Strategy to acquire QB, DE and CB

[waldoputty]

Dak can run regardless of speed, besides we are not asking him to be a RB. As far as QB play goes, yeah Taylor has had more time in the NFL to prove himself, but the point is moot because if he repeats his numbers, Bills won't let him go.

Yes, if they make him an exclusive franchise tag.
Last 2 years, there was 1 exclusive - Von Miller.
Dont know how far Buffalo will push the envelope.

 

[robjay04]

if you wait till 2018, possible free agent qbs are stafford, bortles, carr, bridgewater...
most would have received extension.

buffalo is one team that decided to push the envelope with potential franchise QB.

I just don't think we will go the veteran route with Romo on the roster. If Romo retires in two years, I absolutely could see us making a push for someone like Stafford.

The most likely scenario is we will develop Prescott until Romo retires in 2-3 years and then make our decision to pursue a veteran or roll with Prescott. The only way that changes is if Romo unexpectedly retires after this year or we crap the bed and end up with a top pick again after any of the next two years.

 

[waldoputty]

I just don't think we will go the veteran route with Romo on the roster. If Romo retires in two years, I absolutely could see us making a push for someone like Stafford.

The most likely scenario is we will develop Prescott until Romo retires in 2-3 years and then make our decision to pursue a veteran or roll with Prescott. The only way that changes is if Romo unexpectedly retires after this year or we crap the bed and end up with a top pick again after any of the next two years.

i know it is expensive.
look at what eagles and rams just paid for qbs.
and there are no guarantees those qbs play well in nfl, particularly wentz.

if you wait, the other guys may not even become available.
buffalo is pushing its luck here.

if we nail down the young qb, we can focus on improving the D.
the O would be almost unstoppable with the OL, zeke and young QB.
you may have to get a #1 wr in a couple of years for dez but that is it for many years.

 

[RandyOh]

No ty to both QBs and Wilkerson ain't a DE in our scheme. Let's just keep our draft picks and focus on developing instead in of trying to buy other teams players.

 

[Doc50]

The FO has learned its lesson, and is not planning to build the team through free agency.

The cheapest, most durable, and most inspired players are in their first contract.

 

[Sandyf]

Nice to talk some about possible free agents and needs in 2017 but I believe we have seen how Stephen is building the team and seriously doubt it will be with any high priced free agents especially any where we give up draft picks. There are a number of QB candidates that will be available in the draft and wouldn't be surprised to see as many as 8 go in the first round, yep 8. Probably the current strength of the draft before we actually see any of the college guys hit the turf. RB is probably the next strongest.

I do agree that QB will be a hot topic next year and wouldn't doubt we draft one. Will hold onto my reservations on DE until I see how Irving, Mayowa, Tapper, Lawrence and Gregory do. If we hit some gold with a couple or three then DE will be a bit back burner. CB is one that could intrigue though along with safety and depending how well the current group goes will determine how important, i.e. if Claiborne finally shows he is a #6 pick guy and/or Brown is the hidden gem then CB becomes important just not of great importance.

My concern is at WR. Either we have a couple or three show up this year or it could be a top concern going into the draft. We have Dez and Beasley but after that, it is cross your fingers time. One thing is fairly certain, with McClay, Stephen and Jason, the picks in the draft are going to be guys that fit our schemes and not necessary anyone idea of who anyone considers the BPA other than those three. As to free agency, betting it is much more of the same of digging for the guys that will help and not cost an arm and a leg. Almost guarantee it will be the end of the 1st week of free agency before we even attempt to sign a guy and we all know that means none of the considered top free agents.

It is just the reality of the Cowboys these days, more like the Pats and Packers in building and sustaining a team.

 

[waldoputty]

Nice to talk some about possible free agents and needs in 2017 but I believe we have seen how Stephen is building the team and seriously doubt it will be with any high priced free agents especially any where we give up draft picks. There are a number of QB candidates that will be available in the draft and wouldn't be surprised to see as many as 8 go in the first round, yep 8. Probably the current strength of the draft before we actually see any of the college guys hit the turf. RB is probably the next strongest.

