Stoudemire calls Bowen, Ginobili ‘dirty’ players

[zrinkill]

I became a fan as a teenager in the late 90s when Don Nelson took over. Cuban buying the team really helped push the team over the top and out from under the terrible 90s teams when they averaged 20 wins a season. I still would have liked to have seen how Mashburn-Jackson-Kidd could have done with a couple of seasons together - or even a full season, as it turned out.

And I welcome anyone to find my "trash talk" from this season. From beginning to end all I cared about was the playoffs, and we all know how that ended.

Yes you are excused from the norm ...... most of the big trash talkers have not posted in thgis forum since Dallas season ended ....'

Where are you Heavyhitta?

 

[MC KAos]

Yes you are excused from the norm ...... most of the big trash talkers have not posted in thgis forum since Dallas season ended ....'

Where are you Heavyhitta?

its like he fell from the face of the earth! dont worry well see him again after a&m starts 3-0 after beating army, colgate, and UTSASFFJASDJFASDJ at tulsa

 

[Mavs Man]

its like he fell from the face of the earth! dont worry well see him again after a&m starts 3-0 after beating army, colgate, and UTSASFFJASDJFASDJ at tulsa

Speaking of college football pushovers, I'm a UT-Austin grad, but also a North Texas grad. And they play OU this year. In Norman. :whip:

On the bright side - it can't be any worse than the beatdown they suffered in Austin last year. Ouch. And I'm interested to see if their new coach can improve them any.

 

[Mavs Man]

Yes you are excused from the norm ...... most of the big trash talkers have not posted in thgis forum since Dallas season ended ....'

Of course, I also have a bag on my head.

 

[peplaw06]

Speaking of college football pushovers, I'm a UT-Austin grad, but also a North Texas grad. And they play OU this year. In Norman. :whip:

On the bright side - it can't be any worse than the beatdown they suffered in Austin last year. Ouch. And I'm interested to see if their new coach can improve them any.

I got to see that UT-UNT game last season. UNT played better than I thought they would. I was pretty impressed. I think Dodge can bring some pretty exciting football to UNT to say the least. He can't get his son to commit to him (UT strikes again), but he's not gonna be shy. They'll be like Texas Tech east.

 

[peplaw06]

i love taking shots at the lame a** mavs, its great.

Good for you. Even if it's off topic. It's nice when you can deflect the issue to the "lame *** mavs." Too bad I don't fall for it.

And i said i didnt think either of the "cheap shots" are legitimate.

I'd be willing to give Bowen the benefit of the doubt if:
1) it didn't happen all the time, and a pretty substantial amount of players didn't complain about him... (You know the old walks like a duck, talks like a duck thing); or
2) he was an important player on my favorite team.

These all can't be coincidences.

and im also responding to you saying ginobili doesnt have balls since you called him Gina, which you started out of the blue.

Out of the blue?? Your nickname for him is Gino. You set yourself up for that one. Would you rather I change it to Gyno?

 

[Mavs Man]

I got to see that UT-UNT game last season. UNT played better than I thought they would. I was pretty impressed. I think Dodge can bring some pretty exciting football to UNT to say the least. He can't get his son to commit to him (UT strikes again), but he's not gonna be shy. They'll be like Texas Tech east.

It doesn't surprise me that Dodge's son isn't going to UNT - if he has a chance to QB at Texas he should take it.

The North Texas offense should be improved enough to compete in the Sun Belt. With a couple of good recruiting years they could be Tech east.

 

[SA_Gunslinger]

Of course, I also have a bag on my head.

i just noticed that.

hilarious, dude! :laugh2:


on topic....crazy series. i'll leave it at that.

 

[Mavs Man]

i just noticed that.

hilarious, dude! :laugh2:

Good grief! And I put a lot of hard work into it.

Hopefully one day I can put a trophy in his other hand.

 

[SA_Gunslinger]

Hopefully one day I can put a trophy in his other hand.

if they don't blow up the team, they still have a good opportunity.

 

[Mavs Man]

if they don't blow up the team, they still have a good opportunity.

I have faith in Donnie Nelson. But Cuban kind of scares me.

More than anything I think GS was a bad matchup for us. They played us at the best possible time (they were hot, we were in a mini slump). Avery didn't adjust until game four. Dirk was complacent. Except for Howard, Harris and Stackhouse, no one stepped up.

With Harris, Howard and Diop in the lineup we can play defense. But the GS series showed we really need a PG who can dish and drive. Nash would have been nice, but he was/is deficient on defense and we already have Dirk (who is actually adequate) and Jason Terry. Terry is never going to be that. Harris so far hasn't shown it consistently enough (he is only 24, though).

Terry and Damp are basically untradeable, but Cuban/Nelson have worked greater magic in the past. I agree with a local Dallas writer - move Diop and Harris to the starting five, drop Damp and Terry to the bench, and try our best to acquire a true 2 guard who can be a scorer.

The best plan would be to obtain a true point guard, I ask who? Billips will be a free agent this summer, but why would he leave Detroit unless they go through a similar collapse in the next few rounds? Kidd is getting older and lately his stock has risen. Nash, Derron Williams, Chris Paul, etc. are untouchable without dealing Dirk or Howard (if even that).

This team needs a guy with some fire. Howard and Dirk are great players, but too nice. David Robinson was a great player with a nice demeanor and no ring until they drafted a guy who had that fire (Duncan) and he left with two rings. They aren't getting a number one pick anytime soon, and I don't think they need that drastic change. But they need their Michael Irvin to light a fire under their butts (as a player) and push them past themselves. I thought after the Spurs and Suns series last year that they had found it. I don't know where it went.

 

[MC KAos]

i fully expect the mavs to have another sick regular season next year, again taking out their postseason frustration on crappy teams and good teams in regular season rotations. The unpredictable part is gonna be their next post season. Its gonna be interesting to see how they rebound next year in the playoffs.

 

[Mavs Man]

^^^

Man, I hope not. I'd much rather them have to push themselves at the end of the year and fly under the radar. I don't think I can go through more of this in next year's playoffs (they're the #1 seed again but look what happened last year!).

But a lot of that depends on 1) what (if any) changes the Mavs make to their roster and 2) what changes the Suns make to their roster. The Suns potentially have three first round picks in the draft - and (if they're knocked out by the Spurs again) what if they get desperate (Nash is 33) and make a blockbuster trade with Stoudamire for KG or Jermaine O'Neal? Why not? - they would upgrade their defense, add a more viable counter to Tim Duncan, and they aren't much older than Stoudamire w/o the knee history.

And then, as you've said, the Spurs have four picks in the draft.

 

[SA_Gunslinger]

The Real Mavs Man;1499637And then, as you've said, the Spurs have four picks in the draft.

yea...the spurs will probably lose horry, and maybe a couple other vets (barry?)...hopefully they can get at least one solid young contributor out of these picks. any more than that is gravy.

spurs have a history of drafting well though.