Stop trying to convince realists the defense is fine

[Zimmy Lives]

It's all that dag blasted Zimmer's fault for not letting the d-line get after the QB and not letting the DBs play tight and aggressive.

Seriously, the defense made the plays needed to win. Detroit, offensively, may have played their most complete game (running and passing) in several years and it still was not enough.

Give the Lions credit, playing with a heavy sense of urgency -- in their own backyard, mind you -- they gave Dallas both barrels and Dallas still came out on top.

Overall, it was a good win for both the offense and the defense.

 

[Doomsday]

I think part of it was Kitna did a good job releasing his passes before the WR broke for the ball. Timing just seemed to be very good between Kitna and his WR and the lack of pressure by the Cowboys front did not help matters.

Your right, it just seems like at some point you have to make adjustments for that. Like maybe bumping the WRs at the line to try and disrupt the timing of the play or something. Im not football genius but it is odd to me that Dallas has both Safeties back and the CBs are still giving up 7 yard cusions and giving up stuff underneath with out much of a fight. It seems like it certain situations they need to play the down and distance and rely on your deep help over the top.

 

[khiladi]

what you said is exactly what I am talking about. How you could watch that game and walk away thinking that was a "respectable" defense performance is just laughable. This is a team with Super Bowl hopes right? What did the Pack, Colts and Pats do yesterday? They treated the opposition like gum on the bottom of their shoe. This is what I mean by fans trying to convicnce those of us that see the game and can critique it fairly wheter we win or lose. Were the Detroit Lions the worst running team in the NFL....were the Detroit Lions the worst pass protecting team in the NFL? If you did not know that before the game WOULD watching that game leave you thinking "Detroit cannot pass protect or run the football"

I mean am I making this stuff up...did I watch a different game than some of you? Was this the same team that lost to the Commanders by 30...or to the Eagles by 40+?

Good post, especially the highlighted portion...

There seems to be a significant difference between the two... When Dallas faces an inconsistent QB or a rookie, the coaching scheme seems to be content with playing a lot of soft-zone to get a feel for the player.

 

[FCBarca]

We're 12-1

That's always the kool aid drinkers response, scoreboard...Look at the record, says it all.

When reality bites, it's still 'look at the record'...Except, when you look at the record and see how fortunate the team has been in some of those in the W column after the D nearly gave the game away.

Is there an improvement over last season?...Absolutely...But is this a D to feel confident about or feel change a game or make the key stop against formidable opposition?...I can't say that it is....And after the Lions ran wild on the Dallas D yesterday, no one can honestly say, apart from the irrational, that there was much faith they were going to finally stop them on their 2nd to last possession to get another shot.

We all know how the O and Romo are such a key part of this success and record but the D has been exposes, particularly against teams running similar offenses (GB, NE & Detroit)...Want a blueprint against Dallas?...We saw it again yesterday.

 

[braw]

It's all that dag blasted Zimmer's fault for not letting the d-line get after the QB and not letting the DBs play tight and aggressive.

Seriously, the defense made the plays needed to win. Detroit, offensively, may have played their most complete game (running and passing) in several years and it still was not enough.

Give the Lions credit, playing with a heavy sense of urgency -- in their own backyard, mind you -- they gave Dallas both barrels and Dallas still came out on top.

Overall, it was a good win for both the offense and the defense.

Finally, A voice of reason. This is the NFL where a zero win team(Dallas Cowboys) can beat a 0 loss team (Commanders)

 

[MissionCoach]

This is our FIRST year in Wade's system.

If you look at the stats...SD did not become dominate until the 2nd year.....I think we will follow suit.

 

[kingwhicker]

Show me the realists who has significant complaints about this team in any aspect of the game, and you have my word, I won't try to convince him of anything, ok?

I make no such promise for butt-hurt whiners, though, and that's pretty much I'll I've seen posting so far today.

Greatest Sig photo and line, EVER!

 

[superpunk]

Oh hi. The defense is fine.

/trying to convince realists the defense is fine

 

[Ren]

Hey every one,.. lets forfit the season we're doomed

Now i'm starting to see why Cowboys fans get the rep of being the whiniest fans in football :bang2:

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Hey every one,.. lets forfit the season we're doomed

Now i'm starting to see why Cowboys fans get the rep of being the whiniest fans in football :bang2:

Not really.

Have you not seen the vitriol and venom being spewed on other Fan Boards.

How about when the Patriots fans started booing their team when they had a couple of 3 and outs against the Eagles?

I am going to be listening to WIP in Philly in a bit and I gurantee you they are going to be whining.

That is what fans do...they whine and overreact.

 

[kmd24]

In 1992, the Cowboys lost mid- to late-season games against the 6-10 Rams (in Texas Stadium, no less) and the 9-7 Commanders.

In 1993, the Cowboys lost two-in-a-row in weeks 12 and 13 to the 6-10 Falcons and the 9-7 Dolphins (infamous snow bowl).

In 1994, the Cowboys lost twice in the last three games of the season, relieving the 49ers of the necessity of winning out to win homefield through the playoffs.

In 1995, the Cowboys lost two-in-a-row to the 6-10 Commanders and the 10-6 Eagles (4th and 1, anyone?).

We all know how those seasons turned out.

The thing is, even if the defense didn't play lights out for the last 6 quarters, the team is set. The usual suspects aren't changing. The scheme of late seems to be designed to limit big plays and try to give the pass rushers a chance to make a difference. They didn't in this game, but their track record in 2007 is pretty good.