I do agree that QB will be a hot topic next year and wouldn't doubt we draft one. Will hold onto my reservations on DE until I see how Irving, Mayowa, Tapper, Lawrence and Gregory do. If we hit some gold with a couple or three then DE will be a bit back burner. CB is one that could intrigue though along with safety and depending how well the current group goes will determine how important, i.e. if Claiborne finally shows he is a #6 pick guy and/or Brown is the hidden gem then CB becomes important just not of great importance.

My concern is at WR. Either we have a couple or three show up this year or it could be a top concern going into the draft. We have Dez and Beasley but after that, it is cross your fingers time. One thing is fairly certain, with McClay, Stephen and Jason, the picks in the draft are going to be guys that fit our schemes and not necessary anyone idea of who anyone considers the BPA other than those three. As to free agency, betting it is much more of the same of digging for the guys that will help and not cost an arm and a leg. Almost guarantee it will be the end of the 1st week of free agency before we even attempt to sign a guy and we all know that means none of the considered top free agents.

It is just the reality of the Cowboys these days, more like the Pats and Packers in building and sustaining a team.

I agree that the FO has learned its lessons in building the foundation of the team.
But the foundation is almost done and need a couple of cherries to top it off.
that would be the QB and the DE if the young guys do not pan out.

QB is one position I would definitely try to buy if it is available.
We tried to do it with Hardy in 2015 after 12-4 in 2014, and I suspect the FO would do it again if it felt the player can take us to the top.
A franchise QB can be that player as the offense would be nearly unstoppable combined with our OL, Zeke, Dez.

There may be 5-8 QBs in the 1st round next year, but those are no guarantees.
A ready-made probowl QB, if really available, would be worth 2 1st round picks or more IMO.
It would be sad to waste 1-2 years of the OL and Zeke's prime trying to find a QB.

 

[KingintheNorth]

If the Bills franchise tag him, I would still go for it even if it costs us 2 1st and a lot of $.

May be the worst Zone post ever. Bravo.

 

[robjay04]

i know it is expensive.
look at what eagles and rams just paid for qbs.
and there are no guarantees those qbs play well in nfl, particularly wentz.

if you wait, the other guys may not even become available.
buffalo is pushing its luck here.

if we nail down the young qb, we can focus on improving the D.
the O would be almost unstoppable with the OL, zeke and young QB.
you may have to get a #1 wr in a couple of years for dez but that is it for many years.

Truthfully, I believe I would rather trade a years of draft picks for our own young qb instead of giving an insane contract and possibly giving up picks for a qb that the Patriots or Bills did not feel was good enough to invest in.

 

[RandyOh]

Nice to talk some about possible free agents and needs in 2017 but I believe we have seen how Stephen is building the team and seriously doubt it will be with any high priced free agents especially any where we give up draft picks. There are a number of QB candidates that will be available in the draft and wouldn't be surprised to see as many as 8 go in the first round, yep 8. Probably the current strength of the draft before we actually see any of the college guys hit the turf. RB is probably the next strongest.

I do agree that QB will be a hot topic next year and wouldn't doubt we draft one. Will hold onto my reservations on DE until I see how Irving, Mayowa, Tapper, Lawrence and Gregory do. If we hit some gold with a couple or three then DE will be a bit back burner. CB is one that could intrigue though along with safety and depending how well the current group goes will determine how important, i.e. if Claiborne finally shows he is a #6 pick guy and/or Brown is the hidden gem then CB becomes important just not of great importance.

My concern is at WR. Either we have a couple or three show up this year or it could be a top concern going into the draft. We have Dez and Beasley but after that, it is cross your fingers time. One thing is fairly certain, with McClay, Stephen and Jason, the picks in the draft are going to be guys that fit our schemes and not necessary anyone idea of who anyone considers the BPA other than those three. As to free agency, betting it is much more of the same of digging for the guys that will help and not cost an arm and a leg. Almost guarantee it will be the end of the 1st week of free agency before we even attempt to sign a guy and we all know that means none of the considered top free agents.

