

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There isn't anything Moore couldn't do as an assistant coach that he can do as QB#2. Moore shouldn't ever see the field with an NFL uniform again, unless you are trying to throw the game.
 

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I can't imagine a scenario where they cut either of those three and keep Moore.

We've got a pretty deep team this year, but our 54th player is still going to be a dude that's readily available on the FA market if we need them. And we won't go a year without cutting and adding guys, anyway. Nor should we. It's better to churn that bottom of the roster and keep people working hard than it is to sit tight clutching the 53 you protected at the beginning of the season.

This reasoning doesn't make sense to me. Don't clutch to the bottom of the roster but clutch onto Moore? No one is saying don't churn if people are not performing but if anyone deserves to be churned on the roster it is Noodles Moore.

Moore will be available if cut. That is the rub. I am not sure that Theaker, Brown, Jones, or White would be.

And how can you not imagine a scenario where Moore is cut? I hear Helman and Broaddus talk like they know what the coaches and execs are thinking when they say they will keep Moore but McClay, Garrett, and company are extremely cagey for all that the Joneses like to blabber.

I can easily imagine a scenario where the coaches are keeping their opinions close to the vest. I can imagine a scenario where they see what we we have seen over the past 3 years with Moore's play ie noodle arm, throwing into coverage, poor pocket presence, and turnovers. I can imagine that Garrett learns from his mistakes and doesn't trot out Brad Johnson again cause he likes him.

If they cut Moore then he will be available. Maybe the Giants pick him up for a week or two but he's garbage that was out of the league when we picked him up off the scrap heap. Put him on the practice squad and he can perform the same role that he is good for or even better bring him on as a coach.
 

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I can't imagine a scenario where they cut either of those three and keep Moore.

We've got a pretty deep team this year, but our 54th player is still going to be a dude that's readily available on the FA market if we need them. And we won't go a year without cutting and adding guys, anyway. Nor should we. It's better to churn that bottom of the roster and keep people working hard than it is to sit tight clutching the 53 you protected at the beginning of the season.

I think QB Moore stays until Irving returns at which point it's much harder to justify keeping him.
 

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I have been a Cowboy Fan since they started in 1960. Father had season tickets for decades. Mistakes have been made, but why is god's green earth would they keep a bum like Moore when we will be cutting some very good players as it is???

It seriously irritates me. It makes zero sense. The guy cannot throw a football, has no presence in the pocket and gets rattled on most plays.

We have a very good football team and I swear if we loose a Noah Brown, etc. because of Numnuts Moore, I will loose it!

That is all, have a great day.
Admittedly, I am very bothered by the prospect, as well. The instant we find out he's still on the team, we will know someone better at their craft was cut... I wouldn't even have to consult who was cut to know it.

To be clear, I want no part of Kellen Moore the player. That said, Kellen is actually practice squad eligible. And since there is likely no chance he'll get picked off waivers, if they just have to have him, why not stash him there?

The only reason I can think of is that would mean he's likely the scout team QB and I'd much prefer my defense be prepared for an NFL caliber quarterback.
 
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I do think that's how teams think about this stuff. I wish we had a better option than Moore at QB2, too, but those guys are pretty limited. We're really fortunate to have Dak in the first place. And to maybe have a guy who can develop into a good backup while we've got him at QB3. A year with Moore on the roster and having to play him at least to finish out a game in a pinch isn't all that much to ask if we end up with a better player in Rush as a result.
Moore stinks and it is asking a lot to waste a finite roster spot on him
 

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We could release sign him as a coach and if **** hit the fan resign him. It's not like any other team would claim him
I love how people say this type of stuff as if you waive a magic wand. Whose to say Kelley wants to coach and won't go search out an opportunity elsewhere? Earn his pension with years of service elsewhere?

Abra Cadabra Presto Beam... Kellen Moore give up your dream.....and coach for me!
 

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As long as Dak's in the lineup, they want Moore doing the stuff QB2s do, and Rush doing the stuff QB3s do. Those things are pretty different. You definitely need a QB2. The question is, is a guy good enough to use a spot on him as a QB3.

But for a developing rookie at the hardest position in sports, giving him a year to work on form and the playbook without the burden of game plans makes perfect sense.