We have the team we have, and no amount of teeth-gnashing is going to change that. But, the sum of the parts is a pretty good sum, even if all the parts aren't perfect.

Why?

Because it's a whole different story in the playoffs. Aikman knew this and stepped up his game in the postseason. Romo has had his mettle tested several times this season, and he's yet to be found wanting, IMO. The defense has shown that it can get a stop when it must. THESE ARE VERY GOOD THINGS.

This team has proven they can handle adversity, which is good, because it is coming in the postseason. Ware, Ellis, Newman, Witten, Barber, the OL, and, most of all, Romo, are the guys I want out there when lesser players would be crushed under the importance of the moment.

 

[Next_years_Champs]

In 1992, the Cowboys lost mid- to late-season games against the 6-10 Rams (in Texas Stadium, no less) and the 9-7 Commanders.

In 1993, the Cowboys lost two-in-a-row in weeks 12 and 13 to the 6-10 Falcons and the 9-7 Dolphins (infamous snow bowl).

In 1994, the Cowboys lost twice in the last three games of the season, relieving the 49ers of the necessity of winning out to win homefield through the playoffs.

In 1995, the Cowboys lost two-in-a-row to the 6-10 Commanders and the 10-6 Eagles (4th and 1, anyone?).

We all know how those seasons turned out.

The thing is, even if the defense didn't play lights out for the last 6 quarters, the team is set. The usual suspects aren't changing. The scheme of late seems to be designed to limit big plays and try to give the pass rushers a chance to make a difference. They didn't in this game, but their track record in 2007 is pretty good.

We have the team we have, and no amount of teeth-gnashing is going to change that. But, the sum of the parts is a pretty good sum, even if all the parts aren't perfect.

Why?

Because it's a whole different story in the playoffs. Aikman knew this and stepped up his game in the postseason. Romo has had his mettle tested several times this season, and he's yet to be found wanting, IMO. The defense has shown that it can get a stop when it must. THESE ARE VERY GOOD THINGS.

This team has proven they can handle adversity, which is good, because it is coming in the postseason. Ware, Ellis, Newman, Witten, Barber, the OL, and, most of all, Romo, are the guys I want out there when lesser players would be crushed under the importance of the moment.

Nice post some perspective is always a good thing. I agree that the defensive scheme is exactly what you stated, but I wonder if the coaches aren't keeping somethings in the bag for the playoffs. Every good coach I've ever watched did including Landry and Jimmie Johnson.

I wouldn't be surprise if come the playoffs with our secondary hopefully healthy we see some different and more agressive coverage schemes. I think our gameplans get pretty conservative from here to the playoffs and in my opinion thats a good thing.

 

[joseephuss]

This defense is better than the Colts defense that won the SB last year.

This defense is better than the Steelers defense that won the SB the previous year and the Seahawks of that same season.

 

[dbair1967]

This is our FIRST year in Wade's system.

If you look at the stats...SD did not become dominate until the 2nd year.....I think we will follow suit.

thats been pretty consistent wherever he's been...there's always improvement the 1st yr, but the greatest improvement has been the 2nd yr

I think we were all just hoping that with as much talent in place, we'd see even better results...I know we'll eventually be really good on defense, but at this point it probably isnt going to be this season

David

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Given the smack that the D spewed last week, I was certainly expecting more. I think that, deep down, the Dallas "D" was driven to put on a shut-out, but Newman's rant gave the Lion's that extra incentive to come out fired up. Give the Lions Credit, this is the second game that their offense played well. Getting busted in the chops is probably a good thing for the Defense, because it is not an elite group and a good reminder of that should help keep them motivated for the rest of the season.

Having said that, this thread is too much gloom and Doom for a 12-1 team that is close to securing home field throughout the playoffs.

 

[Hostile]

Realists or fatalists? That is the question.

I have no problem believing we need to improve. I have a real hard time believing every flaw in every player is going to prove disastrous. That's where some people just lose me.

 

[joseephuss]

Realists or fatalists? That is the question.

I have no problem believing we need to improve. I have a real hard time believing every flaw in every player is going to prove disastrous. That's where some people just lose me.

Plus how do we define disastrous? Is it not winning a Superbowl this year? Not getting to the Superbowl? Not winning a playoff game? I bet a few would say disastrous is not getting a shut out in the Superbowl.

 

[Ren]

Not really.

Have you not seen the vitriol and venom being spewed on other Fan Boards.

How about when the Patriots fans started booing their team when they had a couple of 3 and outs against the Eagles?

I am going to be listening to WIP in Philly in a bit and I gurantee you they are going to be whining.

That is what fans do...they whine and overreact.

lets be fair to the pats fans, most of them are still learning the game

and Philly actually has a reason to whine since they SUCK

 

[Hostile]

Plus how do we define disastrous? Is it not winning a Superbowl this year? Not getting to the Superbowl? Not winning a playoff game? I bet a few would say disastrous is not getting a shut out in the Superbowl.

I have learned that disastrous has many meanings. New England being unbeaten is disastrous for us. Us being 12-1 is disatrous for us. Winning games by less than 40 points is disastrous for us. Gutting out wins when most teams would lose is disastrous for us. Having Spears, Julius, Roy, or Henry in the lineup is disastrous for us.

Face it, this team sucks. [/sarcasm off]

 

[DallasDomination]

The Homers need to wake up...This defense has folded the past 3 years...

Is it better then last year?...yea

Do we have potential and talent?....Yea


But we are to inconsistant to be even average..they are who they are.A defense going along for the ride.