It is just the reality of the Cowboys these days, more like the Pats and Packers in building and sustaining a team.

8 QBs in the 1st? No way. I see possibly 3. 8 may be off the board by the end of day 2 tho

The strength of this draft is RB and CB. Possibly safety as well.

 

[waldoputty]

Truthfully, I believe I would rather trade a years of draft picks for our own young qb instead of giving an insane contract and possibly giving up picks for a qb that the Patriots or Bills did not feel was good enough to invest in.

i know it is a huge amount to give up for taylor who could be a probowl qb for 2 consecutive years by 2017.
the problem with drafting a qb is we just do not know how well he will do in nfl.
it takes 1-2 years of OL/Zeke/Dez primes to find out.

if you take the shot, you will have a 3 year window at which point you need another WR.
#1 WRs can be had in the draft.

garappollo would be cheaper and less proven but likely not cost a single #1 round pick.
so you would most likely be able to add other pieces at the same time.

 

[dogunwo]

It is incredibly early to call DE a need. That's based on this year, not next. CB is a need because of the contracts. They have been a lot of resources put into DE, and we need to see it out before declaring it a 2017 need.

 

[waldoputty]

It is incredibly early to call DE a need. That's based on this year, not next. CB is a need because of the contracts. They have been a lot of resources put into DE, and we need to see it out before declaring it a 2017 need.

If DE is not a need, then our needs would be QB, CB, SS and #2WR for a team with absolutely no holes and up to 8 probowlers in the offense.
In that case, I would definitely bet the farm without a 2nd thought for the QB - 2 #1s, $$$ etc.

CB would be needed somehow - probably a $4M/yr free agent.
SS can be had in round 3 or lower.
a dual threat QB can work with WRs with less talent - even Beasley as #2 and Lucky possibly as #3.

 

[dogunwo]

May be the worst Zone post ever. Bravo.

That was already given out to the guy who claimed Emmitt broke the record in Arizona.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This thread seems premature. It Mo and Carr have great years, Lawrence and Gregory have great years and Dak shows potential are these still needs next offseason?

 

[waldoputty]

This thread seems premature. It Mo and Carr have great years, Lawrence and Gregory have great years and Dak shows potential are these still needs next offseason?

lol, it is premature but there is no cowboys news, though romo is throwing in otas.

hard to believe dak shows much unless romo is injured for the year.
at which point everyone will be freaking out over getting a qb.

if lawrence and gregory have great years, de will be lower priority.
but even then can we trust gregory?
if we can, so much more reason to nail down a franchise qb.

 

[CowboyChris]

May be the worst Zone post ever. Bravo.

i second that

 

[jobberone]

We have our Tyrod Taylor. Would jump off a cliff if they gave 2 number 1's for him.

Where are you on the Big Island? And yes we probably can do better trading up for a QB sometime in the next few years preferably sooner than later.

 

[DandyDon1722]

If Taylor is anything more than a flash in the pan, Buffalo is not going to give up on him.

Yep - if Taylor shows this year he's the real deal the Bills are an immediate playoff threat. They have a lot of talent on that team that has been waiting for a QB.

No way any team who has a potential franchise guy is ever going to give them up for picks.

 

[waldoputty]

Yep - if Taylor shows this year he's the real deal the Bills are an immediate playoff threat. They have a lot of talent on that team that has been waiting for a QB.

No way any team who has a potential franchise guy is ever going to give them up for picks.

If Buffalo slaps exclusive franchise on, then we are done.
The argument is if they slap nonexclusive franchise on.
Do we go for it and lose 2 1st round picks and $20m/year or risk losing 1-2 years of OL/Dez/Zeke's primes?