And for a 2nd year starter who's developing into one of the best players in the league at his position, you want to give him a guy to bang ideas off of who's actually been in the system longer than he has.

Don't look at Moore as a guy who's not as good as either Dak or Rush who's inexplicably on the roster. He's a placeholder for Dak that helps him be a better starter and a guy who frees up Rush so that he can learn the job of NFL QB without the interruptions that come with the QB2 clipboard. Keeping Moore for one more year is better for both Dak and Rush in the long run, and costs almost nothing. I mean, it'll cost us an Emmit Cleary or whatever.

If Dak gets hurt, it'll probably be Rush getting the starter's reps in practice the next week, either way.

I almost always agree with your posts but I don't in this case. I vehemently disagree.

If keeping Moore means losing Neal or Noah or someone of that caliber...then I say let them roll with 2 QB. If Dak goes down for any length of time we probably don't make the playoffs anyway. If both Dak and Rush go down...the season is really in the dumpster and we can look to the next draft.

We want to continue to collect good young talent. Rolling with Coop and a borderline roster guy helps us do that.

I agree with those here in belieiving right now Rush is two notches better.
 

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Moore stinks and it is asking a lot to waste a finite roster spot on him

It's not though really. That 53rd spot will be held by 5-6 guys probably by season end. The difference between that guy and your top street free agent is not all that significant.

Either way, if they're developing a guy, they're very likely keeping three QBs.
 

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No one is putting Moore on their 53 if Dallas was to let him go to waivers.

For Dallas to add him to the 53 just so you can keep 3 QBs makes no sense. Put him on the practice squad and move on.
 

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You people have no idea how this coaching staff thinks. It's hilarious.:laugh:
 

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No one is putting Moore on their 53 if Dallas was to let him go to waivers.

For Dallas to add him to the 53 just so you can keep 3 QBs makes no sense. Put him on the practice squad and move on.
Its really mind boggling that they are willing to let go a promising young player like Noah Brown to keep this guy.
 

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I almost always agree with your posts but I don't in this case. I vehemently disagree.

If keeping Moore means losing Neal or Noah or someone of that caliber...then I say let them roll with 2 QB. If Dak goes down for any length of time we probably don't make the playoffs anyway. If both Dak and Rush go down...the season is really in the dumpster and we can look to the next draft.

We want to continue to collect good young talent. Rolling with Coop and a borderline roster guy helps us do that.

I agree with those here in belieiving right now Rush is two notches better.

Is Neal worth losing a year of developing Rush? Because if he's your QB2 everything else goes out the window. I'm not so much arguing for keeping Moore, by the way, as suggesting what I think the team is probably thinking.

There's a Neal in just about every FA class. He might be named Bishop or Coleman or whatever, but those guys are out there. Personally, I wouldn't lose sleep over missing out on them. Especially not with the extra picks we'll have next season. Whatever we can do to develop the QBs, I'm all for.
 

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Is Neal worth losing a year of developing Rush? Because if he's your QB2 everything else goes out the window. I'm not so much arguing for keeping Moore, by the way, as suggesting what I think the team is probably thinking.

There's a Neal in just about every FA class. He might be named Bishop or Coleman or whatever, but those guys are out there. Personally, I wouldn't lose sleep over missing out on them. Especially not with the extra picks we'll have next season. Whatever we can do to develop the QBs, I'm all for.

Why would developing Rush go out the window if they cut Moore? He would be included in the development of the gameplan every week and taking 2nd team snaps in practice. They could have him do the scout team for the first team too. All they do is read off cards and mime plays. Romo did that last season.

If anything keeping Moore means he gets less of the more meaningful snaps. Learning how to mimic Eli Manning and Carson Wentz is not going to help him nearly as much as studying and practicing what defenses teams are going to be throwing out week after week.

I have zero faith in Moore's ability to win games. I do expect Rush to turn the ball over less. Neither is an ideal backup but Moore has no upside and just as problematic if not more.

And using your thinking there are going to be QBs cut as well. You don't think you can find something the quality of Noodles out there? The bottom line here is that Neal is a better DE than Moore is a QB. Much better now and moving forward.
 
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