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I would argue that it starts with this team allowing more sacks in the last 3 games than it had at any other point of the season.
Dak holds onto the ball too long last 3 games. Incomplete passes are far better than negative plays.

If we stop shooting ourselves in the foot imagine how many points we could score.
 

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Great stuff as always Bob. I feel like penalties are all subjective. Like they say you can call holding on every play. And I'd say some of the ones our offense has had called have been questionable. Especially when I see our defensive line get held all the time and never get a call
 

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Dak holds onto the ball too long last 3 games. Incomplete passes are far better than negative plays.

If we stop shooting ourselves in the foot imagine how many points we could score.
It sure looks to me like the defenses have done a great job of containing him in the pocket recently. There are a lot of plays where he's holding the ball but there's no exit to the left or right. And it's a lot harder to throw the ball away safely when you're trapped in the pocket. When he can escape, he doesn't generally hang onto it.
 

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Dak holds onto the ball too long last 3 games. Incomplete passes are far better than negative plays.

If we stop shooting ourselves in the foot imagine how many points we could score.

Well, to be fair, it occurs to me that we have played some particularly strong defenses lately also. NY played crazy good defense, and TB is also.
 

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Dak holds onto the ball too long last 3 games. Incomplete passes are far better than negative plays.

If we stop shooting ourselves in the foot imagine how many points we could score.

Also, looking at those videos, you can see how deep alot of those pass plays are designed. Beasley also seems open a vast majority of the time.
 

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I understand chastising fans. You are a twitter frequenter after all.

I understand offensive penalties and their effect on drives. It is undeniable.

Nonetheless, Daks inability to complete a high percentage of passes in the RZ is a huge limiting factor as well. Dak has only 1 RZ interception and his rating is still mediocre. He doesn't throw a high percentage nor does he score often through the air down there.

We run the ball in or we are unlikely to score.

As for Romo, he completes a higher percentage in the RZ, similarly doesn't turn it over and scores a heck of a lot more.

I also do not agree on the characterization of those sacks. Against the Vikings and Giants Dak was running from ghosts and into containment after 4 seconds of pass protection. All sacks are not created equal.

It stands to reason that Romo's ability to diagnose and execute reading formation and coverages would have him get the ball out quickly or at least quickly relative to what PRescott has been doing the past month.

It's not certain and it's a moot point after Dak's performance this past week but LCD fan stupidity doesn't mean there is not a well reasoned basis for Romo.
 

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Dak holds onto the ball too long last 3 games. Incomplete passes are far better than negative plays.

If we stop shooting ourselves in the foot imagine how many points we could score.

I tentatively agree about Dak holding onto the ball too long, but I need evidence before I go all in.

Maybe @percyhoward has some.
 

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I understand chastising fans. You are a twitter frequenter after all.

I understand offensive penalties and their effect on drives. It is undeniable.

Nonetheless, Daks inability to complete a high percentage of passes in the RZ is a huge limiting factor as well. Dak has only 1 RZ interception and his rating is still mediocre. He doesn't throw a high percentage nor does he score often through the air down there.

We run the ball in or we are unlikely to score.

As for Romo, he completes a higher percentage in the RZ, similarly doesn't turn it over and scores a heck of a lot more.

I also do not agree on the characterization of those sacks. Against the Vikings and Giants Dak was running from ghosts and into containment after 4 seconds of pass protection. All sacks are not created equal.

It stands to reason that Romo's ability to diagnose and execute reading formation and coverages would have him get the ball out quickly or at least quickly relative to what PRescott has been doing the past month.

It's not certain and it's a moot point after Dak's performance this past week but LCD fan stupidity doesn't mean there is not a well reasoned basis for Romo.

Although Dak is a strong runner, his movement in the pocket doesn't seem to be at Romo's level yet. Dak seems to walk into sacks.
 

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"He hasn't played well and healthy in nearly 2 years"

This is the key statement regarding Romo. Like they say, everyone seems better once they are done playing, just like retired coaches. As the retirement years go by, they become a better head coach. Case in point, Jon Gruden.
 

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I loved this line: "I suppose you are supposed to apologize for taking these because there are no car chases or explosions. Just repeatable and sustainable offense."

Dak isn't perfect but he's been one of the best quarterbacks in the league this year. It's incredible that he's doing it as a rookie.

Sturm talks about how holding penalties can come from offensive linemen losing battles. There's that but there's also the idea of having played some really good defenses the past few weeks. I also wonder about how often we only keep our five linemen in to pass block compares to the league. That combined with going against some good, aggressive defenses, could be part of the issue.

It was very interesting to see Williams playing the "blocking TE" spot at some key times.
 

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Dak holds onto the ball too long last 3 games. Incomplete passes are far better than negative plays.

If we stop shooting ourselves in the foot imagine how many points we could score.

You know... it can both. Dak holds the ball but he offensive line is also allowing more pressures recently. Tyron got a whipped by Spence a couple times and Free is always a liability.
 

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Although Dak is a strong runner, his movement in the pocket doesn't seem to be at Romo's level yet. Dak seems to walk into sacks.

That's because Romo falls down at any sign of pressure like a sack of potatoes. Dak is very good at climbing the pocket but doesn't have the awareness that Romo does of where ball needs to go when it gets tight.
 

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That's because Romo falls down at any sign of pressure like a sack of potatoes. Dak is very good at climbing the pocket but doesn't have the awareness that Romo does of where ball needs to go when it gets tight.

If that were true, he wouldn't have the injuries he has.
 

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On Zekes 40 yard run, the interior line got such a good push that they blocked the bucs interior DL into their LBs.. Like WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Although Dak is a strong runner, his movement in the pocket doesn't seem to be at Romo's level yet. Dak seems to walk into sacks.
He does take a decent amount of sacks, sacks that might otherwise be an INT. But he's not taking so many sacks that it's bogging down the offense.

For example, he threw a 3 yard pass on 3rd and long vs a sack. You like those 3 yards better? If nothing's down field and he's trapped in the pocket, he has to get rid of the ball or take a sack.
 

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He does take a decent amount of sacks, sacks that might otherwise be an INT. But he's not taking so many sacks that it's bogging down the offense.

For example, he threw a 3 yard pass on 3rd and long vs a sack. You like those 3 yards better? If nothing's down field and he's trapped in the pocket, he has to get rid of the ball or take a sack.

That's what Romo potentially brings to the offense right now that Dak does not--a higher probability of converting long yardage. When the Cowboys get off schedule in terms of down and distance, the drive is usually over.

In fairness, when they get off schedule, it is rarely Dak's fault; it's usually due to some penalty on the offensive line. And the league average converting long yardage isn't good anyway. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Cowboys are above average converting long yardage. I just think it's something Romo has done better recently. For Dak, it's better to take the three yard gain at this point.
 

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That's what Romo potentially brings to the offense right now that Dak does not--a higher probability of converting long yardage. When the Cowboys get off schedule in terms of down and distance, the drive is usually over.

In fairness, when they get off schedule, it is rarely Dak's fault; it's usually due to some penalty on the offensive line. And the league average converting long yardage isn't good anyway. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Cowboys are above average converting long yardage. I just think it's something Romo has done better recently. For Dak, it's better to take the three yard gain at this point.
Still doesn't guarantee you overall success, and that's my point. The reason we're successful is because of the smart decisions Dak makes every game. Smart QB play is the key here. Smart QB play will win you Super Bowls.

You can play smart all game long, then do something stupid to lose the game. That is not smart QBing. We have the smarter QB playing right now and that's why we're 12-2.
 
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